Seconded.
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2.4 Ships no longer drop out in between binary stars
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Seconded.
Yeah, if anything exploration needs more scenarios like "just dropped between two binaries". After all it never instagibbed me, just motivated some sudden evasive maneuvers and maybe left me with a bit of heat damage if I was too slow.
What would Star Trek have been without the occasional negative space wedgie?
What would Star Trek have been without the occasional negative space wedgie?
If we want to be pedantic we shouldn't even be flying our ships considering self driving cars are a reality ATM.
Next thing somebody asks for the skimmer rain to continue because it adds some thrill and danger to the game. I think I am starting to understand why some bugs are awfully persistent in this game
Skimmer rain is so different to this though.
It was originally a Prince cover tune...
Been melted twice by Death Suns, both in the first three months of my playing time (Dec 2014 and onwards).
Now, at least we get warnings about star types we jump to. White dwarves are more of a threat now, and I expect the other Death Suns to get buffed..
But, if you guys want more risk, try driving down the left lanes of any street in the US. Fair is fair.
The throttle works correctly - you can throttle to zero during the jump if you want.
And I've very much enjoyed the handful of occasions where I've had a roasting from a trio of stars... That really shouldn't be taken away.
Here, here, well said. Repped by me.
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I'm of two minds about this.
One one hand, yeah, it's a shame to remove one of the few elements of environmental danger present in the game.
On the other hand, it always felt glitchy and wrong to come out of hyperspace flying through a star, or even ending up inside one and then having to fly out.
I assume the change was made to avoid that bug / glitch. And I can't fault that.
But it'd be even cooler if we could fix the bug/glitch of going through stars while still having the danger of crashing into the exclusion zone of stars, or just ending up between them in a hot situation.
I know FD has tried to fix it at least once already, without success (there was a patch claiming that if we would intersect a star on our way in we'd end up landing in front of that star instead, but it doesn't seem to have worked).
One one hand, yeah, it's a shame to remove one of the few elements of environmental danger present in the game.
On the other hand, it always felt glitchy and wrong to come out of hyperspace flying through a star, or even ending up inside one and then having to fly out.
I assume the change was made to avoid that bug / glitch. And I can't fault that.
But it'd be even cooler if we could fix the bug/glitch of going through stars while still having the danger of crashing into the exclusion zone of stars, or just ending up between them in a hot situation.
I know FD has tried to fix it at least once already, without success (there was a patch claiming that if we would intersect a star on our way in we'd end up landing in front of that star instead, but it doesn't seem to have worked).
+1, absolutely spot on. I dont care about losing ly/hr, whats thecpoint of going faster if there is no risk, challenge or any kind of gameplay? If I want pretty pictures I check Space Engine or the NASA database...
However, the binary was daft as it was random. Now you jump out at the side of the star you came from. Which is good. Next-up: add danger, both 'natural' and alien.
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Hmm not liking this choice of frontiers one little bit. Si little risk as an explorer, but dropping into a binary or even a trinary with number 4 and 5 blocking yer chosen path...those are much needed but clench moments. Never needed heat sinks before, now they even more pointless...shame ^
As a game mechanic with some thought for game play, allowing for and adding risk to the process of deep space exploration is better than the vanilla safe, slow and boring experiance we are getting.
My complaint is the dumbing down of this game and the taking away of any risk and excitment that once existed (even if that risk, is arguably a glitch) Fix by all means, but please replace it with something that makes the experiance of space travel something to plan, plot, respect and require some degree of experiance to execute.
If we are jumping into an unexplored system with no mapping information... how are we supposed to know what is in close orbit to the parent star? Looking at the system from a distance will show you how that system looked not how it will look once you are local. You could spend several days observing the parent star from a distance and any its any visible binary partners, use a computer to project forward their orbital position by the distance/time needed before jump... That would take days and FSD jumps take 5 seconds to execute
all this beeswax aside... The game needs risk to be fun. Some risk just got removed. Ergo > less fun.
I always found it a bit silly when I'd appear flying through a star and emerge on the other side completely unscathed next to the main star. There would have been no way to remove that possibility while still allowing people to appear in the middle of a binary/trinary.
Agreed 1000%. The last thing exploration needs is to be more safe and less exciting, but that's all this change serves to do. Frontier has not commented on it yet so we have no idea if this change for 2.4 is a bug or a feature, but at this point it's almost certainly going live on the 26th and that makes me terribly sad.
"Traveling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy! Without precise calculations we could fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?"
Imagine any other game that threatens to kill you right after coming out of a loading screen, due to no fault of your own and without giving you any sort of heads up.
I certainly can see why they want to change this.
I do also understand that some feel it would take away some of the thrill when travelling in ED, fair 'nuff.
But i feel there have to be better ways to achieve that, ways less arbitrary.
When sheer coincidence, and a brief moment of lack of concentration can cost a player weeks or months of gameplay and progression, i don't think that's good.
Challenge your players, yes, don't backstab them.
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I can't agree with that, sorry. Yes the game needs risky gameplay elements - thats what combat and 90% of the board missions are for.
But also some relaxing gameplay mechanics (with a paiment) are needed some times and here are mining and exploring the perfect mechanics to do that.
Also it's not like jumping between two stars in a binary system whats the problem. It's that sometimes you just jump into a star directly or into a boostzone of a white dwarf\ neutron star... That, by definition, has no right to be in a near range of a main sequence star.