I dont see why not.
dayrth
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Has there been confirmation that there will be Alliance ranks? It could be that Alliance ships will be available to everyone (I REALLY hope this is not the case), or that they will be restricted in another fashion. Maybe you will only be able to buy them at Allioth so you will need the permit or something like that.
If there are to be ranks then I hope past work will count toward them. Been an Alliance supporter since launch and pledged to Mahon since the introduction of PP.
If there are to be ranks then I hope past work will count toward them. Been an Alliance supporter since launch and pledged to Mahon since the introduction of PP.
Please no...
Made me laugh, those were the exact words in my head when I saw this topic.
That's the problem with fleshing out the naval careers for all three factions, not just Alliance. Trying to backfill the career/ranking system after it's been in place for three years is going to ruffle feathers no matter how they do it.
Adding ranks to Alliance? If you've already got the Alioth permit and have run 10,000 missions for them, do you start out as an Alliance rookie and have to work your way up from the bottom?
If they add actual military careers and missions beyond "take a random mission and add Naval Ascension to it" are players who've ranked to Admiral or King going to have to go back and re-certify? If not, will the players who want the gameplay offered by such a thing be able to go back and play them?
Will they scrap the current model altogether and make everybody start from scratch?
Will they make fleet allegiance a requirement, where you can only serve in one military at a time, and if so what happens to your other ranks?
All this stuff should have been in place a long time ago. Having to go back and rewire it all after the fact is going to cause problems.
Adding ranks to Alliance? If you've already got the Alioth permit and have run 10,000 missions for them, do you start out as an Alliance rookie and have to work your way up from the bottom?
If they add actual military careers and missions beyond "take a random mission and add Naval Ascension to it" are players who've ranked to Admiral or King going to have to go back and re-certify? If not, will the players who want the gameplay offered by such a thing be able to go back and play them?
Will they scrap the current model altogether and make everybody start from scratch?
Will they make fleet allegiance a requirement, where you can only serve in one military at a time, and if so what happens to your other ranks?
All this stuff should have been in place a long time ago. Having to go back and rewire it all after the fact is going to cause problems.
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My current rep with the Alliance is around -50% (and dropping), so I knida hope we don't have to grind Alliance rep for the Chieftain!
They have a cool opportunity to add a new restriction mechanic, so it would be such a shame if the Alliance turned into a copy of the other factions.
(Fed/Imperial-style ranks also goes against the very character of the Alliance, so it would be ugly for the fiction too.)
I'm guessing/hoping that the ships will be restricted to pilots who are allied and have obtained the Alioth permit (or perhaps ship-buying requires a different Alliance system permit?). An all-out new and different kind of threshold mechanic would be even more welcome! Anything fresh and different, anything except a copy/paste of the existing ranking mechanic already used by Fed/Imp factions.
(Fed/Imperial-style ranks also goes against the very character of the Alliance, so it would be ugly for the fiction too.)
I'm guessing/hoping that the ships will be restricted to pilots who are allied and have obtained the Alioth permit (or perhaps ship-buying requires a different Alliance system permit?). An all-out new and different kind of threshold mechanic would be even more welcome! Anything fresh and different, anything except a copy/paste of the existing ranking mechanic already used by Fed/Imp factions.
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_trent_
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I don't have an issue with Alliance ranks if it introduces new ships into the game.
The ships in question would need to offer something different from the Imperial and Fed ships that would make them worth having.
I've always quite liked the idea of a gunship with lots of small/medium hardpoints or carrier type ships. I'm sure there are plenty of gaps in the market that could be filled by new types of Alliance-only ship.
The ships in question would need to offer something different from the Imperial and Fed ships that would make them worth having.
I've always quite liked the idea of a gunship with lots of small/medium hardpoints or carrier type ships. I'm sure there are plenty of gaps in the market that could be filled by new types of Alliance-only ship.
Good question, was wondering about this too.. +1
That's asking the real questions here, but I think there is a possibility that the answer is yes due to how many stats are being recorded for our commanders.
I don't mind either way because doing work for the Alliance is part of my daily gameplay.
Anyway, those who made fun of the alliance until now should be given having to do double the effort just for the nemesis factor. [hehe]
I don't mind either way because doing work for the Alliance is part of my daily gameplay.
Anyway, those who made fun of the alliance until now should be given having to do double the effort just for the nemesis factor. [hehe]
I would say probably no. When they add the ranks, we will all be at zero %. However, those of us who live and work in alliance space should already have a head start due to being friendly/allied with many alliance factions giving us a good selection of missions from day 1.
Just out of curiosity, how do you get the alioth permit? Just so I can plan a trip to all three superpowers capitols
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Found an Alliance recruitment video:
[video=youtube;SpQoP9Gh1MI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpQoP9Gh1MI&index=36&list=PLSMETuURtTXCzW7Q_ZIy4QzEnyUG8totf[/video]
[video=youtube;SpQoP9Gh1MI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpQoP9Gh1MI&index=36&list=PLSMETuURtTXCzW7Q_ZIy4QzEnyUG8totf[/video]
Just out of curiosity, how do you get the alioth permit? Just so I can plan a trip to all three superpowers capitols
Become allied with the Alioth Independants. They have a presence in some of the systems nearest Alioth. Once allied, they'll offer a permit-earning mission IIRC
Thank you very much. Time to put that on my bucket list....
Just don't do missions for AI in Phekda please. We are trying to kick them out. They are a constant pain in the rear end with permit runners all the time pushing their influence.
My ideal situation would be if AI were pushed out of every single system until they only exist in Alioth. At that point the permit would no longer be possible to obtain (unless they expanded again), forcing FD to remove the permit requirement.