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Censorship is evil. In any kind of form.

I don't think you thought that statement through. There are certain topics where i think a vast majority of people in the world would agree censorship is warranted. If you think about it, i'm sure you can think of certain topics that FD most certainly wouldn't want discussed on these forums. For example, certain topics one might find on the dark web.
 
Being able to switch off censorship in-game? Absolutely. 100% I am quite capable of taking responsibility for myself, yet I am far less capable of enduring patronizing asterisking in ship names due to far-fetched associations. Assassinations anyone? And what about the letter "b"? Or even "69"?
I am no child anymore and do not want to be treated like one, thank you.
Neither are this games target groups mainly children, no matter what the "ESRB" stuff claims. Want proof? Just pay back every adult's money who plays the game and look what's left.
 
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I don't think you thought that statement through. There are certain topics where i think a vast majority of people in the world would agree censorship is warranted. If you think about it, i'm sure you can think of certain topics that FD most certainly wouldn't want discussed on these forums. For example, certain topics one might find on the dark web.

True, but you cant just deleting posts because you dont like it.

Posts should be hided (spoiler), moved or something like that not deleted. I really like to know what people posting even they are wrong. And i dont mean some dark insulting and harassment / troll posts with one or two words, of course they should be deleted.
 

Ian Phillips

Volunteer Moderator
I am no child anymore and do not want to be treated like one, thank you.
Neither are this games target groups mainly children, no matter what the "ESRB" stuff claims. Want proof? Just pay back every adult's money who plays the game and look what's left.

The 'ESRB stuff' has requirements that any company HAS to comply with. That you feel yourself mature enough to be able to deal deal with issues arising from uncensored texts in game does not in any way remove FD's obligation to comply with these requirements.
 

Ian Phillips

Volunteer Moderator
True, but you cant just deleting posts because you dont like it.

Posts should be hided (spoiler), moved or something like that not deleted. I really like to know what people posting even they are wrong. And i dont mean some dark insulting and harassment / troll posts with one or two words, of course they should be deleted.

If you have issues with the way moderation is executed on the forums then please follow the prescribed complaints procedure here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...23-May-2016)?p=3895652&viewfull=1#post3895652
 
What amazes me is how people cannot express themselves without swearing. Are some people here construction site workers? :p

I tend to swear like a sailor to make my anger really apparent. Most people tend to confuse my natural state of being snarky when I'm angry, and they're not remotely the same.
 

Sir.Tj

The Moderator who shall not be Blamed....
Volunteer Moderator
Frontier's forum, frontiers rules which everyone agrees to when registering an account.

As per in game, again Frontier decides what the content will be, and yes younger people play the game as well. and yes again In game is different to the forum because it's not the only game supported here on the forum.

True, but you cant just deleting posts because you dont like it.

Posts should be hided (spoiler), moved or something like that not deleted. I really like to know what people posting even they are wrong. And i dont mean some dark insulting and harassment / troll posts with one or two words, of course they should be deleted.

If a post breaks the forum rules then the appropriate action is taken, either editing or deleting at the discression on the moderator dealing with the post in question.

As Ian stated, publicly discussing or contesting a moderator is a big no no as well.
 
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True, but you cant just deleting posts because you dont like it....

Yes, they can.

Their (own or rented) hardware, their (licensed or OS) software, their rules. If the operator of a forum decides to delete every 5th post that has an uneven number of characters, they can. If they decide to paint every third letter in the posts from users which username ends in "K" pink, they can. If they want to throw dice to determine which letters to capitalize, they can.

The only thing they have to abide by are their local laws. Which, in a lot of cases, may include the protection of minors (whether those minors like it or not, or could teach the people making those laws a thing or two about swearing). So that request to make the swear word filter switchable would also require _much_ stricter TOS for the forum and access control with age verification. Are you willing to pay for that?
 

Jenner

I wish I was English like my hero Tj.
I wouldn't be opposed to having an option, but yeah.... FD's house, FD's rules.

I help police the profanity rules on the forum, but I'm certainly not adverse to using colorful language elsewhere. :)
 
Oh sure, the younger users! I bet they swear more than we do. Could teach us some fresh new profanities while they're on the forum.

It's interesting how one can throw one urine bomb (I can't say the word that starts with P and ends with ISS for some reason) and all of a sudden there's a gathering of sniffing moderators. Can I say pee? Or even that is off-limits? The point is not that there's a profanity filter in place, but that it's waaay too sensitive.

Whatever, not my forum, not my rules.
 
I think what people are forgetting here is that there's a big difference between censorship (by a government, for example, which is constitutionally prohibited in the US) and having rules in a private forum, or in a game. There's already been a few court cases that have ruled private forums and venues have the absolute right to decide what is or is not appropriate language or behavior within the boundaries of the private venue. If the creators of a private venue decide they want to create such a place where profanity is not permitted, it is their absolute right to do so. You can of course disagree with them for doing so, but they are not obligated to change what they are doing because of it.

I'm sure there's more than a few types of behaviors most people would prefer not to have in their homes or businesses or places of worship. Nobody questions that right. But as soon as it's an internet venue for some reason that right inexplicably gets called into question.
 

I started using "behind" instead of [insert the more profane variant for "behind" here], but it simply doesn't have the same oomph.

private forums and venues have the absolute right to decide what is or is not appropriate language or behavior. I'm sure there's more than a few types of behaviors most people would prefer not to have in their homes or businesses or places of worship
Oh, I have definitely said [insert more profane variant for "pee" here] both at home, at work and in a place of worship. It surprised me it's off-limits here.
 
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In general, private companies should keep from censoring altogether.
In general, people should act maturely and not post offensive drivel for lulz. If you have to swear to make a point, it isn't a great point.

E: D is a family friendly game with children / teens playing, so keep the censorship, or as I call it, idiot insulation, in place.
 
I'm not gonna complain about the forum's nanny filter. You don't even have to sign in to read the forums. My issue is that this is a game where you can buy and sell slaves, murder innocent civilians, and steal things for profit--all defined as valid gameplay, even given out as missions--and yet you can't say assault.
 
I'm not gonna complain about the forum's nanny filter.

I most certainly will when there are filters out there that allow a person to be able to make reference to a legitimate use of a anally retentiveness vs. being just infantile/adolescent use of the word.

We're in the 21st century where such nanny filters exist. Not the early stages of the internet where they lacked the complexity.
 
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