This is really powerful. He doesn't mince words.
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/28/u...e-academy-prep-school-racist-slurs1001AMStory
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/28/u...e-academy-prep-school-racist-slurs1001AMStory
General / Off-Topic US Air Force Gen. Jay Silveria addresses racism
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Racism and bigotry have been strongly prohibited and vehemently discouraged in the US Armed forces for many years. The DoD is very focused on EO. It has to be for legal reasons.
Every unit, down to the Company level, has an EO officer (usually a mid-grade enlisted person) whose job it is to provide training on matters of EO and act as a dedicated point of contact for the reporting of EO violations.
Commendable as anti-racist sentiment may be, a Commanding Officer making a statement that "Racism will not be tolerated" is nothing special or new. It just is what it is.
Every unit, down to the Company level, has an EO officer (usually a mid-grade enlisted person) whose job it is to provide training on matters of EO and act as a dedicated point of contact for the reporting of EO violations.
Commendable as anti-racist sentiment may be, a Commanding Officer making a statement that "Racism will not be tolerated" is nothing special or new. It just is what it is.
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Let's not pretend that this has always been so. You won't have to go back that far to find endemic, systemic racism in the armed forces. It still persists, but at least it's not tolerated in the same way anymore.
You make it sound like they do this only for the legal reasons or because that is policy rather than being the right thing to do. I am quite familiar with all the EO training. I would caution against confusing someone just towing the line and telling their troops what they have been ordered to tell them and a heart felt reiteration of zero tolerance to cadets whom it is important to remember are young people being molded into fighters and officers, not seasoned troops hearing the same GMT over and over.
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So for how long should we beat the dead horse then?
I don't think it's as common, severe, or systemic as you think it is. In this case it certainly wasn't.
I never claimed that the Commander in question did it just for the legal reasons. But I think it is false to claim that he did anything special or out of the ordinary. I never served with a single Commander or NCO who would have tolerated racism in their unit, regardless of the target.
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I'm glad to hear it. I do have to ask though, are you white? A lot of this stuff tends to fly under the radar.
I'd also argue that in the age of Trump, the Alt-Right, muslim bans and all the rest of the current nonsense, the general's speech seemed very much needed and yes, remarkable.
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Yeah, I'm white (though technically I'm not, since I am of mixed blood). But don't worry, I never felt any kind of disadvantage when dealing with multiple seniors who were black, brown, or a member of other minority groups. Those included Lieutenants Colonel, Sergeants Major, First Sergeants, Platoon Sergeants, Section Sergeants, Drill Sergeants, instructors, peers, etc.
I mean, I always felt like I was given a pretty fair shake.
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I have no idea if you are being serious here.
Racism can feel rare if you yourself are white and end up not witnessing it. It's like when a lot of decent blokes doubt that sexual harrassment can be all that common. They've never witnessed any, so how common can it be really?
The mythology that racism doesn't happen to white people is just plain racist.
Well just ask liberal Hollywood about sexual harassment or racism because we all know they are pure as the first show.
I only witnessed racism in the armed forces a few times, and it was always dealt with by my CO as he should, zero tolerance.
And muslims are not a race BTW.
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I wonder?
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-detail-of-harassment-allegations-say-friends
How many lives must be ruined, before the absurd charges of racism and sexism used as trumph card against peoples for political reason or personal vendetta put their place? Point your finger and the other is done for, in the name of fairness and ethics? How fair to ruin someone for something man and woman straight and homosexual alike are all guilty?
Enough of this witch hunt!
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-detail-of-harassment-allegations-say-friends
How many lives must be ruined, before the absurd charges of racism and sexism used as trumph card against peoples for political reason or personal vendetta put their place? Point your finger and the other is done for, in the name of fairness and ethics? How fair to ruin someone for something man and woman straight and homosexual alike are all guilty?
Enough of this witch hunt!
Most of these hypocrites haven't only witnessed it, they've committed it.
I think an honest reckoning of who has or has not committed some significant degree of sexual assault would look like masturbation statistics. It's not only common, it's damn near omnipresent.
Nevermind. Rhetorical question. I'll head off the obvious ridiculous answer my query would bring before it happens.
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The supreme irony here is that the racial slurs were written by a Black Cadet who claimed he was the target.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/08/us/air-force-academy-racist-message-trnd/index.html
I'm sure he depended on everyone's racism to assume that a White person must have written the graffiti.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/08/us/air-force-academy-racist-message-trnd/index.html
I'm sure he depended on everyone's racism to assume that a White person must have written the graffiti.
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The question is, it is really harassment or just called to it? Named to it, by someone whom unable to deal with this sort of things, properly. If we all going to report someone when he did a clumsy or ill mannered attempt? This is really harassment? Don't get me started! Besides what can be better to destroy or set aside someone with whom you have a problem with? Easy charges and taken way too serious compared to it's proof. It's just like racism... All you have to do, to keep slinging mud, and pick a quarrel, withmis understandable act, and word until it's sticks. Racist card at his best. Sexism is just another variation of this lowly tactics.
And no, it's not that common. Begin clumsy or unmannerly are not harassment, but it called to it, when someone have a grudge with a person in question.
In my days of youthful adventure, I could rely on the self-indoctrinated racism of the broader society around me to make sure any witnesses to my antics saw a young black male perpetrator. While it's true that, despite my shaved head, most white nationalist groups would never have me because of my ethnicity, I'm definitely not back, and it's very hard for me to be mistaken for black...unless I'm doing something overtly illegal in a poorly lit area, then it's all the hypocritical xenophobic racist scum (aka humanity) around me can see. The human capacity for self delusion will never cease to amaze or enrich me, even if I've moved up to more legally kosher means of exploiting it.
Anyway, it doesn't really matter who wrote the slurs, as long as they are punished the same as anyone else. Plus, it did give the command a good excuse for a good speech.
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Typical... Btw? Anyone remembers how Michael Jackson ruined? With the charges of pedophilia, as it turned out not a single world was true, only the parents wanted a few million dollar "compensation" but in the time he won the case, he was socially and financially completely ruined.
If there is a disgustingly cheap shot used to destroy others, it's sexism / pedophilia, and racism Godvin's law at his "best", alongside with some disgusting exclusive peoples with a mind of a criminal.
Laws are really necessary, against the false accusers, and based on the damage it's causes? It cannot be taken seriously enough.
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