Dedicated Elite VR "Appliance"

loribee

loribee
Hola,

has anyone given any thought about what it would take to make a dedicated Elite VR "Appliance" ? By that I mean an 'always on' setup where I literally hop into my rig, and pick up where I left off (in my case safely docked in a station)

It would likely be headless (i.e. no monitor) just the PC and the headset and gaming chair and HOTAS

In some ways, I wish the game (and the headsets) ran on Linux, because that way it would make it a lot easier to build pared-down dedicated boot-to-game environments
 

ziddan

Z
Back in the day you could replace the shell (explorer.exe and systray.eye?) on windows machines and it was as easy as changing a line in regedit or a configuration file, cant remember which.

If that is still an option im pretty sure a bit of batch scripting (and if need be, prerecorded mouse movements) would allow you to do that without needing linux support.
 

loribee

loribee
cool, it's definitely something I want to look into. I will probably start on it when my 8k Pimax shows up, then i can use my current 4k headset and an old PC to build out a prototype.
 

TorTorden_VR

T
Main problem might be running headless.

But I have done it with the vive and my i5 980ti setup.
So it could launch steamvr without me having to fire up the tv.

Oddly it involved making sure steam WOULD NOT boot up with windows and add a schedule event for starting steamvr on boot.
I could then use the steamvr menu to start programs or desktop view to do things.
Haven't seen it yet but I don't know of any way to auto start direcy into ED without at least clicking the play button on the launcher.
But it should absolutely be possible since this is precisely how oculus does it with it's native ED install.

I suppose you could run a batch file to start at least the launcher and some other macro solution to move mouse pointer to the play button coordinates and click.

But it would honestly be so much easier to just have a screen with a little keyboard and mouse or one of those combined ones with a touch pad.
For starting up, managing software updates etc. for any software update notification would probably disrupt the house of macros.
 
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zarrazee

zarrazee
If I was a single chap, without wife and kids, I'd defo be doing that for RP purposes. I'd be docking at stations / landing on planets and always keep my PC on and Elite running.
 
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loribee

loribee
I just bought a headless ghost (best name for a product ever!!) that might help with the issues Tor mentioned -- actually it's a nice little gadget to have if you've got VR as it allows the pc to think its got another physical monitor connected to the system when there is not one, and that now shows up as a desktop in Virtual desktop and bigscreen - that way I can make a smaller resolution desktop inside VR and have programs run on that - i think you can also use it with VR overlays and Elite as well

i am hoping to do most (if not all) of this with powershell, the only issue I can see is to have it automatically launch Horizons without having to use the Elite Launcher - that one might be a feature request to FDEV
 

TorTorden_VR

T
loribee said:
i am hoping to do most (if not all) of this with powershell, the only issue I can see is to have it automatically launch Horizons without having to use the Elite Launcher - that one might be a feature request to FDEV
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I have no doubt it should be.
Especially after the ghost.
I had completely forgot about them.

Again I haven't found out how to directly launch horizons by simply launching the launcher.
BUT I know it is possible since this is precisely what oculus library does when it launches a native oculus install of ED.
If you take the hmd off during playing that version you can still see the launcher process active.
So it is used by even oculus.
 
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ziddan

Z
If this still works this might be the answer:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Launcher-It-s-possible-without-side-effects*

You capture what the launcher sends to the game executable and then put that in a script which can launch the game instead.

Since i dont understand scripts more advanced than simple batch files id be wary of running something like this tho since i guess it in theory could send your username and password somewhere.
 
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Gaffa

Gaffa
G'day all,
I just have a second PC with the Oculus hooked up to it. When I want to play in VR, I flash it up.
 

ziddan

Z
Im not a native english speaker so is "flash it up" a way of saying "turn that computer on" or something technical i im not getting?
 

777Driver

777Driver
loribee said:
Hola,

has anyone given any thought about what it would take to make a dedicated Elite VR "Appliance" ? By that I mean an 'always on' setup where I literally hop into my rig, and pick up where I left off (in my case safely docked in a station)

It would likely be headless (i.e. no monitor) just the PC and the headset and gaming chair and HOTAS

In some ways, I wish the game (and the headsets) ran on Linux, because that way it would make it a lot easier to build pared-down dedicated boot-to-game environments
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I just leave my rig running 24/7 no one else is using the machine, ED is constantly running, only restarts for server updates. My laptop is used for everything else. Maybe I am misunderstanding you, whats the problem with just having a dedicated PC/room for gaming if you have the space?
 

loribee

loribee
777Driver said:
I just leave my rig running 24/7 no one else is using the machine, ED is constantly running, only restarts for server updates. My laptop is used for everything else. Maybe I am misunderstanding you, whats the problem with just having a dedicated PC/room for gaming if you have the space?
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Hi

I use my main pc for everything including elite, both in and out of vr and Elite is the only game I play in VR on my PC.

I was kicking around the idea to have a dedicated rig for Elite running 24/7 that I can hop in and out of quickly. The idea of making it an ‘appliance’ — something that needs minimal attention and just does that one job - kinda like a web server or file server is an interesting one to me.

It would be something like a black box with a power cord and a cable going to my headset and two usb connections to the HOTAS almost like a self-contained simulator - stripped down OS.
 
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Flapdrol1337

F
With many regular games you can leave them open and use sleep instead of shutdown, they'll be running when you start agian. Not sure if that works with elite and vr though.
 

TorTorden_VR

T
Flapdrol1337 said:
With many regular games you can leave them open and use sleep instead of shutdown, they'll be running when you start agian. Not sure if that works with elite and vr though.
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Probably works, but mileage may vary.

I might be showing my age here, but I just can't escape my OCD of when I'm not actually using my PC, it is OFF 100%.
Almost to the point where I unplug it from the mains.
 

TorTorden_VR

T
ziddan said:
If this still works this might be the answer:

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Launcher-It-s-possible-without-side-effects*

You capture what the launcher sends to the game executable and then put that in a script which can launch the game instead.

Since i dont understand scripts more advanced than simple batch files id be wary of running something like this tho since i guess it in theory could send your username and password somewhere.
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Just tested this and it still works.

It's a great way to have multiple accounts too cause I now have a desktop shortcut for each and no need to relog between the launcher or having multiple installs.
 
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