Except that it is a computer game. It is not really an entire milky way. And CNN has 4000 exployees working just the news, FD has 40x less for the entire game.
Common sense people, use it or lose it...
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GALNET: NEWS! Really NEWS ?
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Except that it is a computer game. It is not really an entire milky way. And CNN has 4000 exployees working just the news, FD has 40x less for the entire game.
Common sense people, use it or lose it...
obviously, im just saying that its not a valid point
anyway im not asking for earth news times all the inhabited planets, I would just appreciate some procedural stuff like, 'war heats up in [system name here]' or something like that. just to make it feel more alive and give an entire galaxy's worth of news more than 1 report every 2 days
There are hundreds of potential "reporters" all willing to work for the trivial price of getting something published.
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/381404-GalNet-postponing-Community-Submissions
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https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/381404-GalNet-postponing-Community-Submissions
Riiiiight. I was in the pleiades when 2,4 launched and it was packed with cmdrs. Its almost back to 2.3 levels because 'some cmdrs' realize there is nothing to do beyond the first few hours of content. What exactly are you doing there, right now, that is so amazingly exciting that 'some of us' have missed? The anti-lockdown thingy has been useful for exactly one time for me, when I was hyperdicted, and in reality I could have just let it freeze me. The 'content' of the last three weeks saved me a whoppin' 30 seconds, thats it. Cool man! Amazing!
Its totally irrelevant we knew nothing, what is relevant is that so far we've got just a USS. Most of us are not entertained for months by a USS. Pretty much everyone agrees that stuff needs to happen to get things going, except apparently you who feels this has been amazeballs.Yes, I am, to repeat, confident cool stuff will happen. But thats no excuse to white knight the meager content of 2.4 so far. Honestly, if this was SC you'd be complaining the heck out of it, but now its ED you'll defend this hill to the end...
But stuff will happen. First stage has been done, weapons have been introduced, Thargoids too.
Or I am missing something special?
Please show me some miraculous MMO who have pulled this off? Some context please.
Also ED is real game. I evaluate it on actual 'I play it and what I see in there is what I get' basis.
As already mentioned, that stuff get's posted in the local news at each station (unless it is a major event) The issue I have with Galnet is how it is presented, would work much better if it was presented more like a webpage. The current layout (Station menu and Galnet) Forces you to scroll through traffic reports/power play updates and a whole bunch of junk before you get to anything interesting.
A good example is the Herald, normally buried away under reports.
Lugh was essentially 100% player generated content, at a time when Frontier was willing to work closely with the few player groups at the time. Problem is, player groups mushroomed like mad, and Frontier couldn't afford to increase their community management staff, let alone the PR nightmare waiting to happen once the inevitable accusations of favoritism started to happen.
Frontier really should've d voted more development time to creatingbtools for players to inject their own content into the game, rather than manually inserting it for them, one CG at a time.
But FD also noted why it happened - that they are overburdened and they reorganize GalNet processing along with introducing GN audio.
Funny story how people jump to possibility to blame FD for favouritism anyway. And then get blamed for not working with groups.
It is almost like people just want to complain or something.
That is certainly an interesting option, and I wouldn't mind seeing FD replace the 'lots of wars in the following systems' post by more PG created stories about specific wars.
Yes, you are missing something, but its common sense and not special, and dozens of people keep telling you it. So I can only assume you intentionally 'miss it'. Which is frankly somewhat annoying. 2.4 took a rather long time to come, so people expected stuff to happen faster. Its not a bizarre idea. Yes, we got the weapons. Cool. Now move on already. The entire pace has been so slow its fallen flat on its face for many, many people. People leave the pleiades because it has become stale and boring. It doesnt feel exciting, nothing is happening. How much simpler must people put it? Its not a 'miracle' to have something happen, its the very purpose of this patch. It was extremely light on QoL content, Thargoids are 99% of it and the last few weeks virtually nothing happened.
So whatever FD has planned for whenever should happen now. Or rather two weeks ago. Please stop with saying everything is cool and amazing, it really doesn't help. FD recently acknowledged on this board that the pace may need to be upped. There is no point in defending this 'just because'.
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Yes of course, however I was comparing the level of storytelling involved for a local event like Lugh (which captured the imagination!) and THE BIG STORY of an alien invasion. Lugh was done really well, people waiting on tenterhooks for the next installment on galnet. What's happened? where will it go? Who will win? It was an excellent integration of player activity, Galnet Storytelling and Community Goals. It's a valid counter example to what has happened to date in 2.4. FD can and have done this kind of storytelling before and have done it much better.
2/3 stories a week for a galactic emergency...... as I said, thin.
maybe we should have station/system specific news sites, next to galnet. a bit like the old games would have multiple newspapers but this time it would be only available in some systems
Did you watch the twitch stream yesterday? News, singing, the works! (Well, not much in the way of news, though there's supposed to be something tomorrow) - and the singing was cool.
All those wanting more news: When you get up in the morning say to yourself in the mirror "Thargoid threat high, feds say be alert, imperials say 'on your guard'". 'cos that all you'll get if FD started spamming Galnet - how many days before it gets boring do you think?
OTOH I am attempting to keep a history of when stuff happens in 2.4, and it's notable that there's been a big fall-off recently, something does need to happen - though I'd rather something new in-game, rather than just a galnet from Halsey about the 'goids eating all the slaves.
Think everyone should probably hold their horses until motherships actually start creating a threat. So far we've had a couple of freighters destroyed, some SDC geeks claiming a great victory, and a few scout ships beaming up escape pods. Not exactly end of day's quite yet..
Yes, it is bizarre, because few months *before* The Return FD signaled about slow reveal of Thargoids, while indicating we will able to fight Thargoids from day one.
I think some should check their expectations when devs actually communicate things. But then again, as I said, I might not getting something.
Majority of casual players haven't even touched them.
So what?
It won't be constant excitement.
No, they said that pace might be off for some people. They didn't say they will speed it up.
I am not defending it. I personally like the pace. It might be to do with reason that I have time to play ED maybe once a week - way majority of players play the game.
Also I pointed out that I think that people feel it is too slow because there's not much context given what's happening. GalNet can't serve this, local news and NPC chitchat could.
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The presentation is an issue alright. Take the recent status reports for example (imho the one useful bit of GalNet left): they just give you a plain list of system names that are a pain to do anything with. Rather than being dumb static text content, couldn't these be appended/sorted with your current distance to these systems? And be selectable with "show on galaxy map" / "show system map" options? Heck, when these reports are about famine/outbreak, couldn't local commodity prices for the critical items at the time of the report be published?
FD didnt communicate that nothing would happen for weeks, you'll just defend anything that happens with that 'defense'. This not a slow pace, thats the absence of a pace. We're heading towards two months with almost nothing but a few versions of a USS and a handful of modules with zero reason to use them. People are disappointed and your response is 'so what'?
Cool man. Have fun, this is just too bizarre an 'argument' to even continue.
Some people are disappointed ED have slow gameplay. Some people like it. Different things to different people. Can't serve them all.
Galnet poses an interesting problem.
FD use it for story driven narrative stuff and a few standardised reports.
For this it is reasonably useful but could undoubtedly be improved in various ways.
Still, this is fine but, as said, leaves the rest of the galaxy feeling a little dry.
There are local news reports, had you noticed? Perhaps a mechanism to promote these to Galnet on occasion ought to be a thing. These, I'm pretty sure, are generated on the fly when you are in system but perhaps a way to have these flagged up would be of note. Also it might be worth adding a bit more complexity too them and allow short term story arcs relating to inter-factional activity. This would help feed in to those Galnet summary reports too perhaps. It is one thing to hear several systems are having outbreaks, it is another to promote stories from one (or more) of those systems showing how it happened, the consequences and talking about relief efforts...
FD use it for story driven narrative stuff and a few standardised reports.
For this it is reasonably useful but could undoubtedly be improved in various ways.
Still, this is fine but, as said, leaves the rest of the galaxy feeling a little dry.
There are local news reports, had you noticed? Perhaps a mechanism to promote these to Galnet on occasion ought to be a thing. These, I'm pretty sure, are generated on the fly when you are in system but perhaps a way to have these flagged up would be of note. Also it might be worth adding a bit more complexity too them and allow short term story arcs relating to inter-factional activity. This would help feed in to those Galnet summary reports too perhaps. It is one thing to hear several systems are having outbreaks, it is another to promote stories from one (or more) of those systems showing how it happened, the consequences and talking about relief efforts...
No, the issue is that there isn't enough to report on. Be honest, we're now heading towards two months of 2.4 and so far we've basically had a few variants of a USS. I am pretty sure things will ramp up quite dramatically
Gawd, some people cant discuss a game without resorting to baseless ad-hominems...
I apologize to EagleBoy, it was an unnecessary and awful ad hominem indeed, I'm sorry.
That said, it's far from baseless…
Now, to your point.
GalNet is stale, boring, lacks presentation (for example, we should be able to access it on the go), too limited and outdated compared to Reddit.
Ok, now I feel like I'm discussing
Yeah but when the majority of the vocal people complain about something, it may be changed.
And that argument that "forums posters don't represent the majority of players", it's baseless since feedback only comes from those who provide it, here, on Reddit, Steam or any other forum.
I am not sure what you mean with 'on the go'? It is available in-game if that is what you mean. But it definitely needs a search function, for example. Then again, the Coded + voice spoken updates they announced sound like FD is aware of it.
I am not saying people complaining about speed of story does not have a point. It is as valid feedback as mine. It is up to FD to figure out how to solve that challenge. That's why they get big bucks or so they say.
Also if complains about 'slow' story have detailed information or criticism, FD will take it gladly. They aren't, as far as I have seen, fans of 'popular opinion'. They have voted on some of features but they have been very wary about doing it on regular basis.
Also no offence taken. We are just gamers discussing gamer things. Of course we will have loud arguments. That's given.