And there is no reason they should've done it either. There is nothing dramatic about it.
PSA: Not sure if anyone spotted this but a dev has confirmed there will be paid content as well as the free stuff...
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I second that. Most of the problems since release has been this no-transparency-peasants! tactic.
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Then we would find something else to complain about.
After watching the expo I thought everyone would be happy.
Wrong. People complained about no space legs and atmos.
I thought people would be happy that stuff is for free.
Wrong, people complain that it doesn't benefit those owning the LEP.
I thought people would be happy that we will get some paid updates in 2018.
Wrong, because people want to know exactly what these updates will be.
Normal people just cannot expect this.
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Because this community simply cant deal with it. Leading up to this expo tons of posts went like this:"Lol, bet they'll go all no eta no promises soon no information at this point lol so weak."
So what does our wonderful community do now? Argue FD shoukd have said 'no further info no eta no promises'. Right. This community loves that. Boy oh boy why didnt FD say this? Such an amazing mystery, lets all be confused...
Who is being 'dramatic'? - we are discussing it on a discussion board, the reason they should have done it is obvious isn't it?, to remove uncertainty, to be open about their plans and to prevent prolonging uncertainty.
Of course forums would, it's what they do, but this did not need to be one of those things.
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This community is 'special' and I don't envy FD in having to make sense of it. There's definitely truth in your previous post about the tell tale symptoms of autistic/asperger-like tendencies.
As an observer though I would categorise the more rational complaints as basically the community expressing a weariness of the "No ETAs, no gurrantees" politician like statements. However when it comes to differentiating payed and free content I beleive FD need not fear to talk about that to their fans and customers. Even though they cannot say what the premium content will be yet it's still helpful to mention that there will indeed be purchaseable content available in 2018 in tandem with all the free stuff of Beyond.
It would have headed off that LEP owner's freakout at least. That being said, to be fair to FD they had no way of predicting the LEP freakout. I really don't envy them the community management task.
I don't see anything strange about this.
Frontier gave us the roadmap for 2018 at the expo. This doesn't include anything Beyond that.
The next big thing is very likely atmospheric landings, which might be targeted for 2019.
There is a lot of stuff to consider for atmospheric landings, lot of different planets to generate, so it will take quite some time. This is too far off and they are not ready to talk about it yet.
That means they would have a year downtime until the next big release. That's why FDEV was so ready to focus on the core gameplay, which is something they may have done anyway (was already planned) in 2018.
Companies don't just plan for the next 6 month ahead, they plan several years ahead.
But that doesn't mean they owe as a roadmap for more than a year in advance.
Frontier gave us the roadmap for 2018 at the expo. This doesn't include anything Beyond that.
The next big thing is very likely atmospheric landings, which might be targeted for 2019.
There is a lot of stuff to consider for atmospheric landings, lot of different planets to generate, so it will take quite some time. This is too far off and they are not ready to talk about it yet.
That means they would have a year downtime until the next big release. That's why FDEV was so ready to focus on the core gameplay, which is something they may have done anyway (was already planned) in 2018.
Companies don't just plan for the next 6 month ahead, they plan several years ahead.
But that doesn't mean they owe as a roadmap for more than a year in advance.
Absolutely. [up]
Businesses who are lucky enough to come up with a truly iconic product aren't likely to deliberately discard that product.
You're not going to see Apple shelve the iPhone and then attempt to corner the market in, say, VR headsets instead.
You're not going to see Dyson shelve their vacuum-cleaners and then divert their attention to wacky desk fans and hairdryers instead.
You're not going to see Porsche shelve the 911 and start tying to make the best delivery vans possible.
Unless a company is absolutely convinced that their existing product is on it's last legs, and that a completely new product is guaranteed to be an even bigger success, they're not likely to abandon an existing revenue stream.
My original point was simply that IF FDev decides to cease development of ED then there's little point in worrying about it.
Conversely, if that's not the case (which seems more likely), then it's daft to think they're going to provide perpetual free updates, thus negating the benefit of the LEP.
I didn't want to imply that your tone is dramatic, I just tried to say there will be no harm done when they don't announce something immediately.
It is called PR. Companies do that, because they are run busineses who earn money. Managing client expectations is one of thought tasks PR has to endure. That means messaging at different stages and forms.
And you don't have to approve it, that's fine. But it isn't evil or wrong. You just don't see this eye to eye with FD. I personally care less.
It's a Dramedy
ED has choice not to engage in PvP in form of Solo.
To be clear again, I'm fine with what they plan but their method of delivering the information seems strange at times, I'm struggling to remember what it was but there was another info drop where they took this approach and caused a larger longer forum storm than was required, it's almost sadomasochistic of them, or maybe they don't like the moderation team! :O
The worst thing that could happen is that they announce something, and then need to change plans because they run into difficulties or delay it. The best they can do is to remain silent as much as possible. Maybe some people are disappointed by the lack of information but it's certainly better than the hordes of trolls demanding refunds.
Oh, as far as I am concerned they tell us as much as possible, definitely. But yeah, FD is walking a tightrope here. On one hand they want to treat us as sane adults, and on the other hand, well, yeah, you know.
Glad to hear it, but you are posting a lot considering you 'care less', if this info had of come out six months down the track when they had details they were ready to announce, fine, the fact it drops just after the expo with no details suggests it could have been said at the expo don't you think?
It's almost as if a huge amount of people have lost their minds or rational sense, I have to admit I am mostly baffled!
I was trying to think of something to write but I think you've nailed it.
I don't think they expected the freakout from LEP owners and were possibly trying (too hard perhaps) to please the crowd that freaks out over "No ETAs, no release times, no gurrantees". I can't really blame them tbh, I mean I didn't expect the LEP freakout either.
As Sleut said, they steered clear of making non-commital anouncements because they were scared of ticking off the community. In my opinion that was misguided because this time around it actually concerns differentiating between payed and non-payed for content. But ce'est la vie. So now after the LEP freakout they issued a statement to reassure the LEP owners. And now other people are getting freaked out over that.
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As a LEP I think they could have handled/communicated it better is all, lack of foresight on their part, I didn't partake in the LEP woes thread except to say, 'no news is good news isn't guys and gals?' as I was/am happy. And yeah, I agree with you on the 'this time' part, lack of foresight is not a good reason to not drop this info at the expo instead of a few days later.