Are you still in short pants, another poster has already pointed out the obvious.
General / Off-Topic More than 50 killed in Las Vegas terror attack
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Wanton shooting is illegal in every jurisdiction in this country, Federal, State, and local (if such local laws exist).
Minonian
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Yeah A reserve army. We also have this in the old world, without the madness of the second amendments. Which i think actually was the precursor of the other reserve armies, across the world, and all over nations have better resolutions than this.
We seen how it turned out, and going to see it again, in the states and we also seen all over the world how much freedom your guns bring, the guns america giving to other nations protecting their freedom help em to reach it. At the last time it was Syria. An make no mistake i want to puke because of Assad. But what you lots trying to do, is just not works, and only causing harm.
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It kind of stands to reason, that the more guns in circulation, the more chance that they`ll be used in violent confrontations. It seems perfectly logical to me.
I know its tough, don`t forget your ball.
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The Second Amendment doesn't protect the State militias, it protects the right of the individual.
You stated "Freedom to shoot because guns giving you freedom protecting your freedom". Which is very obviously not the case, since Federal, State, and (possibly) local laws prohibit the use of deadly force unless it is in defense of the self or another person (in most cases... check your local laws for clarity).
Minonian
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Yeah, but this is how your average American think about it as we seen it dosens of times in the forum when we debating about this matters.
And because this is how americans think about it,This is also how the American government dealing with this matters all around the world, although laws saying otherwise.
Edit; Anyway, i find intresting after you lots protecting the freedom given by guns now saying but this is not what the laws saying! take a note. You contradicting to yourself.
And because this is how americans think about it,This is also how the American government dealing with this matters all around the world, although laws saying otherwise.
Edit; Anyway, i find intresting after you lots protecting the freedom given by guns now saying but this is not what the laws saying! take a note. You contradicting to yourself.
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lol - I can keep doing this all day. I love going round and round with you people. You know nothing and are incapable of staying on topic (or you're just intellectually dishonest and willing to say anything to win).
The fact is you haven't offered a single piece of valuable counterpoint during the discussion. It's just a lot of hyperbole and emotion and (my favorite argument from you people) "nuh-uh!". You haven't offered valuable counterpoint because you have none, which frustrates you, so you resort to name calling.
Why should I bother with that?
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I said that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. I didn't say it guaranteed the right to shoot at people.
Minonian
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Is it? but in the meanwhile you saying it's against opression, while the Amendments as you admitted? Does not saying this. Now? Which one of this true? because both of it can't be!
The whole thing what you lots using to protect your not god but law given rights to bear arms and shoot at even a hurricane? Is a huge contradiction.
And besides? take a note, about something.
Namely? This kind of peoples demanding the louder to have firearms and also they are the last persons in the world to whom anyone in his sane mind can't entrust such powers.
"the best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter"
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We`re still waiting for a valid reason that you live in such fear of your elected government that you feel the need to be armed to the teeth to protect yourself from this imaginary threat. As previously outlined you have already stated that the size of you gun should take precedence over justice and fairness. You seem to share the same view as the British, your old colonial masters, in contempt for such niceties, with equal contempt for those in a weaker position than you. I imagine that your founding fathers would find your mentality the same as that of the oppressor.
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lol -you crack me up, man.
Sure it says it - A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pol_Pot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Chávez
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolás_Maduro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-un
Shall I go on?
The fact that you don't fear tyranny and oppression by your own government is saddening.
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Minonian
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Now you are just explaining your explanations.
I think we done, for the simple reason to continue this debate i must go to personal, because there are no any reasoning left just attempts to explain the unexplainable, and we going in circles.I don't need this, and neither the others.
@ Moonax i don't like you but right now the smart thing to do to leave him where is without anyone to argue with.
Edit; besides by placing things into historical context as Trinity pointed out this means an invading army, and the freedom of America as a sovereign state probably from the British empire, they was the reason this law exists, and necessary.
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I quiet liked Fidel, they have vastly superior healthcare for their citizens than the US, that says it all. The list shows how bankrupt your argument is.
What about fairness and justice v your big gun, no argument?
i m with u guys, i m a poor european without the foundalental right to defend myself against treads. You americans, must protect your personnal rights, or you ll become sheeps and unprotected ppl like average europeans.
Are you saying you need a gun in case you run into those guys?
By the way, I think you'll find most of those took power by populism, not force. That came later when guns were somewhat useless. If you were serious about the threat you'd be adding Trump to that list.
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That must have been why throngs of Cuban people were risking deadly waters, floating here on wooden doors and makeshift rafts... because life was so awesome over there.
https://www.rd.com/true-stories/survival/escape-from-cuba-dc-8/
I made my argument - I told you that the United States is free to spend domestically as it sees fit and doesn't owe you explanation or apology for it.
So what about them?
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. Are you being sarcastic? (Actually, I don't think you are being sarcastic. Sorry man...)
I agree - everyone should have the right to possess the means to defend themselves.
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Surely not fully automatic ones?
If yes, then the country is really .
EDIT: ah, semi-automatics only...
A $50 parts kit and a bit of technical know-how and a semi-automatic assault rifle becomes fully automatic in very short order. These kits are freely available in the USA, along with a seemingly infinite supply of medium to heavy calibre assault rifles. The UK learnt it's lesson after the Micheal Ryan episode/Hungerford massacre; and banned ALL semi/fully auto weapons. Following the Dunblane massacre; the UK government without hesitation went further and banned ALL hand-guns. Even the UK Olympic shooting team was disbanded. I am a Firearms Certificate holder in the UK and was directly affected by both bans but now agree with them. WHEN will the US Government wake up and take a lesson from the UK Government and stop the massacres?
Minonian
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Do you honestly think how the second amendment are interpreted and causing is right? Because by looking at how some peoples are understanding and abusing it as an argument to shoot at everything and everyone?
I can't.
Just as you said too many weapons at the wrong hands and the reason of this the kind of the arguments what we seeing in this topic right now. Sorry my man, but i cannot possibly say this is alright.
Here is your average voter.
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