Imagine how the outrage from ring wingers if the EU did actually intervene? If anything, the EU footing around these issues way too much. The ruling party in Poland is attempting to take control of the judicial branch while the EU delays taking any meaningful action.
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Imagine how the outrage from ring wingers if the EU did actually intervene? If anything, the EU footing around these issues way too much. The ruling party in Poland is attempting to take control of the judicial branch while the EU delays taking any meaningful action.
I've never been fond of those sorts of political infographics. They sort of work on a personal level to find out where you are on a particular subject, but I find their value becomes less when applied to nations like that.
Take the United States. If we were to add that to your graphic, from the point of view of a middle class man in Seattle it would probably be about half way towards libertarian, and a bit into the purple. Ask a black, poor man living in Arizona and you'll probably find it somewhere near Hungary.
Primary sources.
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You mean like the Basque separatists?
Thank God for the First Amendment, huh?
lol - what am I saying? That whole "Bill of Rights" thing is totally useless.
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That's why I called it "relative". (and it's not applied to nations, but to governments and government policy, which can cange with time - our social democrats lost so much of their previous social-liberal profile during the last years of grand-coalition, it's not even funny)
It's still overly simplified and an average of several policies, so a very liberal government who "just" has the death penalty on the smallest crimes wouldn't end up that badly.
You might think the UK is not that "authoritarian".
Unless you arrive from Germany (standing an hour in line at the EU passport queue, where in Frankfurt, Athens, Paris, Bukarest they just wave you trough) to live there and notice all the CCTV everywhere. Literally everywhere. And you "know it's just for your own good and your protection"
Even the commie dictatorship I was born in wasn't able to surveil you in that detail, since surveillance was still done by people and technical means where limited.
Then there's policies about basic human rights, , same gender marriage, etc. etc.
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Ok but isn't the graphics that you often post about the level of bias / alignment of various media organisations subject to the exact same issue? If I ask a typical Daily Mail reader where they think the Daily Mail sites on the spectrum, many of them probably think it's neutral.
That is a notorious "alt-fact" troll. Described as a cult leader. Like I said above, if you get your "facts" from people like that then I don't think anyone can help you.
Well, normally don't listen to what he says, as I said, don't know the history behind the why's and therefor i asked where to get solid information.
He is listing some key point that can be checked so unless he is lying?
I also read the politico article, and you also said that was wrong information, normally that is considered non bias if you ask liberals?
Oh you make me laugh you do. THE EU DOES NOTHING BUT MEDDLE IN THE BUSINESS OF ITS MEMBERS STATES. ITS STATED AIM IS TO REMOVE THOSE RIGHTS AND IMPOSE ITS OWN UPON EVERY MEMBER STATE TILL THEY ARE A TOTALLY UNIFIED EUROPEAN STATE. I can't believe you believe some of what you write on here.
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This is a pretty good video, Lysan.
If your asking this lot the answer will be from what ever left wing source they believe is right and reinforces what they believe. ANY AND ALL OTHER SOURCES are dismissed as 'troll' this or 'right wing propaganda' that.
What I got so far, as someone who knows nothing regarding spain, this looks like former yugoslavia all over again, anyway it started the same way and ended in a horrible blood bath.
One region wanted independence and the rest is history.
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That's why I called it "relative". (and it's not applied to nations, but to governments and government policy, which can cange with time - our social democrats lost so much of their previous social-liberal profile during the last years of grand-coalition, it's not even funny)
It's still overly simplified and an average of several policies, so a very liberal government who "just" has the death penalty on the smallest crimes wouldn't end up that badly.
You might think the UK is not that "authoritarian".
The relative honesty of a news outlet, it's willingness to omit certain facts and/or overrepresent other facts, and its propensity to try to push an agenda though, are somewhat more linear.
Unless you arrive from Germany (standing an hour in line at the EU passport queue, where in Frankfurt, Athens, Paris, Bukarest they just wave you trough) to live there and notice all the CCTV everywhere. Literally everywhere. And you "know it's just for your own good and your protection"
Even the commie dictatorship I was born in wasn't able to surveil you in that detail, since surveillance was still done by people and technical means where limited.
Then there's policies about basic human rights, , same gender marriage, etc. etc.
If you want to claim the UK is authoritarian you won't get any argument from me. Our insane Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, is proposing to lock people up for 15 years for viewing "terrorist material" online. Seriously, if you think the ISIS theme tune is kind of catchy (seriously ISIS have a soundcloud account)...
[video=youtube;IcjWJ9t2Yag]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcjWJ9t2Yag[/video]
...you might be taking a risk watching it soon (so have fun in prison everyone!), even though it's only music. Not a risk from terrorism though, but a risk from our own government.
BUT!
The UK allowed gay marriage before Germany, and unlike France, the UK allows people to dress as they please (burka ban).
A lot of this depends on who you are and what particular area of society you're looking at.
Not quite the same thing. Politics is more nuanced than left/right, authoritarian/liberal. The infographics on political leanings are not nuanced.
The relative honesty of a news outlet, it's willingness to omit certain facts and/or overrepresent other facts, and its propensity to try to push an agenda though, are somewhat more linear.
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This stuff has been going on since forever. The Spanish Reconquista is one of my favorite historical subjects, and it kicked off with a lot fighting between the Christian Iberian kingdoms in the north of Spain. I don't know about the rest of the north (Leon, Castille, etc.), but these areas apparently have pretty strong ethnic/national identities.
Any conversation about present day economics or law in that region are outside of my realm.
Here's a good place to start...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista
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Yeah gives a fairly god picture of what is going on.
I'm pretty sure you're just all out trolling. I have never commented on Politico.
In post #13 you commented that I got my info from fake news, and I also linked to politico, but if that was a misunderstanding, I apologize.
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