Just don't get it

For the lulz. For the salty tears on the forums. For the rage quits. For the infamy. Plenty of reasons. You may not like them, but they are legitimate and within the game mechanics. And it makes some people feel better about themselves. It's called projection, and it's normal to do if you're in pain. And VERY common in PvP games.

Fly safe bud. :)

May have to do with the game itself also, flying around in an entire galaxy, with spaceships in great numbers, makes it somewhat impersonal.

I remember playing Red Dead Redemption online and sometimes you'd just meet a player riding along a desert trail, he'd tip his hat and say "Howdy" as we passed each other.

Of course others started shooting at you from a mile away, but since there were generally few players on a single map some thought was given to upsetting any single one.

Once I parked my character on spawn point, in the middle of field somewhere since I had something else to do, some guy found me and kept riding circles around me killing me over and over.

I watched him while going about my business, then resumed my place at the controls and waited for him to come around again, I drew, rolled and shot him off the zebra he was riding.

I had an headset lying around and could listen in on his conversation - he shouted at some of his mates that were doing missions nearby "The B**** killed me, .." and pretty soon I had an entire posse after me that chased me all the way to Mexico, I had to join a gang myself to get rid of them :D
 
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Ahh but he quit the group because he had to fill out a form to join the group.

Sensors detect a bridge recently vacated.

Depression has a tendency to sap energy, and people who are very depressed often have difficulty with seemingly mundane tasks. Its one of the problematic parts of it. Dont immediately assume someone is trolling, espescially not in this case...
 
I'm sorry for your situation, however posting here about your feelings regarding working game mechanics and your anger at players actions is a bit of a non-isues TBF. Open is what FD made of it. Comms are almost non functional and player interaction has devolved into Spay and Pray with heavy weapons :). The community as a whole is ok but in-game you are more likeley to meet a numpty or two due to the inablity to even chat easily, I really dont know what they were thinking, or maybe they took the Ubisoft route and decided to let the players fix it. Either way ED's communication is shockingly bad.

You found the thread worthwhile enough to post on at least twice my man :p He found like minded people, and hopefully good advice so not a "non-issue" thread at all.
 
So. I've been feeling depressed recently. To the point that I've finally admitted it and start therapy. One of the things I do to relax is play games, but I'm finding Elite (a game that I love) to be disheartening.

The Frontier Expo gave me an anxiety attack and I left after the second talk having failed to meet anyone. Yet afterwards I heard all these people going on about the great community and stuff... I just felt alone.

I started listening to Lave Radio again (though the most recent rambling podcast made me think that's not likely) only to realise that Mobius that I'd been in since it basically started was now too big and they had a Facebook account and stuff... And they wanted me to fill in forms to join it. So I left the group.

I'd been recently playing in Open because I wanted to try and get some interaction with people and had had a couple of fun chats.

Then last night I was interdicted by a wing of two guys who proceeded to try and kill me. No request that I drop my cargo (or a scan to see if I had cargo). I have no bounties on my head and no faction allegiance. They just wanted to bully someone.

I escaped and after getting into Hyperspace dropped out into Solo (just as they interdicted me again). If I play Elite again it'll probably be in Solo.

I needed to post this somewhere because the anger and hurt I felt last night is still bubbling away. I love flying my space planes but I wish I could find this community people keep talking about.

Right, First of all, sorry about the rambling podcast, mind you I always thought our rambling was part of the charm ;-) . I'm wondering why you left the Mobius group because if your already a member in game, then you shouldn't have needed to fill in any forms.

If you'd turned up to the expo alone, then its understandable why you'd feel a bit overwhelmed, especially if the anxiety got the better of you during the day. It sounds as if you got 'Seal Clubbed'. It's happened to me a couple of times in Open and I'm afraid (even with the new Pilots Federation Bounties) that it is a risk you have to take when flying in Open.

Might I recommend that you join one of the discord channels for the various player groups and if they've got a private group; request to join it. I've always found that E : D is better when played in wings / multi-crew than solo but even talking to people over the discord while playing the game makes you feel less isolated. I would also recommend what others have said, taking a break for a week or so and come back again. It can make the game seem fresh again.

Wish you well with the therapy, it can help.
 
I do not need to take up anything with anybody to have an opinion on ganking.
But ganking is not intended game play. That much I can tell you.
Never heard of having a personal responsibility for your own behaviour?



You can get away with a lot in life. That does not mean you must treat others that way. You have a personal responsibility for your behaviour.



No, it is not that innocent. I have listened to their justifications and I have watched several of their videos.
Having been the victim of bullying as a child for many years I recognize the disgusting stench of the twisted mindset and attitude of a bully from a mile away.
Just go watch these videos. There is a sickness in them.

I have no official reps left so you get a private +1 from me.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. These peoples actions are based on the knowledge that they spoil, anger or hurt other humans when griefing or ganking.
For them forcing themselves on other players, that's the point.

They are basically the fratboys of the online community.
 
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Best of luck, OP.

I think something to really take from this thread is that depression and the various associated mental health issues such as anxiety are very common, manageable and usually not permanent. I know many people, myself included, that have been through dark periods. Sometimes brought on by external factors in life, sometimes seemingly for no reason.

My best advice is always to maintain a "fighting atttitude". Acknowledge the negativity, separate it from yourself and your thoughts, and even though it won't make things magically better, just being able to say "screw these thoughts, I WILL get better" can ultimately help a lot. Then, of course finding positive ways to occupy your time can help. Glad to see you're getting professional help and hopefully the resources are good wherever you are.

As for the ED aspect, there are many great players and communities out there but few of them hang out in open. There are BGS groups, exploration groups, PP and BH groups, and much more. Mobius is a good start and to be honest just engaging on the forums will allow you to meet new players and interact with them, which is usually a positive experience. The userbase is quite varied and the most vocal on the forums are not indicative of the entire base.
 
Good luck, OP.

Immersing myself in Elite helped me enormously with a depression bout last year, but I totally get your frustration with the game at present.

Elite will get better, and so will you. Keep fighting.
 
I was not in a great place at that point. It does not help me act rationally.

For what it's worth, when I (and my wife) joined Mobius I didn't fill out anything at all, I just sent a join request from the Elite menu. Can't remember how long it took (a day or so) but we were signed up.
 
Right, First of all, sorry about the rambling podcast, mind you I always thought our rambling was part of the charm ;-) . I'm wondering why you left the Mobius group because if your already a member in game, then you shouldn't have needed to fill in any forms.

On the podcast I guess it's the nature of the live recording. When you're talking about the ships at Lave or trying to dock when watching a video it kind of loses something in the post live show audio only format. At least I've stopped wanting to shout loudly at you guys (which I tended to do a few years back when you seemed to have got the wrong end of the stick on announcements so that's nice).

Here's the Mobius story. I joined way back in the day. Because dumb PVP was dumb back then. (Can't they just release Star Citizen already?) Then I listened to the interview with the organiser and realised there was a lot of work going into it and also there was a face book group. I went to join the Facebook group (on my lunch break) and they asked if I'd registered on the site (which I hadn't because there was no site when I registered)... at which point the whole social anxiety general depression kicked in full whack and when I got home I just decided to leave the group all together.

As I said. Not rational.

This thread has helped a lot, because while there's a few sociopaths it's generally been nice people. Which is good. I've got back onto Inara and fond a wing that looks interesting that I've applied to join. We'll see.
 
On the podcast I guess it's the nature of the live recording. When you're talking about the ships at Lave or trying to dock when watching a video it kind of loses something in the post live show audio only format. At least I've stopped wanting to shout loudly at you guys (which I tended to do a few years back when you seemed to have got the wrong end of the stick on announcements so that's nice).

Here's the Mobius story. I joined way back in the day. Because dumb PVP was dumb back then. (Can't they just release Star Citizen already?) Then I listened to the interview with the organiser and realised there was a lot of work going into it and also there was a face book group. I went to join the Facebook group (on my lunch break) and they asked if I'd registered on the site (which I hadn't because there was no site when I registered)... at which point the whole social anxiety general depression kicked in full whack and when I got home I just decided to leave the group all together.

As I said. Not rational.

This thread has helped a lot, because while there's a few sociopaths it's generally been nice people. Which is good. I've got back onto Inara and fond a wing that looks interesting that I've applied to join. We'll see.

Just a thought have you considered joining the Hutton Truckers? We do a lot of Play with Player stuff and then there's the madness of their live show on Thursday Nights. Personally I join in the BGS stuff of theirs and any events that I can actually make. You still need to join the facebook group, but the questions are fairly simple. i.e. what do Thargoids pull you out of, and who is Alvin :)
 
Oh wow. Arm chair psychology at its best.
Couldn't be farther from the truth tbh.

Could be true in some cases - there are people like that out there, those who thrive on the misery of others for whatever reason. May not be but the smallest minority, but I promise there is at least one.
 
Embrace your loneliness, own it, be proud you don't 'need' anyone, but keep a circle of close friends to keep you sane. I'm a lone wolf and grateful for it every day, I have a lot of acquaintances (most people who know me would say I'm outgoing, but it's a total illusion, I never want to go out, I'm much happier alone), but only a couple of friends and that's the way I like it. I also am badly affected by 'unfairness' wherever I see it, it boils me up. When I was a bit younger I found a way of dealing with that, just tell yourself that people like that will never be happy either, they'll always be empty and one day they'll reconsider the way they've lived. It might be next week, or it might be on their death bed, but I have to believe that all of that comes back around, even if only in their own minds.

Good luck. I play mostly in solo because I have limited time, a 15 minute fight is something that is rarely in budget outside of a weekend.

In all seriousness, have you tried World of Warcraft? The best years of my (28 years of gaming) gaming life, join a good and FRIENDLY guild, it's both a more hardcore AND a more relaxed game than Elite at the same time, and it truly caters to EVERY playstyle. My wife played WoW, she was a good mage in raids after I trained her up, but her main goal? She wanted a 1% acievement, the Iron Chef. And she got it. Less than 100,000 plyers out of 12.5 MILLION had that achievement when she got it, and it involved traveling all over azeroth buying rare recipes and hunting rare game to make great food, which we ate when raiding if needed. She was the guild chef, and since she played a fire mage, we used to joke that if she used fire magic to cook it, that was cheating. Really good days of feeling truly bonded with a group of players, going through hardships in raids and using our various professions to help each other out, very rewarding.
 
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In all seriousness, have you tried World of Warcraft? The best years of my (28 years of gaming) gaming life, join a good and FRIENDLY guild, it's both a more hardcore AND a more relaxed game than Elite at the same time, and it truly caters to EVERY playstyle. My wife played WoW, she was a good mage in raids after I trained her up, but her main goal? She wanted a 1% acievement, the Iron Chef. And she got it. Less than 100,000 plyers out of 12.5 MILLION had that achievement when she got it, and it involved traveling all over azeroth buying rare recipes and hunting rare game to make great food, which we ate when raiding if needed. She was the guild chef, and since she played a fire mage, we used to joke that if she used fire magic to cook it, that was cheating. Really good days of feeling truly bonded with a group of players, going through hardships in raids and using our various professions to help each other out, very rewarding.

Plus rep for the story of the best fire mage chef this side of Azeroth.
 
In all seriousness, have you tried World of Warcraft? The best years of my (28 years of gaming) gaming life, join a good and FRIENDLY guild, it's both a more hardcore AND a more relaxed game than Elite at the same time, and it truly caters to EVERY playstyle. My wife played WoW, she was a good mage in raids after I trained her up, but her main goal? She wanted a 1% acievement, the Iron Chef. And she got it. Less than 100,000 plyers out of 12.5 MILLION had that achievement when she got it, and it involved traveling all over azeroth buying rare recipes and hunting rare game to make great food, which we ate when raiding if needed. She was the guild chef, and since she played a fire mage, we used to joke that if she used fire magic to cook it, that was cheating. Really good days of feeling truly bonded with a group of players, going through hardships in raids and using our various professions to help each other out, very rewarding.

Those were the days. I miss all that at times, and think I might re-up my sub, then decide not to. The transfer costs to the server where folks I know now play are ridiculously stupid, and I've absolutely zero interest in starting from zero and losing all of my rare crafting recipes/patterns. :/
 
For what it's worth, when I (and my wife) joined Mobius I didn't fill out anything at all, I just sent a join request from the Elite menu. Can't remember how long it took (a day or so) but we were signed up.

Same, but it's all different now. Back in the day, there was just one group - Mobius. Now there are loads, and you have to fill out a form on their website to get in.

Makes one kinda wish for a proper PvE server. There's clearly a demand for it.
 
Same, but it's all different now. Back in the day, there was just one group - Mobius. Now there are loads, and you have to fill out a form on their website to get in.

Makes one kinda wish for a proper PvE server. There's clearly a demand for it.

Interesting. When was this? I think we've been signed up for a few months now, but less than a year. We're in Mobius PVE (although I'm 99% in Open as a rule)
 
Those were the days. I miss all that at times, and think I might re-up my sub, then decide not to. The transfer costs to the server where folks I know now play are ridiculously stupid, and I've absolutely zero interest in starting from zero and losing all of my rare crafting recipes/patterns. :/

I was really hardcore, my wife will never let me do that again, I main tanked (Bear and Tankadin) as well as Moonkin DPS when needed, for a famous guild. When that became too much, I joined a quiet casual guild that my wife and her sister were in, in order to have a relaxed 'retirement' from heroic raiding, but nooooooo, a few of them learned about my past and after that it was 'Foxy, you must teach us!!', 6 months later I was the guildmaster and they were all Kingslayers. ;)

When I handed that guild down to one of the better players, he really took it forward, turned it into a proper hardcore raiding guild and they are now the best guild on their server (or at least they were a couple of years ago, I haven't been following recently).
 
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