WorldsGreatestForumDad
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pretty childish way of looking at that instead of game balancing. but ok.
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pretty childish way of looking at that instead of game balancing. but ok.
But that's the game. The design of the game has that point of being able to effect the BGS from any mode as it's core. To change that is to change the whole game. You might as well ask FDev to scrap the whole thing and start again.
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WorldsGreatestForumDad
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People left open because of murderhobos. And they are afraid to get "griefed and ganked". For attacking someone else? Like the guy in the video. Which you probably havnt watched because it proves our case in why we are asking for balancing to begin with.
You missed the point of the post. Satire. Your idea of "balance" is rather childish too.
Ninja'd. I was about to post something along the same lines.
But he's right. As I've said, PvP does nothing to affect the BGS. Even NPCs affect the BGS.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Which is why this thread exists for years before I got here.
The games evolved since the kick starter and all that. Now we have player factions to duke it out with. But the balancing is bad. Aks you boys in the fuel rats about the BGS terrorist in colonia. And how hes creating faction wars in multiple systems making people fight against each other. Then get back to me
Way to ignore 80% of what I said. The guy isn't attacking you, but a minor faction that you opt to support. By definition, he is attacking NPCs.
Using some propaganda video to make a point? Laughable. It's plain and simple, any attack on a faction, payer or no, can only be countered through opposing BGS activity. Any activity can be countered in any mode. The only thing you can't do from open is directly blow their ships up. That only has a secondary effect. You can slow your opponents gains, but you can't counteract them.
There are so many instancing reasons that keep Commanders from meeting, that those playing in PG's aren't worth crying about. You could miss most of the Commanders opposing you, just because of a difference in ping.
Each and every player payed the required price to play, your personal gamer ethics can't change that. Each and every player has the right to access the game ad they choose per the design. Three modes, equal access.
Which is why this thread exists for years before I got here.
The games evolved since the kick starter and all that. Now we have player factions to duke it out with. But the balancing is bad. Aks you boys in the fuel rats about the BGS terrorist in colonia. And how hes creating faction wars in multiple systems making people fight against each other. Then get back to me
Are they aware of how the BGS works? Or are they just fighting to fight because of the flags they fly?
Because if it's the former then they're wasting time as PvP does nothing to the BGS.
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WorldsGreatestForumDad
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYXTh4TCVo
WATCH THE VIDEO. "ATTACK YOUR PLAYER FACTION" Comes right out of his mouth.
In the grand scheme of things. Its why powerplay is dead.
I did not ignore what you said.
Which is why this thread exists for years before I got here.
The games evolved since the kick starter and all that. Now we have player factions to duke it out with. But the balancing is bad. Aks you boys in the fuel rats about the BGS terrorist in colonia. And how hes creating faction wars in multiple systems making people fight against each other. Then get back to me
Stop diverting the topic. So you are asking the Devs to scrap the game and completely redesign it. Good luck with that.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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But not equal in risk. GG
And it's not childish to demand something other people paid for be removed to suit yourself?
The Kickstarter backers were happy enough to fork over a couple of million to fund this game, you giving them their money back to get your own way?
Because someone will have to, just like when Offline didn't show - refunds had to be issued over it.
Also, in online games, "balance" is a myth. WOW still has balance issues, EVE does, GW2 does...... you cannot balance a system with this many variables.
And people are variables as well, with varied skill levels, time to play, the reason for playing, goals for playing - all things no Dev team can use to help balance the game.
You keep telling us what YOU want and ignoring what was paid for by others, becuase it is what they wanted - and by buying the game after the fact, you agreed to that design decision.
I'm in the rat chat right now. No one there knows much of anything about this guy, and the Fuel Rats are apolitical, if you were to read about us.Which is why this thread exists for years before I got here.
The games evolved since the kick starter and all that. Now we have player factions to duke it out with. But the balancing is bad. Aks you boys in the fuel rats about the BGS terrorist in colonia. And how hes creating faction wars in multiple systems making people fight against each other. Then get back to me
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Not diverting. Just removing the PVP aspects of solo and private. Everything else stays the same. You can still grind engineers, play with your friends or anything youd like to do thats not player faction related.
And hopefully later on Powerplay related.
If you guys arent doing any of that to begin with. Then NOTHING CHANGES FOR YOU.
Goes to show how little you know.
Go and read the Kickstarter info and the DDA. (I did link some of it for you)
Frontier has a plan and has stuck to it like barnacles on a hull. Apart from a few tweaks here and there, everything is as listed in the KS/DDA.
Perhaps you should have read more before buying. Like I did.
Caveat emptor
Do you or don't you want to change the game?
If you do then it will not be this game that you bought because it will need a complete redesign. It's that simple. This is the game you bought.
You seem to not understand that that the BGS isn't really PvP since there's no direct player to player interaction. Even NPCs affect the BGS and those aren't players.
Also, you seem to be getting caught up on the whole "Player Faction" term. It doesn't mean that players are part of it, just that it was created BY a player. Despite being a "Player Faction" it is entirely comprised of NPCs which fall under the Environment in PvE, like every other faction in the game.
Most PGs and solo mode don't have any PvP aspects. None.
And you have the habit of equating minor factions with Powerplay factions. Not the same.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Again, hes pvping https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYXTh4TCVo Plain and simple. Hes attacing a player based faction with intent. Just because hes not directly shooting at another player. Does not mean hes not pvping.
Stop.
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