The quest for enlightenment

Jaylem · Nov 27, 2017

I have currently found a system with a wide range of possible natural marvels. there are planets with water(not sure how that works), nitrogen, iron and silicate magma as well as Co2 and water geysers (sadly no water vapour..)

my aim is to find these natural wonders on each planet, once I do. I will publish them for all to witness. maybe even arrange a list of sites as a tour....

this system is within the bubble, I am really hoping that nobody has discovered these yet.

wish me luck, first planet I have skipped for now after a few hours of nothingness.

CMDR Jaylem

Jaylem · Nov 27, 2017

Nope, 3 planets and many hours later and still not a single sign of anything, manually flew through 100+ Km of canyon and still nothing.....

Sapyx · Nov 28, 2017

Jaylem said:
...there are planets with water(not sure how that works)...magma...CMDR Jaylem

It's all about what's normal for the location. If a planet is so cold that water on the surface is always solid, but the core of the planet is made of liquid water, then any volcanoes that form on that planet are going to spew out "Water magma", molten water (which here on Earth we just call plain old "water"), which promptly cools and solidifies to form water rock (which here on Earth we call "freezing into ice"). If Saturn;s moon TItan has volacanoes, they are probably water magma volcanoes. The same goes for nitrogen magma and the even rarer ammonia magma.

Any volcanologist playing ED has probably ground their teeth away reading "magma" all the time though; "magma" is what you call it when it's still inside the planet. Once it erupts out of a volcano, it's called "lava", not "magma".

All of which is a moot point in ED, sadly, since volcanoes have not yet been implemented. I suspect you won't find any geysers on a planet slated as having any kind of "magma" volcanism, since "magma" creates real, proper, Mount-Fuji-style volcanoes, not geysers and fumaroles. I am assuming that "magma" planets will get proper volcanoes scattered across them, once they are implemented.

Jaylem · Nov 29, 2017

Sapyx said:
It's all about what's normal for the location. If a planet is so cold that water on the surface is always solid, but the core of the planet is made of liquid water, then any volcanoes that form on that planet are going to spew out "Water magma", molten water (which here on Earth we just call plain old "water"), which promptly cools and solidifies to form water rock (which here on Earth we call "freezing into ice"). If Saturn;s moon TItan has volacanoes, they are probably water magma volcanoes. The same goes for nitrogen magma and the even rarer ammonia magma.

Any volcanologist playing ED has probably ground their teeth away reading "magma" all the time though; "magma" is what you call it when it's still inside the planet. Once it erupts out of a volcano, it's called "lava", not "magma".

All of which is a moot point in ED, sadly, since volcanoes have not yet been implemented. I suspect you won't find any geysers on a planet slated as having any kind of "magma" volcanism, since "magma" creates real, proper, Mount-Fuji-style volcanoes, not geysers and fumaroles. I am assuming that "magma" planets will get proper volcanoes scattered across them, once they are implemented.

ah yes, I had a slight feeling that'd be the case. Thankyou for the clarity on that!

awesome! seeing a liquid nitrogen or ammonia volcano would be pretty sweet as the liquid turns to vapour on the surface, driving through it with the SRV would shatter the tires but still fun I guess.

Kenneth McGrew · Nov 29, 2017

the problem i find with volcanism...

i expected..

FD delivered

what next...

^^ and that is absolutely stunning, and if FD delivered, it really would be a natural wonder

i admire your optimism CMDR but "natural Wonders" i don't think you will find.

Jonny Shiloh · Nov 29, 2017

Good luck Commander! I've been trying for a while now to locate vulcanism on teeny tiny worlds (smallest so far was 333km) and have had absolutely no luck whatsoever. I've a long list of itemised bookmarks (prefacing object name with type of vulcanism reported and size of object) which I'm probably going to throw open to the professional geyser hunters when I'm back from my latest surveying mission out in the black - given it's highly likely I'm never going to go looking again, it would be a shame to see them go to waste.

[VR] optimal_909 · Nov 29, 2017

Sapyx said:
It's all about what's normal for the location. If a planet is so cold that water on the surface is always solid, but the core of the planet is made of liquid water, then any volcanoes that form on that planet are going to spew out "Water magma", molten water (which here on Earth we just call plain old "water"), which promptly cools and solidifies to form water rock (which here on Earth we call "freezing into ice"). If Saturn;s moon TItan has volacanoes, they are probably water magma volcanoes. The same goes for nitrogen magma and the even rarer ammonia magma.

Any volcanologist playing ED has probably ground their teeth away reading "magma" all the time though; "magma" is what you call it when it's still inside the planet. Once it erupts out of a volcano, it's called "lava", not "magma".

All of which is a moot point in ED, sadly, since volcanoes have not yet been implemented. I suspect you won't find any geysers on a planet slated as having any kind of "magma" volcanism, since "magma" creates real, proper, Mount-Fuji-style volcanoes, not geysers and fumaroles. I am assuming that "magma" planets will get proper volcanoes scattered across them, once they are implemented.

I think those volcanoes are already in place, some planets features these cone-shaped mountains already:

Kenneth Mcgrew said:
the problem i find with volcanism...

i expected..

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/attachment.php?attachmentid=55404&d=1439567949

FD delivered

http://i.imgur.com/Zqfhj41.jpg?fb

what next...

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...803982/benandrews_ice_planet.jpg?format=1000w

^^ and that is absolutely stunning, and if FD delivered, it really would be a natural wonder

i admire your optimism CMDR but "natural Wonders" i don't think you will find.

Where have you got the last image? I'm optimistic, but not that optimistic.

iain666 · Nov 29, 2017

Sapyx said:
Any volcanologist playing ED has probably ground their teeth away reading "magma" all the time though; "magma" is what you call it when it's still inside the planet. Once it erupts out of a volcano, it's called "lava", not "magma".

My specialism was palaeontology rather than volcanology, but after decades of grinding my teeth at Hollywood's egregious abuses of the subject FDev's use of magma is fairly innocuous and just washes over me...

Kenneth McGrew · Dec 8, 2017

optimal_909 said:
I think those volcanoes are already in place, some planets features these cone-shaped mountains already:
http://i.imgur.com/3zULtLq.jpg

Where have you got the last image? I'm optimistic, but not that optimistic.

frontiers own concept art i believe, i forget where.. i've slept since then and spent the past 8 days fighting zombies in Willamettes' mall

Mengy · Dec 8, 2017

Good luck Jaylem. In the past I've spent literally weeks looking for volcanism just on a single planet, scouring an entire system for them is a humongous task. It gets frustrating after the first couple dozen hours, I really wish we had better tools to find these things. I don't want them handed to us on a silver platter, but some direction would certainly be awesome.

May you have better success than I normally do!

Jaylem · Dec 8, 2017

Thankyou everyone for wishing me luck, I got frustrated and left for a bit and went to previously discovered sites to get an idea of what I am looking for. and found some interesting info.

They do NOT always occur in canyons, in fact. apart from New Moon I have yet to find one in a canyon. nor do they actually spawn at the base of mountains. I have been searching in all the wrong places!!!

With my computer it seems (or it could not) it has a very poor refresh rate, I was circling around a zone for almost a minute before the site magically appeared in front of me. same for the geysers in Sol but they spawned just a little faster. this means I could be finding sites, but will not know until I fly over them and possibly miss.

in regards to the last post, I have suggested (and many others) to have either Geothermic or topographical maps in planetary map feature.

-geothermic would present hot and cool locations on the map, hottest points being the best candidates for volcanism.

-topographical would give us the ability to guess the best points of depression (if the canyon theory is correct)

I will continue my journey in a little bit, right now I just need to know what I am looking for!

take care!