Community Event / Creation Buckyball Racing Club presents The Lion's Back (2 - 10 September 3303)

... did anyone try just flying into the RES at full speed and then simply emergency stopping when they flew through the belt rather than executing a controlled approach (or is that simply what everyone was doing?).

Yes, but unintentionally ;) I ended up a long way from the res site. I don't know whether it is possible to crash out close enough to not have a long sc run that would negate any time saving on a normal approach plus the long fsd recharge.

Mutual hearty back slapping to all contestants and thanks to the organisers. Just below mid table seems to be my natural position after doing a few races now.

The res site and asteroid belt were new types of waypoint for me and I will be interested to see how the higher ranked racers approached them if they posts vids of their runs. I still suspect that I lost most time on the station approaches as usual.
 
On the subject of timings, one thing I wanted to try if I'd had more time ... did anyone try just flying into the RES at full speed and then simply emergency stopping when they flew through the belt rather than executing a controlled approach (or is that simply what everyone was doing?).

Tried that once, and ended up 80km from the marker. Flew back to Elgin for a banana split ;)
 
I'm going to guess that cookiehole is once again embroiled in school. Good man for taking care of priorities, if so. :)

Err, yes yes, that's exactly it, he's not around because school, lots and lots to do and stuff he must have been very busy, I've not seen him for a while either but I'm absolutely sure he is around, ehm...somewhere, yes no doubt, but you all know him-he's very shy, he didn't want to disturb us while we were all focused on the race, no doubt he's very happy, somewhere, right. Safe and sound, safe and sound. Happy, no doubt. [where is it]

(seriously though, he's a nice guy with priorities set straight, so he probably really had study duties preventing him from participating, I'm rather sure he kept an eye on the thread nevertheless ;))

Cmdr Aken B., leader for much of the week, managed to squeeze a bit more performance out of the Bucket of Bolts to break through the 13 minute barrier. However, less than an hour and a half later, Cmdr Bruski returned for yet another attempt in RazorBear and this time managed to pull together an outstanding run to take the lead with a time of 12 minutes and 45 seconds.

Just a friendly reminder that despite its compact size, the Adder's trunk can easily accomodate two large-sized human adults as well as an average-size spacefaring plantigrade. :p

I need to clip the slot on the way in to make the Asp slow down quickly enough, but kept missing - resulting in big clumsy slow-mo overshoots.

Saw you! :D

[video=youtube_share;TNZpOX-yFdA]https://youtu.be/TNZpOX-yFdA[/video]

I also never worked out the best way to approach the asteroid cluster, did anyone do any timings? I ended up settling on a corkscrew approach with 4-5 seconds on the countdown, but my on my 'best' approaches my speed tended to drop into the blue zone just at the split second that the cluster moved off the screen. :(

Eh, I went for a 2-3 seconds corkscrew, blue zone was "tricky" at times:

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On a completely unrelated note: you were right Raiko!

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Woohoo!!

On the subject of timings, one thing I wanted to try if I'd had more time ... did anyone try just flying into the RES at full speed and then simply emergency stopping when they flew through the belt rather than executing a controlled approach (or is that simply what everyone was doing?).

The thought never crossed my admittedly very narrow mind. Doing a bit of numbers on it though, if I recall correctly the FSD spooling after an emergency stop takes about 45 seconds, while on my best approaches I remained in normal space around 35 seconds. If a full faceplanting in the RES allowed for gaining more than those 10 seconds of difference, it could have been a smart move.

Full race videos in the making, coming soon.

Incredibly fun race Drakhyr! Thank you!
 
Although I ended up last in the Regulation Adder class I had a lot of fun, thanks very much to Drakhyr for organising it!

I suppose I should try engineering a non-regulation ship for speed / jump distance for future races next :)
 
Although I ended up last in the Regulation Adder class I had a lot of fun, thanks very much to Drakhyr for organising it!

I suppose I should try engineering a non-regulation ship for speed / jump distance for future races next :)

Spent the morning at a "Distribution centre" in a Famine system scanning FSD wakes - I now have 6 Datamined Wake Exceptions! Felicity Farseer here I come!
 
Videos!

Adder run:

[video=youtube_share;CEPw93nYWUY]https://youtu.be/CEPw93nYWUY[/video]



Diamondback Explorer run:

[video=youtube_share;etPJEApcaiI]https://youtu.be/etPJEApcaiI[/video]
 
You know, I have the suspicion that certain people couldn't bear sitting behind me and did just enough to be placed just ahead of me. The leaderboard certainly look that way. (Not that I expected any different.) (I blame that 'thrown gauntlet' remark.)

[…]Fly fast commanders and remember, when the Thargoids strike, you don't have to outrun them, you only have to outrun the other commanders in your instance!
Thargoids? I think I still got that ship they once gifted me gathering dust somewhere (probably Eden station which means it's gone forever). In any case, my Eagle should be able to outrun them even without relying on 'better you than me' tactics, should they ever show up again.

[...]and I'm looking forward to seeing all the new faces come back again!
Sorry, but this was a one-time visit only. (Quite literally, given that I flew the course exactly once.) There won't be any further participation from me in the foreseeable future, I'm afraid.

On the subject of timings, one thing I wanted to try if I'd had more time ... did anyone try just flying into the RES at full speed and then simply emergency stopping when they flew through the belt rather than executing a controlled approach (or is that simply what everyone was doing?).
It certainly is possible – in theory. The issue of waiting for the extended cooldown aside (which might still be acceptable if it saves enough on the approach), you have to be very good at aiming for that resource site. Especially if you want to come in at high speed (which is what this is all about). I've attempted this from time to time and I find it impossible to get closer than around 20km in a reliable fashion (at only moderate overspeeding I might add). Perhaps somebody else's mileage might vary, but I certainly don't have enough control over that analogue stick for such wizardry.
 
You even got my wife to laugh at that. Poor Cookiehole, he deserves better, though you might have my thanks. ;) :p

I probably had a bad piece of anecdotal evidence from my early runs, mistaking a bad entry angle for a thicker ring. On the calculations, you're ultimately right: we lack density info. It might be possible to extract it from planet data, but not sure it's worth the effort. :)
Also, as I found, you cen get the beacon spawning from 3-8 km away from you even with a good perpendicular entry, and if you're racing, you won't know how thick the ring is (probably) since by the time you're exiting, you have the next system selected, not the beacon.

Poor asteroid clusters, nobody loves them :) I had to clear my filters in order to see them again lol.
And I just feel dumb, since I've never used those filters. :p
I mean... I love asteroid clusters!

At the top of the board the struggle has continued. Cmdr Bruski continued his march to improve his time yet again (though how The Pakistani Ambassador is still holding together after all the punishment she's taken, we'll never know), managing to sneak past Cmdr Jak, just.
Oh, she's broken into pieces many times, but Elgin has some very good repairmen, although I heard them cursing my name yesterday.

Cmdr Aken B., leader for much of the week, managed to squeeze a bit more performance out of the Bucket of Bolts to break through the 13 minute barrier. However, less than an hour and a half later, Cmdr Bruski returned for yet another attempt in RazorBear and this time managed to pull together an outstanding run to take the lead with a time of 12 minutes and 45 seconds.

That is what happens to people who give their ships insulting names. Aken's poor DBX. :p


I also never worked out the best way to approach the asteroid cluster, did anyone do any timings? I ended up settling on a corkscrew approach with 4-5 seconds on the countdown, but my on my 'best' approaches my speed tended to drop into the blue zone just at the split second that the cluster moved off the screen. :(

I ended up doing an hour of testing one night, along with timings from earlier runs. I couldn't find a huge difference between overshoot and corkscrew in, vs corkscrewing all the way, vs corkscrewing starting at 0:03. I generally got faster and faster corkscrews as time went on, and maxed out holding it at 0:02 until about 1 Ls, then easing off to 0:03, otherwise I didn't have enough time to center the target once I dropped to 10Mm.

Here were some timings I got:

ApproachTimeTest Resource
Helix of Death1:22Test
Deselect1:48Adder 23ish
Deselect Small Helix1:32DBX 1330ish
Deselect1:22DBX Crash on final
Fly Past 0:04, Helix In 0:031:13Test 2
Helix In1:15DBX 1245
Deselect1:31DBX 1321
Helix starting at 0:031:10Adder 2207


Next Race - 23-SEP-3303 to 01-OCT-3303:

Buckyball Racing Club presents Fat Tony's Festival of Racing (featuring the Ironbucky Trophy).

Long time Buckyball racing fans and notorious mobsters jovial entrepreneurs Anthony "Fat Tony" Lonnegan and Enoch "Little Nuk" Lonnegan - aka the Lonnegan Brothers - invite you to join them for a week-long festival of Buckyball racing at Brash Orbital in the beautiful Siren System.

Festival events include a traditional short range scramble around nearby stations, a quick lap of the bubble for longer range racers and trips out to the Wasat Cup Rally course in neighbouring Wasat for those who prefer to fly things with eight wheels.

The festival will also feature The Ironbucky Trophy for crazy racers who think they can run all three events back to back without repairs and the return of viewers' favourite The Lonnegan Brothers' Scale of Hotness.

Woohoo! I love the Lonnegan Brothers!

If you fancy some racing before the 23rd, take a look at Jhyrryls post in the BRC thread.
Oh boy, even MORE RACING! Lets see how much I can get down before the new CMDR arrives. :p

On the subject of timings, one thing I wanted to try if I'd had more time ... did anyone try just flying into the RES at full speed and then simply emergency stopping when they flew through the belt rather than executing a controlled approach (or is that simply what everyone was doing?).
I did a couple times. Then It because obvious my skill (or lack thereof) would never be enough to allow me to arrive within 20km of the site, and the optimization was fruitless. Although...where did you stash those cookiebots?

Err, yes yes, that's exactly it, he's not around because school, lots and lots to do and stuff he must have been very busy, I've not seen him for a while either but I'm absolutely sure he is around, ehm...somewhere, yes no doubt, but you all know him-he's very shy, he didn't want to disturb us while we were all focused on the race, no doubt he's very happy, somewhere, right. Safe and sound, safe and sound. Happy, no doubt. [where is it]

Just a friendly reminder that despite its compact size, the Adder's trunk can easily accommodate two large-sized human adults as well as an average-size spacefaring plantigrade. :p
Wait what why?! At least I didn't win BOTH classes! :p You can't threaten me for sharing with you.

Eh, I went for a 2-3 seconds corkscrew, blue zone was "tricky" at times:

I know the feel. Just wait until the very last frame!


Although I ended up last in the Regulation Adder class I had a lot of fun, thanks very much to Drakhyr for organising it!
I suppose I should try engineering a non-regulation ship for speed / jump distance for future races next :)
Glad you had fun, and come on in, the water's fine! Definitely no thargoids here...


Spent the morning at a "Distribution centre" in a Famine system scanning FSD wakes - I now have 6 Datamined Wake Exceptions! Felicity Farseer here I come!
Yep, that's where I'm heading. Again. :p
 
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However, that's now third place, as newcomer Cmdr Edward Robinson has made a fantastic run in Federal Corvette (a name presumably designed to confuse traffic controllers and other shipping into giving him priority, which seems to have worked!), taking second place with a time of nineteen and a half minutes.

Wow, well that was...unexpected. :eek:

Heh, nearly 10 minutes quicker than my allegedly vastly superior Courier.

Great race guys. o7.
 
The Pakistani Ambassador

[video=youtube;hrw5z16zBM0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrw5z16zBM0[/video]

Route:

Chertan, Elgin Hub (1292Ls, Coriolis Starport)Elgin Hub
25.17Col 285 Sector PJ-D b14-0-M
25.82AlgiebaOlivasK1 III - Giant
26.66BD+22 2271-K
26.71Nu Goryni-M2 VA - Main Sequence star
25.96G 121-8-M
25.91DenebolaCluster 2A3
24.00ZosmaNoneA3
22.10Kali-M
8.06RegulusRes Regulus 1B
26.57SAO 99049-G0 V - Main-sequence star (dwarf)
26.50Jupaloku-F
26.53Col 285 Sector PJ-D b14-2-M
26.38Chertan, Elgin HubElgin HubA


Notes:
13-jump route largely require keeping fuel between 1.8-2.4 tons, which was very tricksy. Many aborted runs due to over or under fuelling.

The RazorBear

Recommended volume setting: mute, because I forgot to turn off my mic
[video=youtube;h8a3WZJqNt0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8a3WZJqNt0[/video]

Route:

Chertan, Elgin Hub (1292Ls, Coriolis Starport)
=== 49.37Ly ===> Algieba -- 49.37Ly for 49.37Ly
=== 52.92Ly ===> Regulus -- 52.92Ly for 52.92Ly
=== 49.03Ly ===> Denebola -- 49.03Ly for 49.03Ly
=== 24.00Ly ===> Zosma -- 24.00Ly for 24.00Ly
--- 54.71Ly ---> Sedi
=== 56.64Ly ===> Chertan, Elgin Hub (1292Ls, Coriolis Starport) -- 111.35Ly for 107.00Ly

Notes:
6 jump route is probably mandatory, and required some precise fuel tank sizing to get the 4A Distro and 4A Thrusters onboard, which was important for speed docking and the ring passage.
https://eddp.co/u/RusnwRvY

Pre-plotting route out of asteroid cluster allows targeting before drive has even finished spooling down.

For Olivas, did standard approach with gravity breaking from planet.
For Regulus Cluster, did dash from sun, tight spiral in, followed by perpendicular drop.
For Asteroid cluster, travelled away from sun for 50 Ls, then straight at cluster until 0:03, then tight spiral in at 0:02-0:03, with a tight drop window.
For Zosma, did Zosma.
For elgin, did standard approach, with gravity braking from planet.
 
I'm sure this is blindingly obvious to everyone but me up until a couple of days ago but ...

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...per-account)?p=5903994&viewfull=1#post5903994

Yeah, I figured this out recently as well, and currently my module storade is filled with spare FSDs, Thrusters, Prismatic SHields, and the like.

I know it's a server limitation or something, but I would pay dearly for extended storage of engineering modules, data, materials... well... everything. :p
 
I also never worked out the best way to approach the asteroid cluster, did anyone do any timings? I ended up settling on a corkscrew approach with 4-5 seconds on the countdown, but my on my 'best' approaches my speed tended to drop into the blue zone just at the split second that the cluster moved off the screen. :(

Thanks to those overshoots, I'd have probably just been better off doing a straight 6-second approach to the asteroid cluster.
That was the only approach were I had really no propper concept until the end. Tried a few different things, but none was really convincing.
Mostly I went with the spiral, but well...

I mean, of course I'm slow compared to the more experiences racers here, but for the other approaches I at least got an idea how it should work and was simply struggling to hit the small frame between fast and too fast (and close enough to gravity break rapidly and too close).

Next Race - 23-SEP-3303 to 01-OCT-3303:
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I'll make sure to drop by, but sadly I'm on a conference half of that time. So my involvement will be limited.

Anyway, thanks a lot again Drakhyr for your effort here. I had a lot of fun.
 
Yeah, I figured this out recently as well, and currently my module storade is filled with spare FSDs, Thrusters, Prismatic SHields, and the like.

I know it's a server limitation or something, but I would pay dearly for extended storage of engineering modules, data, materials... well... everything. :p

I have to parse through my modules at least once every two weeks 'cause I run out of inventory space. I've already started to stored modules in 'storage crafts'. That works pretty well for smaller modules. But its sadly not realy feasible for the larger ones, like that 8A shield for the cutter (that I use maybe once a month).
And lets not talk about data and materials. I think they are at 100% again, like most of the time.
Lets just be grateful that engineering comodites are just a rudimentary relict.
 
You even got my wife to laugh at that. Poor Cookiehole, he deserves better, though you might have my thanks. ;) :p

I might accept your thanks (I'll even let you choose if you prefer to be Vincent or Jules in the "cookie-cam" gif :p)

That is what happens to people who give their ships insulting names. Aken's poor DBX. :p

Oh no, that's not the problem. The capital mistake I admit to have made, is not renaming it in Flaming Bucket Of Bolts before race start.

Wait what why?! At least I didn't win BOTH classes! :p You can't threaten me for sharing with you.

But-but, that's just the reason why I didn't threat you!

"Friendly reminder"
.

:D
 
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I'm sure this is blindingly obvious to everyone but me up until a couple of days ago but ...

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...per-account)?p=5903994&viewfull=1#post5903994

I recently sold off 8 or 9 not-quite-good-enough Class 3 FSD's., all over 45%, the leftovers after keeping the top 5 (one for Joyeuse, one for Durandal, one for Cortana, and two spares for future projects. The quest for a better drive continues. I've lost count of rolls, I'm well over 100 just on Class 3's now.
 
I recently sold off 8 or 9 not-quite-good-enough Class 3 FSD's., all over 45%, the leftovers after keeping the top 5 (one for Joyeuse, one for Durandal, one for Cortana, and two spares for future projects. The quest for a better drive continues. I've lost count of rolls, I'm well over 100 just on Class 3's now.

This sounds like me with Class 5s. I currently swap a bunch (5?) of drives between the RazorBear (DBX), Sugar Glider (AspX), Ahklut (Orca), Pink Polar Bear (Python), and Polar Maul (iClipper). Currently farming mats for another 30-40 rolls. Interesting how ship preferences can cluster around drive sizes.
 
Well, that's it for me. I'm off.
I'll send a postcard.
Have fun :)

You were only 38,000ly away when I checked though. So you really should make it back for my race at the end of the month - we don't fly slow around here. ;)

Joking aside - I hope you do join in again when your main account cmdr is eventually back in the bubble, your debut run was awesome. :D

Are you flying inwards or outwards? Or circumnavigating? Exploring in an (i)Eagle is a class act. Fly safe cmdr o7
 
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