Thargoid heart's health not dropping?

space voyager

space voyager
I did notice that sometimes AX weapons seem to have no effect on the Thargoid. There was an incident when I had the wrong heart targeted :D (didn't know that the next exerted heart is not necessarily the same) but I've seen more than once when the target was correct and weapons were hitting it but the health condition went no worse.

Is this a bug or is HP simply not updated every millisecond? I've seen some talk about synch issues.
 

CmdrZaratan

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space voyager said:
I did notice that sometimes AX weapons seem to have no effect on the Thargoid. There was an incident when I had the wrong heart targeted :D (didn't know that the next exerted heart is not necessarily the same) but I've seen more than once when the target was correct and weapons were hitting it but the health condition went no worse.

Is this a bug or is HP simply not updated every millisecond? I've seen some talk about synch issues.
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I believe it's a sync issue where the heart remains looking like it's exposed to some people in a wing when it's actually turned off again.

I could be wrong though as I've only been in 3 successful wings.
 

CmdrZaratan

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space voyager said:
Ah. Definitely annoying as hell to finally get that moment of barrage directly onto a target just to see nothing happened.
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If it helps, the hearts stay exposed for a fixed amount of time after exposing. It's not random. So after a bit of practice you should be able to tell when it's about to turn off again.
 

GluttonyFang

GluttonyFang
If you fight the Thargoid in a wing, prepare to have instancing problems where hearts refuse to take damage even when exerted.

Trust me, I felt your frustration during the CG.
 

CMDR Falcon

Jurassic World Evolution Dev
Frontier
Hey all,

If anyone does have any recorded footage of this issues then please do pass it on to our QA team via the bug reporting forums as we've not had much success trying to replicate this bug in our own testing at the moment.

Even if you don't have a video of the bug any further detailed reports that you have would be appreciated by our QA team so that they can look into this futher and get it fixed for everyone. :)

Cheers and fly safe! o7

- CMDR Falcon
 

Jaylem

Jaylem
CMDR Falcon said:
Hey all,

If anyone does have any recorded footage of this issues then please do pass it on to our QA team via the bug reporting forums as we've not had much success trying to replicate this bug in our own testing at the moment.

Even if you don't have a video of the bug any further detailed reports that you have would be appreciated by our QA team so that they can look into this futher and get it fixed for everyone. :)

Cheers and fly safe! o7

- CMDR Falcon
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I posted about this same topic before, However GluttonyFang kindly pointed out that the Health must be dropped prior to attacking sub-targets. it was not a bug for me, just lack of information. This could be the same scenario. AX Missiles must be used first to lower HP, then AX cannons to shred hearts.

I recommend Pinning Gluttony's Post "how to Solo a Thargoid" as it appears to constantly be updated and contains ALOT of info on the matter and could help a lot of people! :)

Best of luck Sir, And keep up the good work!

CMDR Jaylem
 

Ziljan

Ziljan
CMDR Falcon said:
Hey all,

If anyone does have any recorded footage of this issues then please do pass it on to our QA team via the bug reporting forums as we've not had much success trying to replicate this bug in our own testing at the moment.

Even if you don't have a video of the bug any further detailed reports that you have would be appreciated by our QA team so that they can look into this futher and get it fixed for everyone. :)

Cheers and fly safe! o7

- CMDR Falcon
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No footage, but there definitely seems to be an instancing issues where repeated direct hits on a visually exerted heart to result in no damage to that heart. I have verified in their subtarget list that the heart being targeted was listed as "exerted" as well.

The only thing that fixes this right now is for the person having the issue to jump to super cruise and back while the wing mates hold the instance. A bit of a nuisance.
 

GluttonyFang

GluttonyFang
Ziljan said:
No footage, but there definitely seems to be an instancing issues where repeated direct hits on a visually exerted heart to result in no damage to that heart. I have verified in their subtarget list that the heart being targeted was listed as "exerted" as well.

The only thing that fixes this right now is for the person having the issue to jump to super cruise and back while the wing mates hold the instance. A bit of a nuisance.
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Precisely, my speculation is that the exerted state of a Thargoid is not synchronized throughout all the clients connected to the island host.

Also another thing to note is that sometimes a random heart gets selected to be exerted instead of the one previously suffering damage but not destroyed, and this newly selected heart will never take damage (until by chance the instance rectifies itself and the mechanics carry out as they are intended, of course). So it's also possible that exerted state of the Thargoid is communicated, but clients report different petals/hearts.
 
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CmdrZaratan

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GluttonyFang said:
Precisely, my speculation is that the exerted state of a Thargoid is not synchronized throughout all the clients connected to the island host.

Also another thing to note is that sometimes a random heart gets selected to be exerted instead of the one previously suffering damage but not destroyed, and this newly selected heart will never take damage. So it's also possible that exerted state of the Thargoid is communicated, but clients report different petals/hearts.
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That last part isn't always correct. In 2 wings I've been in the hearts have exerted in seemingly random order but have always been damage-able. In the last wing the first heart got down to 17% before it stopped exerting, and it was the last heart to be destroyed in the fight after knocking off the other 3.
 

space voyager

space voyager
Hmmm, I think that the last instance really was as GF describes - when the exerted heart changed. I am not sure whether it was always the case.

When other players experienced this issue they jumped out and back in (again, as GF describes) and the issue was gone. Who knows whether the issue would correct itself without it and when the synching would be... synched. It went away for me but I can't say what did it.

Anyway, I hope this kind of issues is gone if and when a bigger conflict arises.
 
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GODofDUTY83

GODofDUTY83
GluttonyFang said:
If you fight the Thargoid in a wing, prepare to have instancing problems where hearts refuse to take damage even when exerted.

Trust me, I felt your frustration during the CG.
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Its not just in wings.
Ive completely gave up on the aliens as it was happening with me also. Slap it hard no damage, nothing. One pass from the thargons though and my hull tanked conda goes from 85 to 15% hull.
Yeah, no, I'll give it a miss.
 

CmdrZaratan

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GODofDUTY83 said:
Its not just in wings.
Ive completely gave up on the aliens as it was happening with me also. Slap it hard no damage, nothing. One pass from the thargons though and my hull tanked conda goes from 85 to 15% hull.
Yeah, no, I'll give it a miss.
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So you exerted a heart in solo and then shot the heart, and did no damage? That's a new one. I've probably engaged close to 100 Thargoids in solo and never seen that happen.
 

Heater

Heater
We saw this last night i.e. for me the heart was exerted and and dropping, however for the wing-man he saw nothing, I went to rearm and came back to see the same heart at 100% again and we had no effect on it.
Plus the thargoid was warping around in the instance 4-5 Km back an forth.
 
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