The reason I always leave game again

[Gun Star]

If you want to get a wired 360 controller. Controls are default to it when you plug it in. I used one till I got the HOTAS Setup. If you want a good HOTAS for not much money lookup the PS4 Thrustmaster. It is plug and play on PC and ED have a default control scheme for it.

Also there is tons on money to be made. From the Billionaires CG I made 70 mil. I called it quits earlier on that and decided I needed to do some mining to restock my materials. Just made 5 mil turning in a T9 load of 3 P's and Gold that I got from about 45 min of work.

I guess people really like those passenger missions.

 

[Knightshark]

Actually that is not true. Most hotas' are plug'n'play. Maybe you have to install a driver, but that's about it, nothing too complicated..
Programing skills (and very little of that) are only needed if you want to automate things like button squences, layers, profiles and so on.

Even then there are plenty of scripts out there and helpful players in case of a problem

The main issue with Hotas is with other games. In 10% of all games i get weird inputs when my pedals or Hotas are plugged in. So i bought a USB Hub with switches for each port.

 

[Ozric]

Money making appears to take even longer now

We must be playing different games, it's ridiculously easy now.

Shame, see you again soon though hopefully

 

[SirScarecrow]

Main question - do you have fun while playing game? If yes, why uninstall?

I have a lot of fun, but I just get nowhere. I did some maths and I would need about 400 hours or so of playing to afford an Anaconda (without proper fitting), and that is after already having spend forever to get an Asp Explorer Got the Explorer in 2016 and I never ever made use of any bugs/exploits. Anyway, had no idea I had so many replies so fast, I am going to hit the sack, but I guess I will give this Hotas situation closer attention since several mentioned now it is not as hard to make it work. Thx for the replies!

 

[Manticore]

If true then you either:

1) make a lot of money
2) You're stupid
3) You're crazy
4) the laziest man on Earth

Yeah........... I had to laugh.

Continuing to hope a game designed by others is suddenly going to change for you and become enjoyable; that's plain dumb.

 

[Knightshark]

I have a lot of fun, but I just get nowhere. I did some maths and I would need about 400 hours or so of playing to afford an Anaconda (without proper fitting), and that is after already having spend forever to get an Asp Explorer Got the Explorer in 2016 and I never ever made use of any bugs/exploits. Anyway, had no idea I had so many replies so fast, I am going to hit the sack, but I guess I will give this Hotas situation closer attention since several mentioned now it is not as hard to make it work. Thx for the replies!

Your math is way off. Just do the Alien Ruins. It will get you half way to Conda in 6h-10h with legit methods and it is great fun. Then do it again if you must...

 

[Quester91]

It literally takes 3 minutes to set the hotas controls as you like.

Of all the cons of this game, you had to point your finger at the only thing that's done so well it's basically plug and play.

 

[Pville_Piper]

If you have an Asp X the the next step is a T7 or Python. Either of those will allow you the ability to make large sums of money quickly running cargo. I had missions last night that paid out 1.5 million. On one run I made 2.4 million.

You have no idea the amount of money you can make with a Python in both trade and mining. I waited along time before buying a Python and only did so because it is such a great mining ship. Once I bought one it was no time before I got an Anaconda.

 

[Ben Sevil]

Do you know how? Mining perhaps? I spent 8 hours hunting pirates for a 3% increase in rank as competent. I remember the days I killed pirates more easily, got decent reward, but now, most anomalies are crap debries or something, and even if I rescue downed pods, I get like 3000 or so reward...

See this post here.

It does depend on what you're flying, of course; I wouldn't be able to make the sums mentioned there. (Me, I'm happy with a restful 15-20m/h carting passengers around.)

But assuming that you'll be able to maximise earnings by killing NPCs or humans without first investing time to get the necessary ship and modules is putting the horse before the cart.

 

[Ben Sevil]

I have a lot of fun, but I just get nowhere. I did some maths and I would need about 400 hours or so of playing to afford an Anaconda (without proper fitting), and that is after already having spend forever to get an Asp Explorer Got the Explorer in 2016 and I never ever made use of any bugs/exploits. Anyway, had no idea I had so many replies so fast, I am going to hit the sack, but I guess I will give this Hotas situation closer attention since several mentioned now it is not as hard to make it work. Thx for the replies!

Oh, yes, I did one of those calculations too, when I started out. Fortunately, others were kind enough to chip in with good suggestions!

 

[NecoMachina]

He considers it too much effort to set the controls for it.

To be fair, it is alot of effort when you have to set 3 different control schemes all to the same layout (Ship, SRV, Camera) because FDEV cannot be bothered to make it more user-friendly by giving us an option to default all 6DOF movement controls to the same bindings. And then to have your mappings wiped every time there is a patch because FDEV cannot be bothered to make sure their launcher/patcher doesn't wipe it out, and instead puts the responsibility on players to back up they control binds file.

 

[Cmdr Eagleboy]

To be fair, list of controls and time required to set them up is a bit long. It is good FD provides that first launching checklist, and I wish they had similar ones for SRV and multicamera suite.

 

[ALGOMATIC]

For PvP keyboard and mouse have clear advantage over hotas. There is no argument.

 

[krylite]

I keep installing the game again and again because frankly, I love the idea behind it, I really like so much about it, BUT ...... :

- Money making appears to take even longer now, especially with bounty hunting

- Powers to join is a great concept, but man that reward.....so much risk for so little reward. Got blown up by Hotas-Techexperts, because as a mouse and keyboard player I give that up.

Are you using a gaming mouse?

https://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g502-proteus-spectrum-rgb-gaming-mouse

 

[Zeeman]

I keep installing the game again and again because frankly, I love the idea behind it, I really like so much about it, BUT ...... :

- Money making appears to take even longer now, especially with bounty hunting
- Powers to join is a great concept, but man that reward.....so much risk for so little reward. Got blown up by Hotas-Techexperts, because as a mouse and keyboard player I give that up.
- CQC either dead and when not, dominated by HOTAS, TECH ++++++++++++ Superior players that leave keyboard and mouse users zero chance. I had a 2 hour fight on sunday, rare !!!! But the same guy kept winning over and over by a milestone, not fun.
- PVP extremely frustrated as dominated also by HOTAS-TECH ++++++++++ guys. You do not even know what hit you. There should be a way of knowing that an opponent has advanced flight control systems or so in-game so no HOTAS-TECH ++++++++++ users can avoid pvp. I would myself get a Joystick but after the days of the ForceFeedback Sidewinder (last game I played was Comanche Gold with it), I stopped using Joysticks because of tediously long and frustrating hours trying to make them work. Now from reading forums it apparently needs a guy with programming skills to set one up? No more plug and play and calibrate in 20 secs....

....

You realise that ED is actually one of the best games when it comes to controller equality, right? There are plenty of KB+M players at the very top of the PvP list, I'd say (based on the mouse cursor thingy I see in vids) it's a pretty even split. Don't blame your tools, learn to use them.

A HOTAS will give you better throttle and thruster control, but KB+ will give you better precision for fine aiming (key for fixed weapons).

As for the Anaconda...

Here's a secret - the Anaconda isn't all that great. I have most ships (multiples of) and I still enjoy the Asp X and Vulture most.

I broke the Cobra MKIII out of mothballs a few days back, along with the my iEagle, and have been really enjoying them.

Also, it took me about a year to get my first Anaconda. Though, money making is stupidly easy now, the CG's pay ridiculous amounts of cash for the mid levels. Heck, even just turning up to dump 1T of cargo gets you the lowest tier reward, and that's usually 1m cr at least by the time the CG is done. Show me a commodity where you'll earn 1m cr.

Z...

 

[macedk]

I went from keybaord to hotas many years ago.....when my brand new Thrustmaster cougar arrived ...I thought "what have i done ..I can't remember all this ??" Your brain is alot smarter than you give it credit for so long story short ...it is a 30 hour tought gettin used to and talking with the buddies that have it allready (which is alot in this forum).

My next move was the trackir for flying ....same thing and i'll never go back

Take the jump and ask all the stupid questions mate I tried Elite beta with keyboard and mouse when i first got this game ..arghhh build a profile for the stick first ..but I wanted to try it

Just to to clarify ...i still play fps with arrow keys ...the whole asdw thing ...not for me ..and I still hold my own ..

But when it comes to flying ..hotas is the way to go and it will lower your stress level and give you more time to enjoy the rest of the game ...I would say about 40% more as you can look at the game instead of at your keyboard ..

 

[Jazzy]

Another one of these posts, Game is to easy these days. Sheesh!

• Money making is actually easier, and has been getting easier since Elite went live. I miss the days of when it was hard to keep your Cobra flying, now we got players hitting Conda's and a billion in the bank in 7 or so days played. Find trade routes, Passenger runs (local or sightseeing) are money for jam. Don't be lazy and run some missions etc, Money doesnt come to you, you have to go find it.

Exploration is another money maker, scanning planets can make you a ton of cash and a few good people have made a great tour of certain systems in and around the bubble to make around 1 billion from scanning Water worlds, Earth likes etc. So once again Don't be lazy!

• Yes Powerplay is meh, but hopfully come 2018 FD might do some ground work on it to make it worthwhile.

• CQC was a waste of Dev time (imo) dead as roadkill.

• PVP (Hotas crew) I have X52 Pro and Warthog setups, but prefer mouse and Keyboard for PVP. Firing fixed weapons is easier for myself, and have learnt this from watching SDC video's (yes those chaps are scum of Elite's Universe, but they do know their PVP stuff and most play Mouse/KB for the accuracy). Take some time and configure your controls, If my kids who play Elite can do this (Aged 8,9 and 11) so can you, Don't be lazy!!!

When I do play in Open and get into PVP, if I am M/KB I have a good chance of winning the day, but have found when using my Hotas, I usually have to turn tail and run, due to my aiming with the Hotas isn't no where near as good, but this comes down to taking a little time and configure your controls (it's quite simple!!)

Elite: Dangerous is an easy game to play, to the point I have joked many times the game should be changed to Elite: Handholding, due to the nature of gaining everything in game now has been dumbed down so much since going live to suit the masses.

Good luck to you, if you return again maybe you might take the time to configure a control setup that works for you and then you may find you shall start to enjoy the game. If not best of luck to you on your next game

 

[JetsonRING]

no thanks. I would but man, I can't be bothered at this age to fiddle around with it until making it finally work. I run low on patience and threw a Ultra-4K Samsung TV out of the window the other day because Pixel-error occured 3 days after warranty ran out. I just don't want to spend all that money, wasting time installing and troubleshooting, would get it if it is plug and play. No time next to work, taking care of dog, taking care of sick wife, I just want to spend my tiny little time that I sometimes I have for myself playing, and not installing,programming, fiddle around with not user friendly devices (from what I saw on so many youtube etc videos).

PEBKAC. My HOTAS has about 30 buttons & switches (Saitek/Logitech X-56) and it takes about 30 minutes to customise it the way I want. If you cannot take that much time for victory then you may be right. o7

 

[Schmack]

I understand the OP's frustrations. The game is alluring, the feeling of being in the ship and being free to go do whatever you want, but then you get into the work involved in setting it up and you get turned off by the entire project. A game is supposed to be relaxing and fun (for older guys) and not an exercise in research and development level file moving and website hopping to figure out what some of the nomenclature even means. There's like what, 10 million different control points? You get a HOTAS with buttons for every finger, a throttle, a stick, a tophat, all that... and you still cannot get the gear down because you ran out of buttons. So you have to go to a higher level to use voice command. Now you're running a parallel program, talking to your PC, using both hands and all fingers and maybe even rudder control (for what I have no idea since we are in zero atmosphere, thrusters maybe?) with your feet. Now you're doing about as much as someone working the floor of the NYSE and you haven't even left the station yet. Now you need to find out where to go. So you have to get even another program to tell you where the goodies are, and you have to plot that in your system. Eventually you're off on your way, and then you get interdicted and killed while you're going into epilepsy mode on your controls, cursing at your computer and she's not having it, and you're suddenly looking at the rebuy screen.

I just don't understand why an uninstall is necessary.

 

[Tarman]

I understand the OP's frustrations. The game is alluring, the feeling of being in the ship and being free to go do whatever you want, but then you get into the work involved in setting it up and you get turned off by the entire project. A game is supposed to be relaxing and fun (for older guys) and not an exercise in research and development level file moving and website hopping to figure out what some of the nomenclature even means. There's like what, 10 million different control points? You get a HOTAS with buttons for every finger, a throttle, a stick, a tophat, all that... and you still cannot get the gear down because you ran out of buttons. So you have to go to a higher level to use voice command. Now you're running a parallel program, talking to your PC, using both hands and all fingers and maybe even rudder control (for what I have no idea since we are in zero atmosphere, thrusters maybe?) with your feet. Now you're doing about as much as someone working the floor of the NYSE and you haven't even left the station yet. Now you need to find out where to go. So you have to get even another program to tell you where the goodies are, and you have to plot that in your system. Eventually you're off on your way, and then you get interdicted and killed while you're going into epilepsy mode on your controls, cursing at your computer and she's not having it, and you're suddenly looking at the rebuy screen.

I just don't understand why an uninstall is necessary.

Is this really your experience with video game control schemes? For me, it's when I can't tweak them to my needs and kit that I get bent at them.