[PSA] You can't stack skimmer missions anymore

[Sentience]

Once upon a time killing 12 skimmers for mission A also satisfied the 8 skimmers for mission B, considering both missions were for the same planetary outpost and the skimmers were part of the same faction.

Not anymore.

Now, you have to kill 12, then you have to kill 8 more of the exact same kind. The only thing you save by stacking missions for the same location is time, by not flying to a different system/moon to kill the next batch.

FDev really knows how to suck the fun out of everything. This makes zero sense since I can stack data delivery missions to the same station.
I really hate cruddy design like this.

 

[Alodia]

You gotta be kidding me - especially as half the time these missions flake out and don't register kills.

 

[Conch]

seriously?

you see this as an issue? you know how much money you can make if they stack??

 

[Conch]

1skimmer mission to kill 12 is 8.5m

compare to plain old bounty hunting..

 

[Meric]

In this case the announcement is probably unnecessary, the topic was hotly debated on the forum previously.

 

[lecorsobreton]

I am allied with the controlling faction and other minor factions in my "home system" and a mission to kill 12 skimmers can get me 8m for less than 30 minutes of gameplay. That's plenty. In my books at least. I'm pretty sure you know, but the trick is not going to the base, but looking for points of interest 15km away from the base and follow your scanner. You may even end up with tasty cargo for extra cash.

 

[JesusRocks1988]

This was a widely publicised feature of 2.4.

Missions that make (slightly) more sense. This type of stacking was always unintended, I remember Mr Waite saying in a livestream ages ago when it became popular that they couldn't do anything about it yet because of the way the mission system worked. Subsequently, they found a way to fix it.

You can still stack in this way if you get those missions from different givers, though.

 

[Weps]

Look, I give FDEV a lot of flak lately but in this case I can only say: Bravo! Finally.

I don't know how this can be considered "sucking the fun out of everything". I mean, yes, complain that you don't have enough credits. Complain that big ships or top modules shoudn't be costing that much in the first place. Complain that the game is one big hamster wheel designed to keep players online for no apparent reason, since they've been banished in their own little private groups anyway. I could get behind those complaints.

But don't complain that this mission's success logic has been finally fixed. Jeez.

 

[Sentience]

seriously?

you see this as an issue? you know how much money you can make if they stack??

This was a widely publicised feature of 2.4.

Missions that make (slightly) more sense. This type of stacking was always unintended, I remember Mr Waite saying in a livestream ages ago when it became popular that they couldn't do anything about it yet because of the way the mission system worked. Subsequently, they found a way to fix it.

You can still stack in this way if you get those missions from different givers, though.

It's a double standard if they still allow stacking of other missions, like data delivery.

Look, I give FDEV a lot of flak lately but in this case I can only say: Bravo! Finally.

I don't know how this can be considered "sucking the fun out of everything". I mean, yes, complain that you don't have enough credits. Complain that big ships or top modules shoudn't be costing that much in the first place. Complain that the game is one big hamster wheel designed to keep players online for no apparent reason, since they've been banished in their own little private groups anyway. I could get behind those complaints.

But don't complain that this mission's success logic has been finally fixed. Jeez.

How is it logical that 2 people want the same target dead, but after I kill the target person #2 says "well hey, you didn't kill it for me so go kill another one".

Zero logic.

 

[Conch]

It's a double standard if they still allow stacking of other missions, like data delivery.

thats compared apples with oranges..

besides, i did some skimmer missions myself this weekend and ended up with a large amount of credits and rare mats.
all arguments for stacking skimmers are invalid..

 

[Vasious]

It's a double standard if they still allow stacking of other missions, like data delivery.

What doesn't stack is the same faction offering kill missions to kill the same targets

Nothing wrong with that

Different factions offering kill missions to kill the same targets works

Stacking delivery missions from the same faction delivering to the same location is not an analogue to the same faction offering multiple payments to kill the same target

 

[Aiken Drum]

It's a double standard if they still allow stacking of other missions, like data delivery.

But you aren't delivering the same data to finish multiple missions. You want to be able to kill the same skimmer to satisfy different mission objectives? Why not sell the same item of cargo to different people for extra profit?

 

[Sentience]

thats compared apples with oranges..

besides, i did some skimmer missions myself this weekend and ended up with a large amount of credits and rare mats.
all arguments for stacking skimmers is invalid..

Lol, you might as well just say "you disagree with my opinion, so your opinion is invalid".

Anyway, I don't see two different kinds of fruit. I see one mission system restricting stacking while allowing it at the same time.

 

[Weps]

How is it logical that 2 people want the same target dead, but after I kill the target person #2 says "well hey, you didn't kill it for me so go kill another one".

Zero logic.

What 2 people? Missions are given out by factions.

If your job consists of sending e-mails to your boss, and you also cc someone else in the company, do you ask for double the paycheck, since theoretically you supplied "2 people" with e-mails?

 

[Conch]

Lol, you might as well just say "you disagree with my opinion, so your opinion is invalid".

Anyway, I don't see two different kinds of fruit. I see one mission system restricting stacking while allowing it at the same time.

yes i disagree with you here..

how much money do you make stacking 20 data missions to the same place, and how do you make from 20 skimmer missions?
cause last run i did i made 130m... there is no argument in the world to justify to make even more than that with stacking the kills too.

or do you think you should make 500.000.000cr/h???

 

[Sentience]

You can still stack in this way if you get those missions from different givers, though.

What doesn't stack is the same faction offering kill missions to kill the same targets

Nothing wrong with that

Different factions offering kill missions to kill the same targets works

What 2 people? Missions are given out by factions.

I took both missions from different minor faction mission brokers, so no, they don't actually stack.

 

[Sentience]

yes i disagree with you here..

how much money do you make stacking 20 data missions to the same place, and how do you make from 20 skimmer missions?
cause last run i did i made 130m... there is no argument in the world to justify to make even more than that with stacking the kills too.

or do you think you should make 500.000.000cr/h???

I've never stacked 20 missions before. Most I can do is 2 or 3 to the same place. Most I've ever gotten from doing that from a system where I'm allied with every minor faction is about 6 mil.

So I don't really relate to your 500,000,000 credit per hour model.

 

[Weps]

from different minor faction mission brokers,

Is that...

different mission brokers of the same minor faction

or

different minor factions represented by whatever mission broker?

 

[Conch]

I've never stacked 20 missions before. Most I can do is 2 or 3 to the same place. Most I've ever gotten from doing that from a system where I'm allied with every minor faction is about 6 mil.

So I don't really relate to your 500,000,000 credit per hour model.

its linked to your combat rank, im Elite, so i make a max of 8.5m per mission.

the thing is people are stacking 20 of these missions cause the game lets them. if each kill would count towards every mission it would run into 500mcr/h stuff.

 

[Sentience]

Is that...

different mission brokers of the same minor faction

or

different minor factions represented by whatever mission broker?

How can 1 broker represent multiple minor factions in the same system?

It was 2 different people representing 2 different minor factions from the same system.