I linked a good journalistic tratment of it about a week back, but it was immediately locked by a mod. It should still be easy to find.
General / Off-Topic Help me Professor Yaffle. You're my only hope to explain the Manafort Indictment
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I linked a good journalistic tratment of it about a week back, but it was immediately locked by a mod. It should still be easy to find.
Why then did Russia go through the ordeal of buying up 20% of the uranium? becos it wishes to corner the market?
The suggested reasoning you make has no basis for commonsense to stand up
Why purchase Uranium if you have enough already!!
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It's always the same
No evidence, but if there's a phony made up dossier used as a dirty trick in a campaign against a Republican then the seriuosness of the allegations requires investigation.
Obvious quid pro quo pay to play self enriching schemes and collusion by Democrats that a blind man can see and what do you get?
"Nothing to see here, move along, just partisan politics."
Fortunately your starting to see the panic set in as the public isn't buying it anymore.
No evidence, but if there's a phony made up dossier used as a dirty trick in a campaign against a Republican then the seriuosness of the allegations requires investigation.
Obvious quid pro quo pay to play self enriching schemes and collusion by Democrats that a blind man can see and what do you get?
"Nothing to see here, move along, just partisan politics."
Fortunately your starting to see the panic set in as the public isn't buying it anymore.
I saw Joy live, thanks.
The evidence is in this thread.
Please see the actual court documents. They led to a conviction. Or just look at the photo of it in progress.
as far as the public goes:
http://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1193a1TheMuellerInvestigation.pdf
Most Americans now think that Trump has committed a crime.
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( I have to add that I'm wondering if the Moon Landing was fake. The American public is vastly too s-l-o-w to have ever achieved that. Or at least the 1/2 or so that STILL can't figure this out. )
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True Story!!
It was probably a good deal. While the sale of uranium is tightly controlled (see how the deal was vetted), there is nothing sinister about nuclear power plant fuel.
Russia has big reserves of uranium, and they don't need to buy it from the yanks for nuclear weapons, is what I meant. The idea is ridiculous.
A) hydrogen bombs use plutonium as the fission trigger
B) what was sold is not usable in nuclear weapons, even the basic A-bombs
C) Russia has a massive nuclear arsenal, bigger than that of the US. They are not some 3rd world country, held back by lack of uranium.
Face it, it's a silly distraction.
You very nicely evaded the commonsense question...
why buy it if you have already enough Uranium?
trying to sidestep this answer leads one into ignoring the importance of the Uranium One deal.. and who are clearly selling out America for the highest price!!
This very much borders on collusion and treasonous behaviour, by the very people accusing President Trump of Collusion...
How Ironic
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Thanks for answering my question. I'm sure time will tell how far up the Russian collusion goes. But it is looking increasingly likely that an obstruction of justice charge will be made against Trump. It's why he is now so angry at Jared Kushner's suggestion that he fire Comey. It would be a real shame for Trump if he gets charged with a cover-up if there wasn't anything going on to cover up.
Seeing as you brought up sanctions, would you mind speculating on why Trump is dragging his heels implementing the sanctions that were supposed to be in place a month ago?
you seem like a sensible individual Frank.. you also have a grasp of the english language.. better then myself
As much as you have been led by the stories and articles written by Trump opponents, there is a undeniable truth in the battle with words!!
i will use your own words as an example..... "But it is looking increasingly likely that an obstruction of justice charge will be made against Trump."
the word "increasingly" is a leading word.. "likely" is also a leading word..
the use of these words in articles lead people...
And then we have outright Lies.. which are statements from Media sources which have unknown sources..
eventually if you mix the two.. one becomes easily swept up in the deceit taking place.
If you want to make sensible judgements... use commonsense... and understand these scriptures
Matthew 7:16 , Luke 6:44 , Matthew 12:33
As for the sanctions im unsure where the process is at currently.. i recall only that Putin was upset about the News of it
Perhaps there might be a clue in the court documents that are publicly available, which detail the charges, and the evidence?
Mueller is a shrewd individual and no doubt protecting his own backside... afterall he knew about the Uranium one Deal as i believe he participated in some form with the eventual sale of Uranium to Russia... and here he is investigating Russia Collusion.. HULLO!!!
looking beyond the scope of why Manafort and his associate seems a bit beyond you to perceive!!
theres a bigger picture Mueller is trying to establish
The question is what!!
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Ok then, solve that mystery without the evidence.
< sits back, looking on, with popcorn >
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i wonder if this was the reactionary motivation for why Mueller decided to Indict Manafort recently
oh yes... a unnamed source?? should we take this seriously?? this Video was airred 24th October and Manaforts indictment comes on the heels of this date!!
Is Mueller attempting to get ahead of the game?? interesting!!
[video=youtube_share;qpb_Eh_oXrA]https://youtu.be/qpb_Eh_oXrA[/video]
oh yes... a unnamed source?? should we take this seriously?? this Video was airred 24th October and Manaforts indictment comes on the heels of this date!!
Is Mueller attempting to get ahead of the game?? interesting!!
[video=youtube_share;qpb_Eh_oXrA]https://youtu.be/qpb_Eh_oXrA[/video]
The sanctions have yet to be implemented. I'm sure Putin will be upset about this investigation. If Trump is in Putin's pocket then the Russian leader has lost his influence over America.
And you may have spotted that I used the conditional "if" there. Yes my posts are riddled with words like that, and get-out clauses. The reason for that is because I have no idea what I'm talking about. I've been proven wrong so many times it's unreal...
Oh my God! Trump's putting himself up as a candidate. I've seen how he treated Michael Forbes. There's no way the GOP would allow such a crooked candidate.
Oh my God! Not only is he crooked, but he's a complete racist moron as well. He's not going to be their nomination.
Oh my God! There's a tape of him not only admitting to harassing a married woman, but boasting about it. There's no way he's going to win the election.
Oh my God! He had to settle his Trump University case. That's like admitting to guilt. That's the presidency over before it began.
Oh my God! He employed a Russian traitor. That's the presidency over before it began.
Oh my God! He's tried to ban all Muslims. That's the presidency over before it began.
Oh my God! He's sacked the head of the FBI. He's admitted it was over the Russian Investigation. That's the presidency over before it began.
Oh my God! He's just called the Charlottesville right wing demonstrators that were chanting racist slogans and decked with 2nd world war memorabilia (I'm sure there's a snappier word I could use to refer to them) nice people. That's the presidency over before it began.
Oh my God! Trump junior admitted by email that they were colluding with the Russians. That's the presidency over before it began.
So here we are at this point in time, and I've been truly brow-beaten, and I say..
Oh my God! George Papadopoulos was wearing a wire! There's a small chance that this could mean that the presidency is over.
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That's an impressive list of trash.
Next time just elect an actual pumpkin into office.
Next time just elect an actual pumpkin into office.
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Thank.you for answering.
when you say "selling Uranium to Russia" are you suggesting that actual enriched uranium was put on a boat for Russia in exchange for cash?
I can see how that might look bad for US national security.
As far as I know, that is not what happened.
I believe that a Canadian company that owns, uranium mines and facilities around the world including the US was sold to russian concern.
The mines (pretty obviously) and facilities still remain in the US. Any product from those facilities is still subject to US export restrictions, i.e. it is no easier for Russia to get hold of US sourced uranium after the deal than before.
Does that chime with your understanding? Have I missed something?
I did not ignore it. I said it was probably a good deal.
This really isn't hard to follow.
Russia doesn't need American uranium to make nuclear weapons.
Once you realise that, you'll understand there isn't anything particularly dramatic about the sale. Why is a deal over nuclear power plant fuel supposed to be "treadonous"? It's just international commerce.
Saying it was probably a good deal... is like saying the Sky is blue
All deals are good.... unless of course you are undermining your National Security for the sake of a Dollar!!
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