Only if you're white and even then those are dubious claims.
General / Off-Topic More than 50 killed in Las Vegas terror attack
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Only if you're white and even then those are dubious claims.
There are always violent {recums} in every nation. We can't entirely get rid of violence. Those other forms of violence are much, much less lethal though, and we are generally better equipped mentally and physically to deal with them.
You are still pretending that removing guns from the equation doesn't make people safer. It does. Massively so.
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OK... all done now.
Not really-- whether you're white or non-white doesn't change the fact that the U.S. is the wealthiest, most powerful nation on the planet.
When so many are that poor, relatively, in a country with that much wealth, the only way is up. Right? Do you bump into things often? I only ask because you seem to be blind.
Anyway, The Donald tonight announced that it was "wonderful" to meet some victims of a mass shooting. He has the command of English equivalent to a seven year old. Tillerson called him a moron; this is not without basis in reality.
But this is already not the case.
To match the "militia" gear with present day equivalents, I'd want a good assault- or battle rifle, some hand grenades, proper ballistic protection and an RPG-7 / LAW eqivalent light weight rocket launcher.
Oh, and I'd also need a number of similarily equipped mates, one of which carries a light machine gun and another with at least a Stinger for some anti-air protection.
But guess what? A lot of that stuff is such that Uncle Sam wouldn't let me have it even if I was a citizen. Maybe the militia angle is actually . These days there's a standing army and a police force which have taken over the "security of the state" duties.
Exactly that. Self driving trucks are also on the way. Steps are being taken to make sich attacks harder to pull off. Nobody is screaming about how "the right to keep and drive trucks shall not be infringed"
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As I previously posted...
It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service—M-16 rifles and the like—may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right.
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It may be objected that if weapons that are most useful in military service—M-16 rifles and the like—may be banned, then the Second Amendment right is completely detached from the prefatory clause. But as we have said, the conception of the militia at the time of the Second Amendment’s ratification was the body of all citizens capable of military service, who would bring the sorts of lawful weapons that they possessed at home to militia duty. It may well be true today that a militia, to be as effective as militias in the 18th century, would require sophisticated arms that are highly unusual in society at large. Indeed, it may be true that no amount of small arms could be useful against modern-day bombers and tanks. But the fact that modern developments have limited the degree of fit between the prefatory clause and the protected right cannot change our interpretation of the right.
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That will be a hard hit for American truckers. Over 3 million (my sister in law used to truck .. it's good money but also very taxing and makes stuff expensive).
Now would be the time to requalify.
Yeah, depends on what metric you use to define "wealthy," I think there are at least some respected economists that would argue that China has a larger GDP than us. Or will, soon (I'll set aside the significant issues with how they got to that point and the house of cards many economists believe it's based on) Whether I agree, I'll give that it is an issue subject to debate.
I don't think there's any argument though that there's any single nation more powerful than the U.S.... if you need a citation for that, it's just not a point worth arguing.
We could debate the freedom, but in upward mobility the US is far from the top indeed.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear tactical nuclear warheads in the 5-10 kiloton yield range, shall not be infringed."
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It seems that my one off-topic retort has thrown the entire thread into turmoil.
Can we please get back on-topic?
Can we please get back on-topic?
Right.. and there are many issues that may seem hard-and-fast in the constitution that just doesn't apply anymore. for instance, the "$20" amount in controversy (which was a heck of a lot back then, but not in any way a bar to the courts today); or limitations on freedom of speech.
things change, things advance, and so do we.
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Even is not, soon this will be the situation China going to leave USA behind after all trumph already done with international trade partnership.
It's pointless some che guevara internet warriors won't stop until every free man on Earth are in chains, and on their knees
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Take no offense! but at the very minute we are started to talk about something negative happened in america.
And take a note, we not bashing america, but what's wrong in america?
Minonian
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If this is your freedom? Than you can keep yourself, but you can be sure as hell we don't want it, and rather find our own.It's pointless some che guevara internet warriors won't stop until every free man on Earth are in chains, and on their knees
You know? there was an internet "ace pilot" whom once tough better than me the newb. I beaten him. Awfully! And after that, he started to talked to this nonsense as freedom... Result? Beaten him some more.
You know why? Because this is not freedom but a nightmare. Especially when some anarchist idiot trying to force it down on your throat.
Edit; Also worth to mention that moron ended up in FBI no fly list what means he is branded as a terrorist. So much about the American guns = freedom religion. So you know what?
Do not try to sell us this we are not buying it.
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Well what is wrong in Europe, Spain is a hot spot, could explode any minute, hopefully it will not, just to mention one.
France, UK, Germany that's 3 more whit issues, when you make the EU a paradise we can talk.
the US got problems just like any other country in the world, here it's just more because we got more of EVERYTHING!
Well, I like that we can keep it, we like it that way
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