News Frontier Expo: October 7, 2017!

Just to repeat what I just wrote on the expo facebook page, I wanted to extend my thanks and congratulations to everyone at Frontier for hosting their first Expo. I think it was an ENORMOUS success, due in no small part to the unbelievable passion and enthusiasm that everyone has for their work. I didn't meet a single member of the team who wasn't more than willing to stop and talk openly and enthusiastically with their community. As an ambassador for Frontier at the event I was in the privileged position of being able to see some of what goes into setting up an event like this on Friday and it's a massive MASSIVE undertaking - you guys and gals are absolute rock stars! I'd also like to pass on my appreciation for all the volunteers who give up so much of their time to help and to add so much colour and life to these events and to make sure that everything runs as smoothly as possible. I loved every minute of it.

<3

Here's to FX18!
 
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As expected nothing of substance announced. I'll check up with the game again in a year or two from now i guess. For now it shall remain uninstalled.

Was interesting to see the naive people's expectations dashed live. "No space legs!? no atmospheric landing!?" I said in the chat right before that anyone hoping for those was gonna be disappointed and i had a few people saying i would basically have to eat my words later..... IF this stuff is ever coming it's not gonna be before 2 or 3 more years. Assuming ED lives that long.

You could tell the crowd was underwhelmed at the Elite presentation as it was clearly the moment when they realised they'd wasted their money going. The FD people on stage had to basically tell the crowd to cheer.


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As expected nothing of substance announced. I'll check up with the game again in a year or two from now i guess. For now it shall remain uninstalled.

Was interesting to see the naive people's expectations dashed live. "No space legs!? no atmospheric landing!?" I said in the chat right before that anyone hoping for those was gonna be disappointed and i had a few people saying i would basically have to eat my words later..... IF this stuff is ever coming it's not gonna be before 2 or 3 more years. Assuming ED lives that long.

You could tell the crowd was underwhelmed at the Elite presentation as it was clearly the moment when they realised they'd wasted their money going. The FD people on stage had to basically tell the crowd to cheer.

Community asks for core updates. FDev announce core updates.
Cue people to request new content. Game is doomed despite feeling comfortable to offer an entire extra year for free. Hardly looks doomed to me. You did miss "They don't listen to the community" though so i'd give the doom post a 6/10, try harder :)

So yeah, it's not what you want, but it is exactly what a lot of people have been calling for for a very long time, see the several hundred page beige planets thread and many others. Also did you not get all the rather subtle hints and clues that space legs are not coming for a long time, you know like Sandro Sammarco who said: "Just to set the record straight, Space Legs and EVA gameplay, that's way off in the future. That's a goal. I've talked to David and it's always been part of his core vision for what Elite really is, even from way back in the day, it's always been about you're a person in a real futuristic setting, not just a ship." at 2.3 Q&A earlier this year. Very subtle so I understand you may have missed that one. Atmospheric planets I wasn't expecting, as others I spoke to on the day could confirm I was hoping/expecting gas giant "landing", maybe 2019 for that then but yeah, just the amount of stuff involved to get that off the ground is not something that happens quickly.



Also don't judge things you don't know about. Being there in person and watching the stream back now I can say the crowd volume heard on stream is maybe 10-20% of what it was there in person. As a measuring stick when Ed Lewis first comes on stage with the boxing style announcement you couldn't hear his first sentance over the applause, comes through loud and clear on stream due to wizidary and good audio setup but it does mean the sound in the event to the sound on stream doesn't measure at all, I'm sure when some of the other videos and recordings surface we can do a side by side comparison not that I expect you'll care.
 
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You could tell the crowd was underwhelmed at the Elite presentation as it was clearly the moment when they realised they'd wasted their money going. The FD people on stage had to basically tell the crowd to cheer.

I just ... I can't ... words escape me dude. I was stood at the back and the reaction to the announcements was incredible, huge roars of approval at each new feature reveal. Sorry but I think you must have been watching the wrong livestream (or maybe, as Alex has said, they'd cleaned up the audio a bit).
 
I just ... I can't ... words escape me dude. I was stood at the back and the reaction to the announcements was incredible, huge roars of approval at each new feature reveal. Sorry but I think you must have been watching the wrong livestream (or maybe, as Alex has said, they'd cleaned up the audio a bit).

I've watched them back this morning and the audio is very much microphone heavy on the streams and crowd muted/quietened, check out here at just past 9 minutes in. https://go.twitch.tv/videos/180421342
Easy to understand why people think people there were not enthusiastic but far from the truth of the day.

I was 2nd row and I struggled to hear his opening "Hello everyone, absolutely amazing" because of the noise of the crowd. As above I estimate maybe max of 20% of the atmosphere (pun not intended) came across to the stream viewers.
 
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Absolutely nothing. Just another pew pew update. Give us an working law and order system for bounty hounting and pirates.

- Engineering improvement
- Improved Trade Data
- Wing missions
- Asset polish to planets in Q1 2018 (Shaders and Graphs)
- Wide variety of planetary colour variation. In Q1 2018
- Narrative improvements
- Personal narrative
- more Guardians stuff
- Galnet Audio
- New ship: Chieftan
- New ship: Krait
- More alliance ships on the way
- Squadrons and fleet carriers for player groups + better organisational facilities for groups
- Lots of mining improvements (fully fledged career path)
- enhancements coming to planetary surfaces and environments
- Improved lighting model, both space and planetary
- Improvements to scatter-rock planetary system to improve placements of rocks and other surface objects.
- Improvements to localised ambient effects including fog
- Exploring improvements + new Codex to log your discoveries
- For explorers, there will be new exploration content and new anomalies to go out and find

Yeah ... I see what you mean ... all pew pew /s
 
- Engineering improvement
- Improved Trade Data
- Wing missions
- Asset polish to planets in Q1 2018 (Shaders and Graphs)
- Wide variety of planetary colour variation. In Q1 2018
- Narrative improvements
- Personal narrative
- more Guardians stuff
- Galnet Audio
- New ship: Chieftan
- New ship: Krait
- More alliance ships on the way
- Squadrons and fleet carriers for player groups + better organisational facilities for groups
- Lots of mining improvements (fully fledged career path)
- enhancements coming to planetary surfaces and environments
- Improved lighting model, both space and planetary
- Improvements to scatter-rock planetary system to improve placements of rocks and other surface objects.
- Improvements to localised ambient effects including fog
- Exploring improvements + new Codex to log your discoveries
- For explorers, there will be new exploration content and new anomalies to go out and find

Yeah ... I see what you mean ... all pew pew /s

It's funny having been there and then seeing people try to paint it differently from their armchairs. My wife loved the Expo and she doesn't even play the games.
 
It's funny having been there and then seeing people try to paint it differently from their armchairs. My wife loved the Expo and she doesn't even play the games.

You got that my post was a heavily sarcastic response to Munsterbusters ludicrous claim right? I was there too and absolutely loved it. Huge success as far as I'm concerned.
 
Josh Hawkins brings it all together pretty well including the timeline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_urqR_lgu4

"You really didn't miss anything. Nothing worth mentioning announced. Show was very badly organised and a complete waste of time and money. Wish I'd stayed at home."

So many wildly opposing views by people attending exactly the same event, it's hard to believe they were on the same planet! Why do some think all the new content just appears by magic? It all takes huge amounts of time, talent and money, look at SC! Watching the live stream my impression was positive, all the features are taking the game forward with plenty of new additions and improvements. Certainly the Squadrons for example are going to take ED gameplay to a whole new level. I was always betting on atmospheric landings in Q4 2019. The fog, ambient effects and the planet surface upgrades I think are a stepping stone to that. With a game like ED most players know they will be in it for the long haul and so are David and Frontier, thanks for an amazing journey, the best is yet to come!
 
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You got that my post was a heavily sarcastic response to Munsterbusters ludicrous claim right? I was there too and absolutely loved it. Huge success as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah, I didn't mean you were in the armchair! Obviously I could have been clearer, sorry.
 
I will thing I would add as a bod who was there, more chairs for the big reveal!!!
there was a fair few 84's there and they had to stand for 1hr and 30 min, that's a big ask for old backs , dodgey knees and poor bladder control
 
I will thing I would add as a bod who was there, more chairs for the big reveal!!!
there was a fair few 84's there and they had to stand for 1hr and 30 min, that's a big ask for old backs , dodgey knees and poor bladder control

Anyone have any idea how busy the 2nd stage and cafeteria were?
I was lucky to grab a 2nd row seat with the founders pass so was fine but I heard them announcing a few times that they were pushing the main reveal out to all the other stages and monitors they could so more people could see.
 
Anyone have any idea how busy the 2nd stage and cafeteria were?
I was lucky to grab a 2nd row seat with the founders pass so was fine but I heard them announcing a few times that they were pushing the main reveal out to all the other stages and monitors they could so more people could see.

The second stage was standing room only during the reveal.

Have to echo Josh Hawkins' view - I didn't travel hundreds of miles at great expense to watch a TV screen of a stream I could have watched at home. But that's what happened. Wish I'd not bothered going.
 
The second stage was standing room only during the reveal.

Have to echo Josh Hawkins' view - I didn't travel hundreds of miles at great expense to watch a TV screen of a stream I could have watched at home. But that's what happened. Wish I'd not bothered going.

I have to say I found the applause and whooping in the second stage slightly unnerving. It felt a bit strange to be reacting to a big TV screen.

I enjoyed Expo 17, but I doubt I'll be going to another. I waited what felt like a long time to see the big reveals, only to realise it would be second hand via a TV screen. Would have been more comfy at home ;)
 
Beyond >>> 2.4 way way better things are coming than 2.4 placeholder boring filler will do. I kinda enjoyed FX17, who knows maybe some gas giants and lifeless planets will come next. Have you seen the new planet graphics? Exploring that would be epic!
 
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