Banner class bulk cargo ship

Mrat13

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Anyone else find the cargo ship nearby the rescue ship for the Oracle station.

Read the ship log uplink, where it says they tried to hail the thargoids, but gave up and abandoned ship.

Now, why would you hail someone who is shooting you? It doesn't make sense. However, it would make sense if being in close proximity to the thargoids caused the damage, then they'd try to hail to get them to back away. This would mean this wasn't an attack on the ship, and the thargoids might not be as hostile as we've been led to believe.

So, am I missing something, or do you think my idea is sound? Love to hear your thoughts.
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
Mrat said:
Anyone else find the cargo ship nearby the rescue ship for the Oracle station.

Read the ship log uplink, where it says they tried to hail the thargoids, but gave up and abandoned ship.

Now, why would you hail someone who is shooting you? It doesn't make sense. However, it would make sense if being in close proximity to the thargoids caused the damage, then they'd try to hail to get them to back away. This would mean this wasn't an attack on the ship, and the thargoids might not be as hostile as we've been led to believe.

So, am I missing something, or do you think my idea is sound? Love to hear your thoughts.
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That ship isn't called "Bruce" by chance? Oh, Bulk cargo ship, not Hulk cargo ship...


It could have been damaged by a Thargon swarm released by the thargoid ship.....
 

Daxk StarCrasher

Daxk StarCrasher
For the same reason some one would shout "DON'T TAZE ME BRO!" If I was defenseless and some one started shooting at me, I would be telling them almost anything to get them to stop.
 

777Driver

777Driver
Mrat said:
Now, why would you hail someone who is shooting you? It doesn't make sense. .
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Makes perfect sense to any rational person. You would want to communicate with an aggressor to - A: Let them know you are not hostile B: Find out why they are being hostile.


Unless dealing with a psychopath, opening a dialogue is normally the best way to try and diffuse a situation.
 
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Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Mrat said:
Anyone else find the cargo ship nearby the rescue ship for the Oracle station.

Read the ship log uplink, where it says they tried to hail the thargoids, but gave up and abandoned ship.

Now, why would you hail someone who is shooting you? It doesn't make sense. However, it would make sense if being in close proximity to the thargoids caused the damage, then they'd try to hail to get them to back away. This would mean this wasn't an attack on the ship, and the thargoids might not be as hostile as we've been led to believe.

So, am I missing something, or do you think my idea is sound? Love to hear your thoughts.
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Doesn't in make sense to try and be friendly when you encounter a new intelligent life form, and try to communicate first?
And only then, when it turns out the aliens are hostile and clearly technologically superior, to give up the fight and abandon ship?

Well, yes, judging by the average Elite player, it probably doesn't make sense. :/
But to me, it does. I grew up with captains Kirk, Picard and Shon.
 

kofeyh

kofeyh
Chris Simon said:
Doesn't in make sense to try and be friendly when you encounter a new intelligent life form, and try to communicate first?
And only then, when it turns out the aliens are hostile and clearly technologically superior, to give up the fight and abandon ship?

Well, yes, judging by the average Elite player, it probably doesn't make sense. :/
But to me, it does. I grew up with captains Kirk, Picard and Shon.
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This is Frontier. Not Roddenbery. And Kirk was happy to crack skulls and woo women any day of the week. Not everything we meet, will be nice. Other races might be? This one isn’t.

Now. Is it convenient if the thargoids are nice. And we have nice CGs and nice hookups and nice little human thargoid offspring and nice white picket fences and we are just very nice. Well I suppose so.

We’re very comfortable wih the notion it’s our universe and there’s nothing out there. It’s massive overconfidence because anything at our level or better than us isn’t going to see a highly unstable race like humanity in any great light.
 
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Stealthie

Stealthie
So, we're saying that these non-aggressive Thargoids just happened to be in IR-W D1-55 and happened across the cargo ship and it started taking damage and catching fire and bits started falling off it... and then they went and did exactly the same thing to the station?

I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice if the situation was ambiguous but it's getting less and less plausible that the Thargoids are intended as anything more than a "big bad".

Also, after visiting The Oracle, I was disappointed to find a distinct lack of Thargoids. [sad]
Might've been more fun if a Thargoid ship showed up every so often so players would have to work together(ish) to engage them in combat while others carried out the rescues.
 

kofeyh

kofeyh
Stealthie said:
So, we're saying that these non-aggressive Thargoids just happened to be in IR-W D1-55 and happened across the cargo ship and it started taking damage and catching fire and bits started falling off it... and then they went and did exactly the same thing to the station?
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Well of course. It's just a misunderstanding, it's simply not possible that they are bad, because this would mean the endless pontificating that they were kindly flower people, might be.. inaccurate.

I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice if the situation was ambiguous but it's getting less and less plausible that the Thargoids are intended as anything more than a "big bad".
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Yes but if they are not bad, this is more interesting (read: if they are not bad, it aligns with endless commentary that say's they aren't and it also legitimises the need to not to have to do anything). Also pew pew is bad and stupid. Ignore that the latest action has nothing to do with shooting, because that's also super inconvenient to admit lol!

Also, after visiting The Oracle, I was disappointed to find a distinct lack of Thargoids. [sad]
Might've been more fun if a Thargoid ship showed up every so often so players would have to work together(ish) to engage them in combat while others carried out the rescues.
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Yes but then there would be aliens shooting and they definitely don't deploy highly destructive weapons that certainly don't rapidly debilitate ships and certainly never fight because that's what they want you to believe. It's all a big conspiracy! <pops on tinfoil beanie>

.. or - thargoids are amoral (possibly xenophobic) entities that don't take kindly to others being nearby, or pinching their stuff and might not have our best interests at stake (because the last time we did sort of deploy horrific biological weapons of mass destruction) for some odd reason. Maybe they don't give a crap about our longevity or assumed right to just plod around like we own the place.

Just a thought. o7
 
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Zeede

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I found the Banner bulk cargo ship. It looked like it had seen better days.

I hadn't been in that system prior to tonight, but there was also a distress call about 100 ls further from the cargo ship, where I found a whole fleet of Federation ships that had been blown up/disabled.
 

D.G.Cerberus

D.G.Cerberus
777Driver said:
Makes perfect sense to any rational person. You would want to communicate with an aggressor to - A: Let them know you are not hostile B: Find out why they are being hostile.


Unless dealing with a psychopath, opening a dialogue is normally the best way to try and diffuse a situation.
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And C: To tell them to knock it the hell off!
 
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