Star Citizen Discussions v7

hunvagy

hunvagy
Agony_Aunt said:
$50

$50

$50

$50

Almost the price of a AAA game, for a plot of land, that according to CIG is not pay to win and will confer no advantage over anyone who doesn't pay.

Here's a thought, let's say a company wants to raise money, but needs some way of doing it through transactions, because they can't do it in another way for some reasons...... i'm not saying any more, because then i'd be getting into naughty land territory with forum rules, but think about it.

In other news, someone on reddit joked CIG should start a crypto currency. Just imagine, Star Coin, the latest revolution in crypto currencies. Never been done before, with much fidelity. Let your computers generate SC credits for you!
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https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?page_id=60538

Just scroll down to the lot bundles. And then tell me where CR got this from ;)
 

Cmdr-Wotherspoon

Cmdr-Wotherspoon
Barking_Mad said:
It's an alpha. It always is.
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No. It's an alpha if you criticise the lack of features or the bugs. It's a game if you point out how long it's been in development with nothing significant to show for it. Many people allegedly have fun playing the game. I'm sure some do.

But you can't criticise it, because it comes with the Alpha-Charm of Immunity from Critical Thinking.
 

metatheurgist

metatheurgist
Steve O B Have said:
No I mean that this is sinking to new lows to scam money out of the faithful... It reeks of desperation.
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Agony_Aunt said:
Holy Guacamole!!!

Ok, its confirmed. People are idiots.
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Agony gets what I'm getting at. ;)

hunvagy said:
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?page_id=60538

Just scroll down to the lot bundles. And then tell me where CR got this from ;)
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The subtitle of that page is "Forsaken Virtues". That's just too funny. [haha]
 

BaronDeKalb

BaronDeKalb
Alas these are Dark Days selling virtual plots, maybe you can bury your virtual pilot there in the End which will come sooner than soonish if this stuff does not stop.
 

hunvagy

hunvagy
metatheurgist said:
Agony gets what I'm getting at. ;)



The subtitle of that page is "Forsaken Virtues". That's just too funny. [haha]
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And that page alone shows what it can devolve into. Not saying it will, but honestly, looking at the prices they ask for the big ships, I would not put it behind them. And honestly, no amount of "you can buy it for in-game currency later" will make it better. Buy some land! .. And an Idris!
 

Britney

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Agony_Aunt said:
Holy Guacamole!!!

Ok, its confirmed. People are idiots.
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Not people, gamers. I mean come on, a decent amount of veteran gamers was fed up with being milked by video game companies. A guy who made a fortune through this industry offers redemption and revenge, but asks for loads of money in advance to set up a new company to start the revolution. Sounds legit, gamers pay.
 
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dayrth

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dayrth
Agony_Aunt said:
In other news, someone on reddit joked CIG should start a crypto currency. Just imagine, Star Coin, the latest revolution in crypto currencies. Never been done before, with much fidelity. Let your computers generate SC credits for you!
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UEC?
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
n4p0l3on said:
Lmao, basic? As opposed to what, exactly?

ED clearly has more gameplay than Wing Commander, X-Wing vs TIE, Freespace, I-War and the likes...

ED certainly has equal or often more gameplay than Privateer, Freelancer, X series, Evochron series, Starpoint Gemini series and the likes...

This is a prevalent issue with so many of ED critics : they don't actually understand space sims. Because if they do, then they would realize that saying ED has basic or no gameplay is nonsense considering what other games in the same genre have always had.

These critics saying ED has no gameplay is like saying FSX and DCS has no gameplay because they don't have shooter gameplay (legs), nor they have AAA cinematics or RPG elements, like those found in today mainstream games.

That's ridiculous isn't it?
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I think when people say that ED has basic gameplay, they always forget to add "....comparing to what is possible and what's in my mind and how THERES NO ULTIMATE GAME WHERE I CAN RUB MY BACKSIDE AT MARS ROCK".

Basically they compare it to their imagination.
 

Cmdr Snuffler

Cmdr Snuffler
Mucka said:
The game is about 100 times greater in scope than elite dangerous and all with better graphics, of course it takes a long time.
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The thing with SC is that the scope is all theory at this point.
If FD released their internal development timeline and expected features for the next ten years then I think it would be very impressive.
I am a software architect and I have written some server software. In five years time it will be better than Azure and o365...maybe ten years. The list of features I want to add is just huge and dwarfs o365 and Azure.
Do you think my theory crafting and some rough features jotted down on the back of a napkin, that may or may not be implemented, is enough to get all of MS Azure customers to move over to my server software tomorrow?
^true story ;)
Theory means nothing...the only thing that matters is what is released and actually exists.
 

Snarfbuckle

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dayrth said:
It's a scam.

Funny, I don't feel at all embarrassed.
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Nor should you.

I do disagree with your assessment however and think there are several other issues with CIG including some dishonest marketing and crappy information flow combined with extremely poor predictions with how long they think a job would take.

But embarrassment because you look at a project and feel it has several issues that could be seen as a scam, no, that you should not.
 

GaryII

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Cmdr Eagleboy said:
Ohh dear these guys obviously have seen zero salt about PvP in ED. LOL :)
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After being killed 5 times and after looking at insurance screen for 5 hours, they will have enough salt...

They currently are at year 2013-14 if we compare with ED timeline everybody are happy about the game...

Once they discover that dreamcrafting gameplay (like piracy :D ) does not work in real life..oh boy..salt incoming..
 

Skizomeuh

Skizomeuh
"it was one of the best moments in 30 years of PC Gaming. Tech demo my ****."

Yeah, let's talk about that when the guy will be returning from a exploration trip, cargo full of rares, and a time-limited quest to finish, or going to meet with his corp for a special event. We'll see if if it's still his best moment.
 

Snarfbuckle

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Mucka said:
This is the thread that just keeps giving - it is almost a cult like echo chamber. [yesnod]
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Cultist are rampant on both sides, let's not throw rocks in glass houses.

Mucka said:
The game is about 100 times greater in scope than elite dangerous and all with better graphics, of course it takes a long time.
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The game MIGHT be 100 times greater in scope AFTER release but at this time we have the following:

- A test server with a few locations and now planets with POOR performance
- A dogfight arena
- A freeflight arena
- A FPS arena
- A limited cityscape demo to walk in
- No release date on a single player campaign game that have no NEED of all that scope
- A majority of game mechanics are highly theoretical still after YEARS of work

I might be as bad as any fanboy at times but let's stay within the realms of reality.

- We have heard no info about SQ42 release since the LAST 3.0 was supposed to be released with the Vertical slice
- 3.0 V2 has been delayed at least...4 months now?
- They have said no SQ42 info because they do not want to spoil the story (like no game campaign have any filler missions just to show gameplay)

Do I think it's a scam, no, i do think we will get the game, eventually but let's not get ahead of ourselves on what the "game" HAS when it's a lot of theory.

That's like reviewing a movie based on a script alone and the choice of actors.
 

VR jefranklin18

VR jefranklin18
Mucka said:
This is the thread that just keeps giving - it is almost a cult like echo chamber. [yesnod]

Land claims - a great idea for in game but as a money grab?
Pretty feeble.
But here is the point as with all funding, you don't have to buy and fund and you can buy this in game.
So long as those things are true it is really just a matter of optics and morality or PTW are irrelevant.

As for the smoke and mirrors accusation, it is just mindless trolling at this stage.
Criticism on development time and stretch goals are pertinent but people embarrass themselves by suggesting it is a scam or pulling conspiracy theories out of their .
If you really think that then maybe you should be asking why ED does not have first person after all this time? Why it has no interiors to structures? Why you are welded for eternity into your pilot seat. Why physical interactions are almost entirely represented through what looks like an Excel spreadsheet.
The game is about 100 times greater in scope than elite dangerous and all with better graphics, of course it takes a long time.
It may even be that the game is too big in scope and too complex to weave together the disparate parts as a functioning cohesive whole - we will see.
But for now progress is being made, slow and painful at times, but progress.
Meanwhile let the hype into the vacant dark hole that once contained your soul - behold the light and worship your new God!
https://youtu.be/Vpoi95LbFrw
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Dulce et decorum est pro somnium datum viaticus
 
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