Wow. First time in 3.5 years I think: That´s it for Elite: Dangerous

iFred

I
Welp.

Long:

The promised "narrative" for 2.4 seems still yet to come.

We saw 4 CG´s that were boring as hell. We saw a god-mode nerf of the weapons because "Thargoids adapt". We saw a couple of USS´s to optional encounter Thargoids. And we saw the 109th revision of the mission system with a tremendous bad quality.

Especially after the FX2017 which I attended I was still confident that something will happen this year - but it looks like that´s not the case. Frontier didn´t manage to keep the expectations up in my case - and I don´t believe (with the roadmap in mind) that Elite will make it beyond 2018.

Several reasons for it:

Development has slowed down. I spoke with several Devs on FX17 and they all stated: Yes, it has slowed down, and yes, the reason is the tremendous complexity of the game - and in it´s current state it is still a quality desaster in my eyes.

Everything that has to be done has been done (Exploration, Trading, Shooting, PP, even CQC) and I have problems finding reasons to fire up the game.

2.4 in general turns out to be a desaster and - that´s what most people forget - it´s almost 1 year late. Regarding the developement of the game: We saw the first Thargoid animations back in February. This means that the main work was done last year. This also means that FD´s performance throughout the year was very low.

If I have to speculate: Elite has been abandoned and it is just kept alive by a small team. I hope I am wrong.


TL;DR: FD didnt manage to deliver and that´s just frustrating. 2.4 is - currently - a joke.

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askavir

askavir
I agree that 2.4, so far, has been kind of "meh", and it's already piling up on another update, 2.3, which was also a complete "meh" to put it mildly.

But we know that there is still the rest of 2.4 to come, whatever it is, so how about we first see the rest of it before casting final judgement?
 
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evanevery

evanevery
askavir said:
I agree that 2.4, so far, has been kind of "meh", and it's already piling up on another update, 2.3, which was also a complete "meh" to put it mildly.

But we know that there is still the rest of 2.4 to come, whatever it is, so how about we first see the rest of it before casting final judgement?
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The trick is to never actually "release the rest of it" so expectations can continually be deferred and declared premature. We are already there!
 

iFred

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evanevery said:
The trick is to never actually "release the rest of it" so expectations can continually be deferred and declared premature. We are already there!
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Jep. But we had 4 years of this:

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And to be honest: I am tired of waiting and having expectations.
 

Lightspeed

Lightspeed
iFred said:
Welp.

Long:

The promised "narrative" for 2.4 seems still yet to come.

We saw 4 CG´s that were boring as hell. We saw a god-mode nerf of the weapons because "Thargoids adapt". We saw a couple of USS´s to optional encounter Thargoids. And we saw the 109th revision of the mission system with a tremendous bad quality.

Especially after the FX2017 which I attended I was still confident that something will happen this year - but it looks like that´s not the case. Frontier didn´t manage to keep the expectations up in my case - and I don´t believe (with the roadmap in mind) that Elite will make it beyond 2018.

Several reasons for it:

Development has slowed down. I spoke with several Devs on FX17 and they all stated: Yes, it has slowed down, and yes, the reason is the tremendous complexity of the game - and in it´s current state it is still a quality desaster in my eyes.

Everything that has to be done has been done (Exploration, Trading, Shooting, PP, even CQC) and I have problems finding reasons to fire up the game.

2.4 in general turns out to be a desaster and - that´s what most people forget - it´s almost 1 year late. Regarding the developement of the game: We saw the first Thargoid animations back in February. This means that the main work was done last year. This also means that FD´s performance throughout the year was very low.

If I have to speculate: Elite has been abandoned and it is just kept alive by a small team. I hope I am wrong.


TL;DR: FD didnt manage to deliver and that´s just frustrating. 2.4 is - currently - a joke.

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You attended FX17 and spoke with Devs .... but did you attend the presentation that we saw live ... you know, about 'Beyond' and the revision to several features next year, yet how the 'majority of the team will be working on Q4' ?

What was your take on that?
 

han

han
Can agree that the start of 2.4 hasn't been super exciting, hopefully they'll add some cool stuff and some new gameplay to the story soon.
 

zarking

Z
Well....
The devs said development was slower than they wanted due to complexity, not that it was slowing down.

Yes, it's likely that most of horizons was done over a year ago, maybe not multi crew which I think was a nightmare to get working (purely my guess), but deploying it is still a big job.

However, 2.4 isn't dead (despite my big moan thread), the majority of it is still to come, it's just going slower and more, one directional, than I'd hoped.

The plans for next year are good. We all moaned that we wanted more depth to the gameplay for exploring, mining, wings, player groups, better in game tools. They're giving us that. However they still can't win as we also want space legs, atmospheric landings and a whole horde of entirely new features at the same time lol.
And, if you peek over at star citizen, with just one game to work on and hundreds of millions of pounds to do it with, you'll see that they still haven't delivered a full game with some of those features but on a vastly smaller scale (in terms of one system versus a whole galaxy). That's not me having a dig at star citizen (well maybe a little), it just goes to show how much work is involved in an open world, mmo, space sim with all the trimmings we've come to expect or take for granted.

So, cut them some slack :) let's see how it goes.
But please FD, move along 2.4 now lol, we're ready for more ;)
 
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Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
Just curious could you name devs saying it has slowed down? Because when I asked I heard nothing of such sort.

Also in FX you should have picked signals how excited devs are about future. I wonder why you haven't.

Not sure which part of FD saying Thargoids will be optional at first people have missed.
 
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Joe Cool

Joe Cool
I'm an original (80's) Elite player. The latest incarnation is awesome on so many levels and I lurve it to death BUT I now find myself abandoning my 100% spare time dedication to ED and returning to online poker.
This is a potential problem as I'm no game tart (and online poker tends to cost me money 'cause I suck).
 

Serpentis Ictis

Serpentis Ictis
It always makes me laugh, the threads where the main theme is something about how they are disappointed...

It all depends on what you want to do with the game... If you're living for the next big thing, you will be perpetually disappointed, ED isn't the game for the now generation. If, like me, you play a few hours a night, a few times a week as a bit of an escape and an alternative to Soap TV, then you will be constantly amazed.

FDev are trying to deliver, and to be fair, it's mostly good, to very good. Keep up the faith! It's a midern space computer game from a game we played as kids!
 

lokvette

lokvette
Intresting times ahead, no its true they keep telling us its coming...

What and when who knows, 2.4 for me has been ok some nice QOL stuff as for the rest off it.. meh.
 
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