General / Off-Topic Help me Professor Yaffle. You're my only hope to explain the Manafort Indictment

[beelbeebub]

@6xes.

You appear very animated about "uranium one".

Could you explain in a few sentences why you believe it to be important?

You don't have to link to articles I'd rather get your take on the story.

Secondly, Trump made a huge thing about how he would pick the best people to advise and run things for him.

How do you think he is doing on that front?

 

[Frank]

6axes,

If you do find time to answer the above questions, maybe you could answer another one for me? You say in your post "and i never mentioned who paid for the Trump Dossier :x"

So does this mean that you believe the contents of the Steele Dossier to be true? After all, why would the Democrats go all the way to Russia for a fake dossier if they could make one up themselves for nothing?

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

Robert Mercer just "washed his hands of Breitbart" by selling his stake to his offspring.
Unexpected indeed.

I'm giving up entirely on trying to predict this thing, but why would a father sell (not even "give") a dirty asset to his kids? is he trying to distance himself NOW? Don't get it.

Edit
Found more out here.
Looks like more of a retirement type move as he's also quitting his CEO post.

 

[FuzzySpider]

Uhm...

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/02/p...ler-documents-russia-investigation/index.html

...this might not take as long as everyone thought.

 

[Adept]

Hi 6xes.

I hope you don't mind if I ask you a purely hypothetical question. Let's say this Mueller investigation leads to the impeachment of Donald Trump. How will you take the news? Will you accept the findings of the legal system or will you take to the streets in protest?

What, in St. Petersburg? I suspect he'll be busy stoking up the remaining faithful on social media and discussion boards.

 

[Adept]

Robert Mercer just "washed his hands of Breitbart" by selling his stake to his offspring.
Unexpected indeed.

I'm giving up entirely on trying to predict this thing, but why would a father sell (not even "give") a dirty asset to his kids? is he trying to distance himself NOW? Don't get it.

Edit
Found more out here.
Looks like more of a retirement type move as he's also quitting his CEO post.

Mercer is an utterly bizarre individual, even among stupidly rich libertarians. His world view seems pretty warped.

 

[shreddog]

Only one thing can remove the US President from office, and that is the American voter in the next election. Not some Russian conspiracy tale that so far has proved to be complete .
The most important thing for voters is the economy. If the economy is doing well he will sit a second term, guaranteed.

And so far things are looking good. Trump is living up to his name 'the jobs President'. More and more manufacturers are moving back or starting up in the US. It may look like the Don will actually be able to turn the trend of companies shipping jobs out of the US of A.

[video=youtube_share;udtpZlcDNVM]https://youtu.be/udtpZlcDNVM[/video]

Jobs report tomorrow btw.

 

[Frank]

Hello Shreddog.

From your post, you sound like you are still a Trump supporter. Would you mind if I ask you the same question as I did 6axes? Of course I completely agree with you that Donald J Trump is a wonderful man and definitely will survive the full 8 years of his Presidency, even longer if he changes the rules while he is in power.

But let's take a flight of pure fantasy here and imagine the completely ridiculous, and totally never-gonna-happen, highly improbable situation that the Mueller report finds Trump guilty of collusion with Vladimir Putin. Would you be happy that ex Marine Robert Mueller has a reputation for honesty, or would you believe that he, and the whole FBI team that backs him falsified all the evidence? Would you take to the streets with your guns to show your disapproval of the investigation's result?

 

[Deleted member 115407]

...Trump is a wonderful man and definitely will survive the full 8 years of his Presidency, even longer if he changes the rules while he is in power.

The President has no power or authority to change the term limits.

If I recall, you aren't a U.S. Citizen, so I don't fault you for the misunderstanding. As for U.S. Citizens though, it's an easy tell of civic and legal ignorance when people ascribe powers and responsibilities to the Presidency that don't exist.

 

[Frank]

The President has no power or authority to change the term limits.

If I recall, you aren't a U.S. Citizen, so I don't fault you for the misunderstanding. As for U.S. Citizens though, it's an easy tell of civic and legal ignorance when people ascribe powers and responsibilities to the Presidency that don't exist.

Thank you for putting my mind at rest over that. It means that the most we have to endure is 8 years. Although it's true that I don't suffer the direct misery of Trump's reign, there is the fact that nuclear fallout clouds don't tend to honour political boundaries.

Also what's your take on what'll happen if Trump is removed from office?

 

[Adept]

The President has no power or authority to change the term limits.

If I recall, you aren't a U.S. Citizen, so I don't fault you for the misunderstanding. As for U.S. Citizens though, it's an easy tell of civic and legal ignorance when people ascribe powers and responsibilities to the Presidency that don't exist.

You are unwilling to answer the simple question then? What if Mueller digs up enough dirt and Trump is removed from office?

 

[Deleted member 115407]

You are unwilling to answer the simple question then? What if Mueller digs up enough dirt and Trump is removed from office?

I wasn't asked the question, 6xes (or shreddog) was.

As is painfully clear from my previous posts on this forum, I'm a principled conservative who believes in the rule of law. If someone has been found guilty of breaking the law, then they've been found guilty of breaking the law. If that results in their removal from office, then it results in their removal from office.

 

[Frank]

I have to spread the rep around before I can give you more vindelanos. I'm afraid you'll have to make do with this virtual rep

 

[Adept]

I wasn't asked the question, 6xes (or shreddog) was.

As is painfully clear from my previous posts on this forum, I'm a principled conservative who believes in the rule of law. If someone has been found guilty of breaking the law, then they've been found guilty of breaking the law. If that results in their removal from office, then it results in their removal from office.

Right. But what was this nonsense?

The President has no power or authority to change the term limits.

If I recall, you aren't a U.S. Citizen, so I don't fault you for the misunderstanding. As for U.S. Citizens though, it's an easy tell of civic and legal ignorance when people ascribe powers and responsibilities to the Presidency that don't exist.

Talking about "sitting the full eight years" is not nonsense nor displays any ignorance of the US system. That would be the maximum two terms, which Trump has repeatedly boasted about.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

Right. But what was this nonsense?

Talking about "sitting the full eight years" is not nonsense nor displays any ignorance of the US system. That would be the maximum two terms, which Trump has repeatedly boasted about.

Frank's original statement is quoted in my reply to him, which will provide you with the context that you're so desperately trying to prove doesn't exist.

This conversation is over.

 

[Adept]

Frank's original statement is quoted in my reply to him, which will provide you with the context that you're so desperately trying to prove doesn't exist.

This conversation is over.

The term limits have been changed before. Again, that doesn't display ignorance of the US system. You chose to try and discredit him on a detail, rather than actually address what his question was. But no matter, let's let it rest.

 

[Adept]

'I'm The Only One That Matters,' Trump Says Of State Dept. Job Vacancies

This whole thing is worth a read. It feels that Trump doesn't really understand how government works, or his role as president. He's not a king, or the CEO of USA incorporated. Leaving those posts unfulfilled isn't about cutting dead wood, it's about crippling the US government, the stated goal of Steve Bannon.

 

[Robin of Spiritwood]

Funny little story about a Mueller Pumpkin and Manafortes house here.

I don't know how people carve photographic looking Jack-o-Lanterns, but kudos for the talent.
You can see my poor chunky ones made with a serrated kitchen knife in the Halloween thread.

There's a gradual shift of public opinion in the US since the court matters and guilty verdict, it seems, but these days there's so much more going on.

 

[6xes]

Hi 6xes.

I hope you don't mind if I ask you a purely hypothetical question. Let's say this Mueller investigation leads to the impeachment of Donald Trump. How will you take the news? Will you accept the findings of the legal system or will you take to the streets in protest?

Lets just say... if im wrong... then im wrong!! it would then bring into question my judgement, and the sources from where i get my information
i would be concerned about the future of Nz accordingly..

where the impeachment of President Trump stands at present... there is no concern, in Fact "Collusion" is becoming all too common within the DNC..
ie. Donna Brazille coming out in her book stating collusion occurred to deny Bernie Sanders from being the Democratic nominee..(Trump knew this and made public comments about it...)
Uranium One is a deal that had been sanctioned and signed off by a number of individuals who have called for the investigation of Trump/Russia collusion... yet they excuse the Uranium One deal..and go to extraordinary lengths of not bringing this to light!!!

Its the alternative news media and other whistle blower sites that brings the light on Uranium One... Too long have the Mainstream media been complacent on keeping the Truth from the public.. or in recent cases feeding the public with Fake news and smearing tactics

Let us be Honest Frank, President Trump has been hated for all the wrong reasons.... and people who spread the fake news.. certainly brings into question their Judgement and their ability to recognise Truth from Lies!!

 

[6xes]

@6xes.

You appear very animated about "uranium one".

Could you explain in a few sentences why you believe it to be important?

You don't have to link to articles I'd rather get your take on the story.

Secondly, Trump made a huge thing about how he would pick the best people to advise and run things for him.

How do you think he is doing on that front?

If the opponents of President Trump wish to accuse and pass judgement on President Trump relentlessly accusing him of Russian Collusion.. then it would seem only fair that the integrity of the accusers be checked too...
The Russian Collusion narrative began with Podesta during the election cycle...then echoed by the many democrats in support of Hillary Clinton.

Yet the Uranium one deal... upon inspection was a deal done and carried out with Russian Officials who are directly tied to Putin.
Many of the people who established this deal.. and made the deal official... received money or favours from those in control of it(who are also the Very Acusser's Of the President Trump/Russia/Collusion)

Since when is selling Uranium to Russia in the best interest of American National Security.. this is the basis of why it is important
Yet President Trump is accused of Russia collusion in the democratic process?

Which of the two situations has currently more evidence!!??

on your second question... Trump finding the best person for the Job...
President Trump has a person handling selections(Chief of Staff?).. and those people are brought forward to him... Trump selects based on his intuition and his review of what the person has done in the past...
Trumps selections are not a fullproof 100% best for the job.. that is not to say.. many of his current selections havent done great work,,,

Trump does his best... and thats all that can be asked of him as a president

Was Elon Musk the right person for the job?? or did he have a invested interest??