Just don't get it

scimon

scimon
So. I've been feeling depressed recently. To the point that I've finally admitted it and start therapy. One of the things I do to relax is play games, but I'm finding Elite (a game that I love) to be disheartening.

The Frontier Expo gave me an anxiety attack and I left after the second talk having failed to meet anyone. Yet afterwards I heard all these people going on about the great community and stuff... I just felt alone.

I started listening to Lave Radio again (though the most recent rambling podcast made me think that's not likely) only to realise that Mobius that I'd been in since it basically started was now too big and they had a Facebook account and stuff... And they wanted me to fill in forms to join it. So I left the group.

I'd been recently playing in Open because I wanted to try and get some interaction with people and had had a couple of fun chats.

Then last night I was interdicted by a wing of two guys who proceeded to try and kill me. No request that I drop my cargo (or a scan to see if I had cargo). I have no bounties on my head and no faction allegiance. They just wanted to bully someone.

I escaped and after getting into Hyperspace dropped out into Solo (just as they interdicted me again). If I play Elite again it'll probably be in Solo.

I needed to post this somewhere because the anger and hurt I felt last night is still bubbling away. I love flying my space planes but I wish I could find this community people keep talking about.
 

Crash1099

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scimon said:
So. I've been feeling depressed recently. To the point that I've finally admitted it and start therapy. One of the things I do to relax is play games, but I'm finding Elite (a game that I love) to be disheartening.

The Frontier Expo gave me an anxiety attack and I left after the second talk having failed to meet anyone. Yet afterwards I heard all these people going on about the great community and stuff... I just felt alone.

I started listening to Lave Radio again (though the most recent rambling podcast made me think that's not likely) only to realise that Mobius that I'd been in since it basically started was now too big and they had a Facebook account and stuff... And they wanted me to fill in forms to join it. So I left the group.

I'd been recently playing in Open because I wanted to try and get some interaction with people and had had a couple of fun chats.

Then last night I was interdicted by a wing of two guys who proceeded to try and kill me. No request that I drop my cargo (or a scan to see if I had cargo). I have no bounties on my head and no faction allegiance. They just wanted to bully someone.

I escaped and after getting into Hyperspace dropped out into Solo (just as they interdicted me again). If I play Elite again it'll probably be in Solo.

I needed to post this somewhere because the anger and hurt I felt last night is still bubbling away. I love flying my space planes but I wish I could find this community people keep talking about.
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Relax. Go join a private group that allows no pvp. Meet fun people there. The world sucks nothing new.
 

Viking84

Viking84
Actionman2222 said:
Honestly? Take a break from the game, get out and join a church / club / gym. Even a walking or hiking club. Get out and about and meeting new people.
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Gotta say this sounds like a good solution (well not the curch part, organised cultism is not good for anyone). Players in Open cannot be relied on to behave in a civil manner simply because of the varying importance people put on interactions in a game. To some they treat this as they treat any social interaction - manners are important, don't attack someone without reason, and generally play nice (or at least play within the spirit of the game). To others this is simply a game and therefore anyone they encounter means nothing - they expect the other side to care as little as they do about these interactions.

When the two different kinds of players meet you are guaranteed a crappy experience. Hence why using a free-for-all game mode to find meaningful social interaction is a really bad idea. You might be lucky and meet like minded individuals, or you might be shot on sight for sport (or "the lulz"). That is the nature of Open at the moment, and as there are no signs of an Open PvE mode coming any time soon then that is how it will remain, regardless of crime and punishment mechanics.
 
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Noctover

Noctover
Im not depressed, but ED does make me depressed sometimes that i take more breaks than i play; it dosent help that the game feels empty, like no ones there, and even the AI isnt believable it just spawns and zips around doing nothing.

Play other games, or like others have said go out and join clubs to meet people :).
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
scimon said:
So. I've been feeling depressed recently. To the point that I've finally admitted it and start therapy. One of the things I do to relax is play games, but I'm finding Elite (a game that I love) to be disheartening.

The Frontier Expo gave me an anxiety attack and I left after the second talk having failed to meet anyone. Yet afterwards I heard all these people going on about the great community and stuff... I just felt alone.

I started listening to Lave Radio again (though the most recent rambling podcast made me think that's not likely) only to realise that Mobius that I'd been in since it basically started was now too big and they had a Facebook account and stuff... And they wanted me to fill in forms to join it. So I left the group.
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Your depression feeds into how you perceive everything.
I have been fighting the same thing for most of my life.
They could put me in a room full of nice chatty people wanting to have conversations with me and I would still feel utterly alone.
I would have liked to go to the Expo, but the mere fact that I would have to be in that crowd (even though they are like minded ED fans) and feel completely out of place and alone scared me. I know myself well enough to know I can't deal with that.

I'd been recently playing in Open because I wanted to try and get some interaction with people and had had a couple of fun chats.
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One reason I avoid open is to avoid people who want to chat. I just cannot chat. Just babbling about where I come from, where they come from, how long I/they have been playing the game etc etc .... I can't do it. I can't do chit chat. It makes me choke.

Then last night I was interdicted by a wing of two guys who proceeded to try and kill me. No request that I drop my cargo (or a scan to see if I had cargo). I have no bounties on my head and no faction allegiance. They just wanted to bully someone.

I escaped and after getting into Hyperspace dropped out into Solo (just as they interdicted me again). If I play Elite again it'll probably be in Solo.

I needed to post this somewhere because the anger and hurt I felt last night is still bubbling away. I love flying my space planes but I wish I could find this community people keep talking about.
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As far as the attack in open is concerned... don't take it personal.
You will find PvP minded people in Open (nothing wrong with that) and some of those are gankers and griefers (a lot wrong with that).
There will always be people who do not care about other people's fun.
They want to abuse others for their content (in games and in real life).
This is the condition of the human ape society. This is what we are.

On the other hand... you escaped, you survived.
Just consider it a deep space adventure you came out of as the victor.
 

Marra Morgan

Marra Morgan
scimon said:
So. I've been feeling depressed recently. To the point that I've finally admitted it and start therapy. One of the things I do to relax is play games, but I'm finding Elite (a game that I love) to be disheartening.

The Frontier Expo gave me an anxiety attack and I left after the second talk having failed to meet anyone. Yet afterwards I heard all these people going on about the great community and stuff... I just felt alone.

I started listening to Lave Radio again (though the most recent rambling podcast made me think that's not likely) only to realise that Mobius that I'd been in since it basically started was now too big and they had a Facebook account and stuff... And they wanted me to fill in forms to join it. So I left the group.

I'd been recently playing in Open because I wanted to try and get some interaction with people and had had a couple of fun chats.

Then last night I was interdicted by a wing of two guys who proceeded to try and kill me. No request that I drop my cargo (or a scan to see if I had cargo). I have no bounties on my head and no faction allegiance. They just wanted to bully someone.

I escaped and after getting into Hyperspace dropped out into Solo (just as they interdicted me again). If I play Elite again it'll probably be in Solo.

I needed to post this somewhere because the anger and hurt I felt last night is still bubbling away. I love flying my space planes but I wish I could find this community people keep talking about.
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Sounds like your choice of social filter wasn't suitable for the playstyle you want. There are many private groups who can probably offer what you're looking for :)
 

Pumabear8

Pumabear8
scimon said:
So. I've been feeling depressed recently. To the point that I've finally admitted it and start therapy. One of the things I do to relax is play games, but I'm finding Elite (a game that I love) to be disheartening.

The Frontier Expo gave me an anxiety attack and I left after the second talk having failed to meet anyone. Yet afterwards I heard all these people going on about the great community and stuff... I just felt alone.

I started listening to Lave Radio again (though the most recent rambling podcast made me think that's not likely) only to realise that Mobius that I'd been in since it basically started was now too big and they had a Facebook account and stuff... And they wanted me to fill in forms to join it. So I left the group.

I'd been recently playing in Open because I wanted to try and get some interaction with people and had had a couple of fun chats.

Then last night I was interdicted by a wing of two guys who proceeded to try and kill me. No request that I drop my cargo (or a scan to see if I had cargo). I have no bounties on my head and no faction allegiance. They just wanted to bully someone.

I escaped and after getting into Hyperspace dropped out into Solo (just as they interdicted me again). If I play Elite again it'll probably be in Solo.

I needed to post this somewhere because the anger and hurt I felt last night is still bubbling away. I love flying my space planes but I wish I could find this community people keep talking about.
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Confused here, I'm a member of Mobius private group, I've received no notification to join their facebook, I'd refuse anyway, but why leave the group?
 

John Tenzer

John Tenzer
I honestly had only good experiences in Mobius and think it was worth it filling in the application.
The facebook group is well-mannered and helpful and not mandatory.

Sure, not everyone of the players you meet while playing is willing to have a chat with you, but so is not everyone you meet in the streets in real life.

I think you should reconsider a reapplication to the group. From my point of view that PG saved the game for me.
 
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Deleted member 38366

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AFAIK Mobius is still restructuring its Groups since the original was full, but no Facebook required.

Just fill out this Form with the desired Group : https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1...o1nitvGjtYI1bFC-1G0P-hCKv-iA/viewform?c=0&w=1

Current Groups are :
MOBIUS PVE EURASIA - Europe/Africa Regional/Australia/New Zealand/Taiwan/Korea/China etc Regional
MOBIUS PVE - Americas/Canada/South America Regional
MOBIUS FACTIONS (BGS specific)

That should do the trick.
(all Details as of their FAQ)

Other than that, do stuff that you enjoy; at minimum avoid stuff you definitely do not enjoy. No need to add bad experiences to an already sub-par mood.
 
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Safepuppy

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Sorry to hear about your difficult times.
I've been signed off work for stress, so I'm playing ED to help relax, it's a good game for that.
Saying that, I went to founder's world to try out.a couple of different ships......and some players tried ganking me inside the station. Not nice but there you go, different people. So I play in solo around founder's. When you get further away you've got a better chance of meeting players like yourself (and me).
Don't take it personally, like another post says, some players just see targets instead of people.
Things get better. Get out there and enjoy the game.
Peace ☺
 

Rob At Work

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Anxiety - been there got the Tee shirt, not nice at all; get it sorted as best as you can & try not to analyse every damn thing (even Elite/Mobius) it feeds the condition
 

Enderby

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Sorry to hear of you troubles but I think that you could find a lot better places - and games - in which to get some human interaction.

I wish you good luck. :)
 

Whiterose

Whiterose
I often play in Mobius, and open, depending on what I am doing. My advice, although a long way off is to join the Distant Worlds 2 expedition. Everybody is very relaxed, and its nice to know when you do see another commander you can stop and have a chat without having one finger on the FSD. DW2 will have a discord group where you can pop in and have a chat.
 

c00ky1970

c00ky1970
The most important part of your post OP is that you recognize that you are depressed and that you are receiving therapy.

Elite may not be the ideal game for you to relax with as it can be a lonely game to play and as you have experienced other players in Open may see you as a nameless victim rather than a potential human to talk to.

Inara.cz may be more useful to find groups that have a good level of interaction - I play in Mobius but most CMDRs I "see" struggle to even to respond to an o7!

The hardest part will be down to you making contact with these player groups and forcing yourself to communicate with them, you may want to discuss this with your therapist as they can help you work towards this goal.

Concentrate on your therapy and you will find Elite a less solitary exiostence with time.

Good luck and fly safe CMDR!
 
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