So, hype train for the video?
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Ian Phillips
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Well, here is the video, so let the hype begin 
[video=youtube;gssSBQ2QmKc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gssSBQ2QmKc[/video]
[video=youtube;gssSBQ2QmKc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gssSBQ2QmKc[/video]
If (and that's a biggie) I ever stop playing Elite: Dangerous fulltime then I have to say ... this. looks. AWESOME!
Dinosaur racing anyone? *1
[B]*1[/B] an in-joke relating to my involvement with the Buckyball Racing Club.
Dinosaur racing anyone?
*1
[B]*1[/B] an in-joke relating to my involvement with the Buckyball Racing Club.
Well I have to say I honestly did not know what to expect from Frontier regarding JWE and the direction they would take it.
The announcement trailer hinted at a park building game, we know Frontier excel at park building games given how great Planet Coaster is however I still wasn't really sure what to expect.
And truthfully I was not expecting what is in essence a spiritual successor to JPOG!! From what I have seen Frontier are leaning very heavily on what made that game a success whilst bringing a modern take on the game and presumably using the excellent PC game engine.
This Dinos look, sound and move and brilliantly, and the screenshots of the park buildings was impressive.
Cannot wait for this game already
The announcement trailer hinted at a park building game, we know Frontier excel at park building games given how great Planet Coaster is however I still wasn't really sure what to expect.
And truthfully I was not expecting what is in essence a spiritual successor to JPOG!! From what I have seen Frontier are leaning very heavily on what made that game a success whilst bringing a modern take on the game and presumably using the excellent PC game engine.
This Dinos look, sound and move and brilliantly, and the screenshots of the park buildings was impressive.
Cannot wait for this game already
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I still would like the dinosaurs to be represented a little bit more "modern". I've stated this in the "whish-list-thread" as well.
What do I mean here?
Look at the Triceratops, for example.
The neck shield is covered by greyish scales, indistinguishable from the other skin parts.
Paleontologic examinasions however have found that the shield was pevaded with blood vessels, very much like the beaks of birds where the horn is oftentimes brightly colored. Present-day reptiles also show bright colors in order to attract females, especially when in the mating season. Modern BBC productions featuring the latest discoveries show dinosaures therefore way more colorful; the "bland" look seems somehow dated.
Also the Raptors.
As far as I know, the current idea is that many Theropoda had feather-like skin features - to keep them warm (dinosaures were warm blooded) and probably also to help them maneuver while hunting. This is, how birds later developed their flying feathers.
By analysing the forms of fossilised pigment cells (which are typically shaped according to the color they show), we even know about the feathers colors and their distribution: brown, black and white. (Not the ones of Raptors, though.)
I would love to see this represented in a modern dinosaur game as well.
All this stands back behind gameplay, of course and I do not deny that the animals look superbly modeled and textured.
Just unnecessarily a bit uni-colored. For the look of a game, more colorful creatures would be a good thing to have (nicer to look at) - and here, modern science even indicates it to be the case!
Why stick to an out-dated state of knowledge?
What do I mean here?
Look at the Triceratops, for example.
The neck shield is covered by greyish scales, indistinguishable from the other skin parts.
Paleontologic examinasions however have found that the shield was pevaded with blood vessels, very much like the beaks of birds where the horn is oftentimes brightly colored. Present-day reptiles also show bright colors in order to attract females, especially when in the mating season. Modern BBC productions featuring the latest discoveries show dinosaures therefore way more colorful; the "bland" look seems somehow dated.
Also the Raptors.
As far as I know, the current idea is that many Theropoda had feather-like skin features - to keep them warm (dinosaures were warm blooded) and probably also to help them maneuver while hunting. This is, how birds later developed their flying feathers.
By analysing the forms of fossilised pigment cells (which are typically shaped according to the color they show), we even know about the feathers colors and their distribution: brown, black and white. (Not the ones of Raptors, though.)
I would love to see this represented in a modern dinosaur game as well.
All this stands back behind gameplay, of course and I do not deny that the animals look superbly modeled and textured.
Just unnecessarily a bit uni-colored. For the look of a game, more colorful creatures would be a good thing to have (nicer to look at) - and here, modern science even indicates it to be the case!
Why stick to an out-dated state of knowledge?
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From a brief discussion I had with Michael Brookes at the Expo I believe that Frontier are sticking to the vision of dinosaurs presented by Universal Pictures in their Jurassic Park series of films rather than following current lines of real world scientfic discovery and interpretation.
That's exactly what I would have guessed. Thank you for the confirmation!
Unfortunately, the series started quite a while ago now ...
I do understand the whole licensing issue of course and why Universal Pictures wants to see the dinosaurs represented like in the movies.
It's still a bit of a shame.
Unfortunately, the series started quite a while ago now ...
I do understand the whole licensing issue of course and why Universal Pictures wants to see the dinosaurs represented like in the movies.
It's still a bit of a shame.
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Actually, this video is rubbish. It\s just some pre/rendered video looped and tagged as game-engine, without any way of telling it really is.
Just the typical PR smoke and mirrors. I'm not impressed.
Just the typical PR smoke and mirrors. I'm not impressed.
Ian Phillips
Volunteer Moderator
@Deggial
It's a tie in with the new movie, so not really surprising that FD are sticking to the movie depictions of the dinosaurs. Maybe the research part might allow us to add in 'recently discovered' DNA, and let us add feathers and colours to them. That could be a way to add to the game and allow players to update the older versions of the dinosaurs.
It's a tie in with the new movie, so not really surprising that FD are sticking to the movie depictions of the dinosaurs. Maybe the research part might allow us to add in 'recently discovered' DNA, and let us add feathers and colours to them. That could be a way to add to the game and allow players to update the older versions of the dinosaurs.
That's actually a neat idea, Ian. I could live with this.
Hmmm ... do "the Devs listen" here, too?
Well, those things won't break the game for me anyway. It just would be/have been nice.
And while I understand FDev's reason to portrait the dinosaurs exactly as in the upcoming movie, it rises the question: Why doesn't the movie take modern science into account?
As I said above: In this case, science doesn't make things "boring", but quite the opposite. It makes them more colorful and exciting!
Hmmm ... do "the Devs listen" here, too?
Well, those things won't break the game for me anyway. It just would be/have been nice.
And while I understand FDev's reason to portrait the dinosaurs exactly as in the upcoming movie, it rises the question: Why doesn't the movie take modern science into account?
As I said above: In this case, science doesn't make things "boring", but quite the opposite. It makes them more colorful and exciting!
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Frontier isnt EA or Ubisoft. If they say its ingame footage, i tend to belive them.
To me this was like having christmas early. Kept throwing my wallet at my laptop screen. Summer of 2018 can't come soon enough. Side note I thought it was funny seeing that trike run from them raptors when awhile back(when i still owned a pc copy of jpog) they'd be trampling them like it was nothing on one of my site b plays.
I would be very surprised if there wasn't a REQUIREMENT in the licensing to keep the dinos looking the same as the movies.
Oh they wouldn't be able to do this without licensing but yeah they're required to keep it like in the films. As they should...
I am hoping for a bit more....jump in that Chopper/jeep and go explore FPV style
LEt's not exaggerate now. We aren't controlling dinosaurs... YET.
Because Universial want them to stick to the look of the dinosaurs in the film.
I did see that a couple of the dinosaurs have beta Keratin on their face, so I suspect Frontier will be giving theirs that feature but keeping it in the same colour scheme.
I'm hoping after the film is release a update that allows more varied colours comes along.
I don't think we will ever see realistic dinosaurs on our screens ever, it far more scary to think of them as overgrown lizards than overgrown birds.
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Being a flight simmer at heart, I can't wait to fly that helicopter