Mining Painite

Just curious why the term "ton" keeps being used. How is it measured in a gravity free environment? Is it called a ton in the game? I thought it was referred to as a unit.

because "mass" is independent from gravity.
what you refer to is "weight" and that is measured in Newton

don't you learn that in middle school?

I have a couple mining questions, if you don't mine.

1. What is the maximum number of collection limpets you can have going at the same time?

I forgot the other question.

depends on how many controller you cram into your ship
 
because "mass" is independent from gravity.
what you refer to is "weight" and that is measured in Newton

don't you learn that in middle school?



depends on how many controller you cram into your ship

Is it called a ton in the game?

Mass is independent from gravity, but that doesn't answer how the material is being measured. Is it by how if affects the movement of the ship? The density if the material? Does the size of 1 ton of gold = the size of 1 ton of grain and if not, why can we fit both in the same amount of space?
 
There's another trick you can use...mine in a wing ensuring one of you has a Prospector. You get double the yeald for prospecting first and can all mine the full yeald, so in a wing of two you'll get 4x the yeald.
 
I have a couple mining questions, if you don't mine.

1. What is the maximum number of collection limpets you can have going at the same time?
I've had 20 on an Anaconda, but that was getting a little silly. Though you could manage 26 on a 'Conda without shields or prospectors and only 64 tons of cargo.
 
So if you want Painite, do a prospector ship. Then map a path from a high or haz res out to where the pirates wont come. Then do a treausre map and mine the Painite repeatedly. Easy.

Takes time? Yeah, so what?!
 
Is it called a ton in the game?

Mass is independent from gravity, but that doesn't answer how the material is being measured. Is it by how if affects the movement of the ship? The density if the material? Does the size of 1 ton of gold = the size of 1 ton of grain and if not, why can we fit both in the same amount of space?

A piece of iron still hits you with the same mass in a weightless environment.
Mass is density x volume.
 
Is it called a ton in the game?

Couple patches ago they changed it to units but it used to be called tons, so community still call it tons as they used to do it for 2+ years.

Mass is same in every environment, 1000 kg of gold has same 1000 kg mass in 0G, 1G or 100G, but its weight is different on 0G than in 1G or 100G. Mass and weight aren't the same thing.
 
Couple patches ago they changed it to units but it used to be called tons, so community still call it tons as they used to do it for 2+ years.

can you point me to a screen ingame that calls it "units".
my ship computer shows those things either without unit, or more often refers them as "tonnes"
 
can you point me to a screen ingame that calls it "units".
my ship computer shows those things either without unit, or more often refers them as "tonnes"

I may be wrong but I don't recall it being called units either, I think they just removed the "ton". I still use ton (or tonnes) because I have gotten used to it being referred that way by the older players. Units would make more sense, but volume measurement would probably be best for commodities (Since the containers are all the same size), and materials should probably be in units. As pointed out above a ton of palladium would be a smaller container than a ton of tobacco. The materials don't really matter as they are not traded, and are only used in recipes...although this kinda gets sticky when talking about synthesizing fuel or etc.
 
I mined Painite in 14 I ORIONIS system, in two hours I took 16 tons. Look for the first HIGH RES near the sun. Once you get out of HC, just boost away from the RES going in the planet direction and the pirate NPCs will not be messing with you all the time.
 
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Couple patches ago they changed it to units but it used to be called tons, so community still call it tons as they used to do it for 2+ years.

Mass is same in every environment, 1000 kg of gold has same 1000 kg mass in 0G, 1G or 100G, but its weight is different on 0G than in 1G or 100G. Mass and weight aren't the same thing.

Thanks.

I've been an engineer for 25 years but I still didn't know the history of tons vs units in the game. The rest of the science I am fairly comfortable with.

Cargo affects your jump range and speed the same as if it weighs a ton. Who cares what it's labelled as.

I do. That's why I asked.
 
you should stop to care.

or else you will start to wonder how the "Refinery module" we can install in your ships works

not only can it make matter desintegrate into nothing when you command a bin to empty,
it can also create standard cargo containers as side product of its refining process, so you can jettison the refined product afterwards
 
That gets worse when you start wondering just what the other 90% of an ice roid was made of. Or what happens to this mystery mineral when you refine the 10% of water out of a fragment.
 
I only cared to know if the game considers it a ton or a unit. The rest is just side story that seems to have taken on a life all it's own, complete with scientific formulas and such.
 
I only cared to know if the game considers it a ton or a unit. The rest is just side story that seems to have taken on a life all it's own, complete with scientific formulas and such.

Both, and neither.
At one time everything was labeled a ton, now some things don't have any label, some say ton, and apparently some same unit.
 
can't wait for the mining system to be changed.

i just have to keep my expectations low. given their past decisions.

i almost expect those "depth charges" required to blow up asteroids are another form of limpet that requires... another limpet controller
 
Can someone confirm to me if High Res sites actually provide better mining rocks? Or is everywhere in the ring the same?
 
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