Thats without doubt the weakest argument you could possibly use. You can literally say that about anything. We've had a glacially paced story since december 2014. That was supposed to change with 2.4. So far it hasn't, so we've gotten very few QoL changes and a continuation of the story line. That never was used as way to 'sell' a patch, so essentially right now 2.4 barely exists as a thing. Which you may find cool and awesome, but 'some cmrds' expecting something after the rather disappointing MC update.
GALNET: NEWS! Really NEWS ?
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Thats without doubt the weakest argument you could possibly use. You can literally say that about anything. We've had a glacially paced story since december 2014. That was supposed to change with 2.4. So far it hasn't, so we've gotten very few QoL changes and a continuation of the story line. That never was used as way to 'sell' a patch, so essentially right now 2.4 barely exists as a thing. Which you may find cool and awesome, but 'some cmrds' expecting something after the rather disappointing MC update.
Nothing of player consequence EVER makes it on Galnet. It’s garbage. Ignore it.
They have missed every single player event of significance in the last few months (Ross 128, Reieni, the Lave war) thus Galnet is basically completely irrelevant. There were more people fighting in those events I listed than your typical boring CG. But it was never reported by frontier.
Reddit will usually have everything that’s really happening in the galaxy, and the ‘fun police’ can’t moderate it.
They have missed every single player event of significance in the last few months (Ross 128, Reieni, the Lave war) thus Galnet is basically completely irrelevant. There were more people fighting in those events I listed than your typical boring CG. But it was never reported by frontier.
Reddit will usually have everything that’s really happening in the galaxy, and the ‘fun police’ can’t moderate it.
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In ship radios would be awesome. They already have it in a lot of driving games and GTA, probably even more that I haven't played.
Point is, it'd be nice as we fly around to listen to some sort of radio station, even if it was on a loop.
More like a heartfelt cry to stop ignoring the fun things your players are actually doing, and stop trying to cram Colonia CG’s and boring aliens down our throats.
The Lave War - Lave radio versus some of the biggest names in the Alliance. A LOT of people participated and it was fun. To this day Lave Radio still has a few rabid fans running an insurgency there. That sounds awesome. And fun. But what did Galnet say about it? Yeah I thought so:
Ross 128 - this was a blast. And it’s still under Alliance control. The fed rats couldn’t take it back. You have a major fed permit system that’s been under green control for months..
Reinei - Huge fight between Winters Fed-rats and most of the imperial faction powerplayers. The fed rats took it in the end (they had lots of Rhea cash to buy forts!)
None of this makes Galnet. Thus nobody takes it seriously.
We used to have more news because of community generated articles, but this practice was suspended when the alien plot line began in order to avoid confusion via various lines of community speculation. And also to control the story more tightly. The end result being that Galnet is now very sleepy headed.
It would be cool if a new discovery would trigger an automatic GalNet post and a notification message to every CMDR. This can't be done for everything, but for static and unique locations like Generation Ships or new Thargoid bases. That would be a nice exploration reward and it would add a little bit to the feeling of dynamic galaxy.
FD clearly wants to make Galnet News more useful. They wouldn't be putting effort into the text-to-speech feature if they didn't see a future in it. At the same time, player-submitted content must have been a problem, as it has been put on hold. I wonder if the effort of moderating the content and making sure it fits with the lore was too onerous?
I wonder if there might be some mileage in having volunteer moderators or sub-editors vetting player-submissions to reduce the workload of the FD staff, while still allowing player-generated content to be published? In the spirit of Galnet as an aggregator, different player factions could "own" their own system-specific publications, still moderated, such that a CMDR entering the system would be offered (in audio) all the local news.
It would still be a lot of work, though....
I wonder if there might be some mileage in having volunteer moderators or sub-editors vetting player-submissions to reduce the workload of the FD staff, while still allowing player-generated content to be published? In the spirit of Galnet as an aggregator, different player factions could "own" their own system-specific publications, still moderated, such that a CMDR entering the system would be offered (in audio) all the local news.
It would still be a lot of work, though....
Maybe it needs some other information channels than GalNet? Let's GalNet be GalNet.For more juicy info there could be other sources.
Although all of them would require moderation so...
Although all of them would require moderation so...
This is exactly what I have been thinking for a while now. I don't understand why it isn't used more.
Maybe you should write the galnet articles
.Say that, I think everyone knows at this point that the Alliance player base is invading Federation space. And I salute them for it. Saves us Imperials having to do it. Just hope they don't start taking our systems too......
Yayyy this!!
I find with Galnet that there is simply reams and reams of it to trudge through. Not sure that the new upcoming voice facility will help as the content will still be exceedingly over saturating.
The most relevant up to date information is on the forums.
If it wasn't for the forums I wouldn't be aware of anything exsisting outside of the bubble....ever.
Flimley
The most relevant up to date information is on the forums.
If it wasn't for the forums I wouldn't be aware of anything exsisting outside of the bubble....ever.
Flimley
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Somehow I suspect that if the pace of the story were sped up to more closely match other player's expectations, that you would be OK with it and probably wouldn't demand that things be slowed down.
If you read my posts I didn't say I would mind that, I just wanted to point out there are players as me who most likely don't get worked up about pacing of story line. However I pointed out that I feel that speed isn't really an issue here - context is. There's not much interactive story telling within ED and I have been pointing that out for long, long time.
Ergo - there's certainly room for healthy criticism and feedback. But I am very allergic of other players claiming doom and gloom on game. I know, that makes me easy target to pull in into discussions I should take part of. Can't help much myself.
Our living, breathing, galaxy requires an always online connection.
So, we can get the same content as if, we were, say, in an offline mode...
So, we can get the same content as if, we were, say, in an offline mode...
The fact they actually shut down Galnet submissions while these events were taking place, was absolutely infuriating.
One of the biggest complaint about Elite is often that it feel empty and lifeless. it is not. Stuff is happening all the time, but it's almost impossible to let the community know about it. How hard would it be to approve 2-3 player generated articles a day, when they are reasonably well done, and discuss isolated local (or area) disputes that don't affect overall lore?
It is just baffling.
That it can't even keep up a steady stream of Thargoid reports to keep some level of engagement going with 2.4, especially when actual game content is strung out across months, makes me think this long-prepared Return wasn't thought through at all. We have a bare bones linear story, so incredibly flat and without tension, whereas there is loads of opportunity for drama and conflict.
Why is Alliance in Aegis? This was essentially just a single line of "oh yeah, Alliance also joined". While we saw some doubt from imperials to work with the Feds, nobody thinks it is odd that the Alliance just joins the successor to INRA, which killed its founder? Who authorized this? The PM can't do this alone. The Assembly? If so, where was the debate. The Council of Admirals? We don't even know which systems are in that!
One diplomat speculated that Alliance perhaps joined just to keep tabs on the Feds and Imps, and work their own plan and program - which sounds far more complex and dramatic, but seems entirely wishful thinking at the moment.
Instead we just have Admiral Tanner go "Thargies are bad, OK - go shoot them", and the galaxy is just going to go, oh OK, yeah, right on.
We have been told there is a fist thick book on the Thargoids and what they are about. Instead, we get a couple of 150 word articles that explain almost nothing.