So why are we fighting again?

[Ziljan]

So far we've had several releases giving us the opportunity to brawl with our old 6 legged enemigos. However we haven't really gotten a compelling reason to attack them. I mean sure, we have a few zapped bases and uncountable numbers of NHSSs filled with the debris of human ships. But this could just be an unfortunate series of misunderstandings. Don't get me wrong! I'm ready to bring the pew, but I've yet to see a compelling reason to do so. My home systems aren't being threatened. The bubble is largely untouched, and the aliens only fire if I provoke them, despite having killed at least a dozen of them single handed. They are a forgiving bunch, I'll say that much for them.

I guess what I'm saying is: what's my motivation here? Should we expect the real invasion fleet soon? Will all hades be breaking loose in bubble? Or is this game of footsies in the Pleiades "it"?

 

[Obnoxious_Gamer]

So far we've had several releases giving us the opportunity to brawl with our old 6 legged enemigos. However we haven't really gotten a compelling reason to attack them. I mean sure, we have a few zapped bases and uncountable numbers of NHSSs filled with the debris of human ships. But this could just be an unfortunate series of misunderstandings. Don't get me wrong! I'm ready to bring the pew, but I've yet to see a compelling reason to do so. My home systems aren't being threatened. The bubble is largely untouched, and the aliens only fire if I provoke them, despite having killed at least a dozen of them single handed. They are a forgiving bunch, I'll say that much for them.

I guess what I'm saying is: what's my motivation here? Should we expect the real invasion fleet soon? Will all hades breaking loose in bubble? Or is this game of footsies in the Pleiades "it"?

Personally, I'm not really motivated to spend an hour jumping anything combat-equipped that far out, so live and let live. Maybe when some actual content is released, I might even be motivated enough to log in.

 

[Knightshark]

Maybe by killing them without reason you create the real reason we all will have to kill then later to survive...

 

[YinYin]

I sure ain't fighting now.

If you are fighting now, I'd say you are covering AX operations. (fleets/megaships that manage to do what they set out to, because you've kept the flowers busy).

The trailer was pretty indicative of what more to expect. However I do not expect it to spill much further from the Pleiades, depending on what the different parties actual goals are.

 

[Trafalgar Law]

So far we've had several releases giving us the opportunity to brawl with our old 6 legged enemigos. However we haven't really gotten a compelling reason to attack them. I mean sure, we have a few zapped bases and uncountable numbers of NHSSs filled with the debris of human ships. But this could just be an unfortunate series of misunderstandings. Don't get me wrong! I'm ready to bring the pew, but I've yet to see a compelling reason to do so. My home systems aren't being threatened. The bubble is largely untouched, and the aliens only fire if I provoke them, despite having killed at least a dozen of them single handed. They are a forgiving bunch, I'll say that much for them.

I guess what I'm saying is: what's my motivation here? Should we expect the real invasion fleet soon? Will all hades breaking loose in bubble? Or is this game of footsies in the Pleiades "it"?

There isn't one really. Life in the human sphere continues as normal, no reason to attack the thargoids, no reason to scan them, no reason to take samples from them, almost the entirety of the human race doesn't seem to care that an alien race may be attacking us (only person who seems to have noticed their existence is Palin). It appears that a handful of community goals that required zero interaction with the 'goids is as close to recognising the existence of this 'threat' as it gets.

 

[[DOOK] Droogie]

There isn't one really. Life in the human sphere continues as normal, no reason to attack the thargoids, no reason to scan them, no reason to take samples from them, almost the entirety of the human race doesn't seem to care that an alien race may be attacking us (only person who seems to have noticed their existence is Palin). It appears that a handful of community goals that required zero interaction with the 'goids is as close to recognising the existence of this 'threat' as it gets.

 

[Deleted member 38366]

Haven't seen a single non-human craft myself. Not once.

Since none of them ever shot at me and I never witnessed any attack (there's factually no proof they're the aggressors, everything so far points to humans/AEGIS being the aggressor), I have no intent to engage in hostilities.
I also own no single AX Weapon.

Galaxy is more than big enough.
Given the <1% of that Galaxy we've explored so far, technically there could be dozens of advanced civilizations in that very Galaxy - and we wouldn't even know.
Again, even this would give no single reason for unwarranted aggression of any sort.

PS.
And even if there was a major attack wave incoming... remember I'm - by definition - "just a single CMDR in a Spaceship" not affecting or deciding anything.
No fleets, no CapShips, I own no Orbital or Planetary Assets, no Factories. Just a guy superglued to a seat in a remlok suit.

If SuperPowers, Powers and Factions/Governments can't handle it - they're the "big guys", calling all the shots, having all the Assets - what the heck would I be supposed to do?

 

[Exiton]

There's absolutely zero reasons to fight thargoids at this point. The materials they drop can't be used, they don't attack players first, and any number of them killed doesn't influence background simulation, powerplay or "exciting narrative".

 

[Viscera]

Unfortunately there seems to be no real storyline to entice players to join in at present.

Other than the tiny smattering of fed/imp reporting them leaving the pleides what other news is there.

No "the thargoids probed my cat" headlines or anything tootling along in the daily news....that is sorely lacking.

The only report of note I can think of is "they adapted" which only really caused a furore for the fact they did not really adapt, but instead reprogrammed some missiles. That was about the jist I got.

I do have the t shirt. I went, tooled around saving some escape pods, got interdicted and got attacked for just deploying a cargo hatch(I was in a hauler so in my book they proved hostile, kill them all boys).

I then got bored of waiting for something else to happen and eent back to my normal game.

So. In order to answer your question. Kill them all. They attacked a defenceless pilot in a hauler who can not even hurt them if he deployed his burst laser.

Light up the sky with burning thargone.

 

[Red Anders]

So far we've had several releases giving us the opportunity to brawl with our old 6 legged enemigos. However we haven't really gotten a compelling reason to attack them. I mean sure, we have a few zapped bases and uncountable numbers of NHSSs filled with the debris of human ships. But this could just be an unfortunate series of misunderstandings. Don't get me wrong! I'm ready to bring the pew, but I've yet to see a compelling reason to do so. My home systems aren't being threatened. The bubble is largely untouched, and the aliens only fire if I provoke them, despite having killed at least a dozen of them single handed. They are a forgiving bunch, I'll say that much for them.

I guess what I'm saying is: what's my motivation here? Should we expect the real invasion fleet soon? Will all hades be breaking loose in bubble? Or is this game of footsies in the Pleiades "it"?

Typical, you have to go and change your Baltar avatar so I can't just scream COLLABORATOR! at you.

 

[[VR] Deggial]

I WANT to fight them ... but I really can't bring myself to attack them so far.

As you wrote, Ziljan, all we find in those NHSS are the remains of violent incidents. The alien ships we encounter there actually don't act hostil against us - unless provoked.
Yes, gathering those escape pods could be counted as hostile act. But it could mean something completely different as well.

I outfitted and engineered a dedicated AX ship (a Python), went there, scanned and got scanned myself ... and couldn't bring myself to fire the first shot!
It's weird.
I know, its just a game.
I know it's there for me to have fun (and the combat aspect of ED is fun for me).
But I COULD NOT FIRE FIRST!

No doubt, I would try to blast them to smithereens (well, yes, indeed "try"), if they opened fire at me as soon as I enter the scene.
But they don't.
And I can't overcome my social imprinting / my moral bonds.
Sad.
(Or is it?)

 

[znôrt]

asks 'why are we fighting' after killing 'a dozen single handed'.

role playing realism extreme.
one thing is sure, by now they know very well why they have to fight humans.

 

[Iskariot]

I guess what I'm saying is: what's my motivation here? Should we expect the real invasion fleet soon? Will all hades be breaking loose in bubble? Or is this game of footsies in the Pleiades "it"?

I think you might be missing the point .

The point is you should not really have a motivation to attack them, as obviously these Thargoids are not the real enemy.

That is why they only attack when attacked by us, that is why they only threaten if you come too close, and subsequently refrain from attack if you move away again.
That is why they only threaten if you carry stolen Thargoid technology, and refrain from further aggression when you release that technology to them.
And, for reasons we can only guess at, they also get upset when confronted with Guardian Technology. Perhaps in the past the Guardians did a number on them too. Perhaps the Guardians where the same kind of trigger happy xenophobic killers as many of our cmdrs seem to be.

I bet we will soon meet the Thargoid faction that will give us all the reasons we need to fight them...

 

[KellyR]

Well, I don't want to fight them. I prefer fighting my own kind that have disregarded the laws and made themselves a threat to decent people. At least I know how they think, for the most part. I see no reason why we can't co-exist peacefully with these Thargoids. We don't need the same kind of planets (our kind would kill them and their kind would kill us), we don't eat the same food (again, food we eat would be gross and poisonous to them and vice versa), they don't attack us unless attacked or annoyed. There is no direct competition for resources, so why not form an alliance that's beneficial to both?

 

[Valethar]

Because we're humans, and humans kill things. More often than not, for no logical reason other than the thing being killed exists.

 

[JeffRyan]

The Prismatic Imperium's standing orders are basically 'Don't'. We'll probably change our minds if the Emperor tells us we gotta.

 

[Straker]

Yes, I agree. Looking forward to the narrative evolving, finding out a few more things and having a reason to get involved.

 

[xDreadnoughtx]

The answers may, possibly include

1. Roleplay imagination reasons
2. Lack of imagination reasons
3. It's the latest fashion reasons
4. It's the latest set piece and therefore not yet totally bored of it yet reasons.
5. Enjoying it reasons.

There may well be other reasons, but I exhausted points 2 to 5 in about 3 hours of play. Point one might be a great one for encouraging all sort of activities in ED but the continuing woeful lack of community tools and reliance on external sites where people dress up and do playacting kills it for me (yes yes blaze your own trail blah blah).

No meaningful reason to fight Thargoids that I can see, but if you are enjoying it great. It is your game after all.

Cheers

 

[Surprised Brony]

I won't have questionable reasoning skills and say that their tendency to take escape pods is "possibly not evil" because you know damn well they're not bringing them back to us. We'd hear of it.

I will say that I have ceased hostilities as of late. If they're content to kidnap those bold enough to challenge them out there, then I will leave fools to their fate. The moment I see them actively seeking us out? They're dead.

 

[Araviel]

Since the Dev's have stated that the Thargoid content will be voluntarily and not forced upon anyone i have my doubts that there will be any invasion done by them in the bubble.
More likely we will go and invade them instead in one of the currently permit locked regions.