Oh COME ON. Lost 43M Credits to a simple misunderstanding...

In real life you can't buy a private jet, try it out, then turn around and sell it for full price, so why would you think you could in Elite? The game also tells you what price you're going to get for it when you hit the sell button.

Sorry, but you're acting like a petulant teenager. Making a big show of ignoring and calling out specific respondents isn't helping that image.

If you didn't want to be criticized, then don't post on a public forum.

ecause this isn't real life?
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Always funny to see people loose ingame money then come to the forum and blame frontier for their own stupid mistakes:D. You still have 389mill left, i really dont feel sorry for you....
 
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xzanfr "Theres no excuse for cmdrs that have played long enough to get access to Jamesons Memorial - you know full well how it works. Try playing with https://coriolis.edcd.io/ before you buy."

The corliolis I mentioned in my OP? yeah, good one brains. What's your next suggestion?

"Cmdr's like you should have there access to the founders system revoked."

And humans like you should have your access to sanitation and oxygen removed. Join the #ignored queue xzanfr. Say hi to the others, or don't... I won't see it either way.

Well someone has got a bit eggy - hoping that I die and #ignoring me, I'm not sure which one is worse :D
With any luck I'll be able to sleep tonight knowing that the op won't be able to read my posts... when I've finished crying.
 
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As a wee public service announcement, remember that you can 'ignore' users in the forum, and never see their posts. When someone answers a post or question with sneering snark, you have to ask - will they ever behave any other way? and do you want that in your life?

I don't let it bother me.
 
In real life you can't buy a private jet, try it out, then turn around and sell it for full price.

Aye, because you have bought a private jet in real life, haven't you mate? [haha]

now watch, as I make a big show of ignoring and calling out... you!
 
Pretty sure this is in the manual, and should also have been noticed on every ship sale ever.

Aye, because you have bought a private jet in real life, haven't you mate? [haha]

now watch, as I make a big show of ignoring and calling out... you!

Replace 'private jet' with just about anything.

If you've opened it and used it, most places that will take it back, in most places that I know of, will charge a 15%+ restocking fee.
 
Aye, because you have bought a private jet in real life, haven't you mate? [haha]

now watch, as I make a big show of ignoring and calling out... you!

You'll have half the forum ignored the rate you are going.

Could have been worse and you could have flown, jammed in the slot and died without a rebuy.

Personally I keep my favourite ships, takes a long while longer to afford anything but absolute worst case would be going back to a previous vessel, and even then I would normally need to die twice in quick succession to lose a ship like that.....

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Pretty sure this is in the manual, and should also have been noticed on every ship sale ever.

Replace 'private jet' with just about anything.

If you've opened it and used it, most places that will take it back, in most places that I know of, will charge a 15%+ restocking fee.

Not true. for shrink wrap consumer goods, maybe. For anything high value, not at all.

would you buy a car, new or used, without a test drive? Go to a jewellers and buy a watch - do you have to buy it before you try it on your wrist? then sell it back to try the next one on? Welcome to the Levis store. I'm afraid you need to BUY the jeans before you can try them on... and if you want to see how they look with a particular belt or shirt, you will have to buy that too. and Sell them back to me before you try the next ones on... at a loss, of course.

We have a special name for stores like that. it's "shut down".

The lengths some people will go to in order to defend a bad game mechanic is staggering.
 
There is really no defending such a horrible stupid game design decision as this one. I'm shocked to see the amount of players that still try.

Outfitting is a separate part of the game, it would be a no-brainer to present you with a bill once you leave the outfitting screen.

It's like when you go to a wallmart, every time you look at an item you pay for it, and when you put it back you have to sell it for 90% of the price.

It's just lazy, shoddy programming.

PS: As a fan, defend the good parts of ED, not the brainless ones.
 
Aye, because you have bought a private jet in real life, haven't you mate? [haha]

now watch, as I make a big show of ignoring and calling out... you!

My country, Norway bought 52 F35 jets from Lockeed Martin, the planes wasnt even built yet, we dont even know if their gonna fly.......
 
Somebody else came up with the great idea of allowing us to "assemble" ships in the shipyard to see what they look like, and what modules they take etc. without leaving the game. A sort of coriolis.io in the game. Which I think is a very good idea.

To OP, I suggest wait for a Beta before you do that. In Beta you can try and fly whatever you want without affecting your game, and the costs are very low.

FDev's argument is that there is already 3rd aprty software available so there is no need to spend resources on developing existing stuff ingame.
Which I think is okay but what we do need is an inagme web browser so we can access these 3rd party tools and netflix without leaving the game. For real, gosh.
 
You'll have half the forum ignored the rate you are going.

Could have been worse and you could have flown, jammed in the slot and died without a rebuy.

Personally I keep my favourite ships, takes a long while longer to afford anything but absolute worst case would be going back to a previous vessel, and even then I would normally need to die twice in quick succession to lose a ship like that.....

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I'm actually fine with that. I have over four thousand people on my Twitter block list to make life better, and let me tell you... life is good.

Me too, actually. One reason I haven't explored the bigger ships until now is that I love my wee fleet. I have my long term ASP Explorer, kitted for deep space, a Vulture that I have been improving bit by bit as my combat skills improve, an imperial courier that I use for bounty hunting and surface scan work. (no SRV in the vulture...) and the DBE that took me to Sag A - my first deep space ship, so still good for a wee spin every now and then.

What horrified me about the cost of getting an anaconda up and running properly was how the thought that I might have to sell one of my ships to get it right... and these have too many good memories in them already.

;)
 
My country, Norway bought 52 F35 jets from Lockeed Martin, the planes wasnt even built yet, we dont even know if their gonna fly.......

Yes, my moronic government did the same. So which Elite ship do you think the F35 is most like? gotta be an Adder. You look at it and just kinda go... why?
 
Great post! Good idea - makes a lot of sense. [up]

But then you've trashed the DEVS and the fan bois, apologists and pretend pragmatists are gonna jump your behind for having the utter temerity to make a reasonable suggestion that would add greatly to ED's quality of life. [yesnod]

So,

Having got a decent amount of credits (about 440M), I was sitting in Jameson Memorial and thought I would see what an Anaconda would look like...

Bought one, and hopped into outfitting to see what it would take to kit out.. bit fun swapping modules on and off, playing with range, power, hardpoints... the usual.

realised that I couldn't kit one out for that money - reached the point where I only had 6M left, and the ship would be a 20M+ rebuy! [haha]

So, I didn't even leave the hangar. Shipyard > purchase > outfitting > (laughter) > Shipyard and sell..

and suddenly, I'm down below 400M credits...

So i checked Inara - yeah. I spent 128M on a hull, 303M on components - 432M all in, and only got 389M back.

Presumably this has happened before and I haven't noticed because I fly (much) lower value ships... but this is so darn annoying.

There should be a tire-kicking interface in the game, for goodness sakes. Because I wanted to actually see the thing, rather than sit watching text in Corilios (and there isn't even *THAT* basic functionality in the game itself!), I have lost more credits in a few minutes sat in dock than I made during the entire last two months.

I love playing Elite, I really do, but there are times when Frontier seem to have gone out of their way to find the mechanism to just irritate you to the max.

This could be so easily resolved; and as with so many others, it's a real world analogy. If you want to see what a nice car looks like from the inside, you go to the dealer. You sit in the seat, and if you are a bit more serious, you take a test drive.

If ED's model was followed, you would have to buy the car, then rather than flicking through the brochure of extras, you would have to buy each one in turn to find out what the spec was. Once you decided that you didn't want the car, you would have to sell it back, except it's now used, so you lose 10%.

can you imagine how many days a car dealership would stay in business if that was their model? yeah.

So, here's the fix.

If you don't fly it, you didn't buy it. full refund. Launch it, you pay for it.

Easy to implement, less annoying for users, more like the real world.

Now, I am off to find one of those 'make money fast' videos and heading to Quince... because if the game is going to exploit me out of 2 months worth of money, I'm going to exploit until I get it back.
 
Ahh, there's the all too typical forum spirit.

You post something as an observation, a bit of banter - some CMDRs engage and there's some discussion, then the dreck floats to the surface and starts posting. First out the gate...

andrak
nanite2000
MalcYorks
xzanfr - humans like you should have your access to sanitation and oxygen removed.
Reap4r
V'larr
sleutelbos

BITE ME.

Lol, touchy. Ah well, I guess we'll HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT. :p Props for actually wishing a user here dies because he points out you made a mistake in a game, class act! Oh, how we now all wish we were more sympathetic to you, you clearly deserve it and we'll never get to interact with such a grand human being again. :)
 
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