Nope. What would you even die of? NASA has studied this quite a bit. If you get curious Wikipedia or Atomic Rockets should have the info.
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Nope. What would you even die of? NASA has studied this quite a bit. If you get curious Wikipedia or Atomic Rockets should have the info.
Amazing. There are laser swords, the force, blaster pistols and plasma crossbows, 60km wide space ships and foxes made of salt crystals, yet people argue whether or not it is plausible to survive 30 seconds in vacuum.
Amazing. There are laser swords, the force, blaster pistols and plasma crossbows, 60km wide space ships and foxes made of salt crystals, yet people argue whether or not it is plausible to survive 30 seconds in vacuum.
That all may be true, but it still doesn't mean that the writers are not obligated to make sense within the framework of their fiction. That scene with Leia was stupid, even by Star Wars standards. I'm chalking it up to their way of honoring Carrie Fisher. Personally I've always found her character annoying, even more so as an old woman.
She was a rootin tootin blaster shootin hero when she rescued the menfolk aboard the first deathstar.
Mark Hammill was a bit worried about Rian Johnson's scripting angle for ep8 but then came around to seeing Johnson's point:
The benevolent older Jedi teaching another young padawan thing had been done to death in previews episodes.
Seeing the flick left me thinking afterwards about the story arc(s) and I'm very satisfied that ep8 turned a lot of stuff on it's head.
The benevolent older Jedi teaching another young padawan thing had been done to death in previews episodes.
Seeing the flick left me thinking afterwards about the story arc(s) and I'm very satisfied that ep8 turned a lot of stuff on it's head.
I have exactly zero qualms about female lead characters. None. But just as female characters shouldn't be made artificially weak to make the males appear strong, the reverse is also bad. Stereotypes go both ways. And as far as TLJ is concerned: There was zero reason not to share the battle plan with their best pilot. None. Zilch. And heck, even telling him that there WAS a plan, and that she just doesn't want to share it with him would've been better than the blank stare she gave. That just made no sense. They did this just to add some unneeded drama, and to make Poe look like even more of a testosterone-driven hothead, someone who is just too stupid to grasp deeper tactics. Well, if you count "let's run to an abandoned base" as a deep tactic.
Goose4291
Banned
In their defence, the actor who played him died in 2016
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-35965835
Still a shame he got punked out so cheaply.
My comment was actually a joke..
(Pssst... i was being a little sexist)But i do agree with James Bond being a...Marty-Stu..??
But he's British.... so it makes sense.
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My comment was actually a joke..
Yeah, but it kinda annoys me when people call every strong heroine Mary Sue....
I agree. I think comparing Rey to a Mary Sue archetype is off base by a few marks. Rey was left on a hostile planet to fend for herself as a child among some pretty rough customers, and when we first met her she was base jumping into wrecked star destroyers to salvage them and engaging in fisticuffs against multiple assailants. It was clear that while she didn't know anything about her force heritage she was highly skilled and tougher than nails. It's no stretch to further think that her natural affinity for the force, her raw "brute" strength, coupled with her martial skills from growing up on Tatooine would yield the type of person that could do what she is portrayed as doing in the films. There's a lot to complain about in this latest SW, but Rey isn't one of them. Not unless you just can't handle a woman being the tough heroine, in which case nothing is going to please you.
Nah, Jason, that's complete tosh. Her back story is that she's a tinker. Tough as nails? Sure. Good with a sword? How? Has she even seen one before? How about the amazing starship repair skills she has? Where does a tinker stealing scrap from crashed ships learn how to maintain hi tech equipment? How about her amazing piloting skills? Where did they come from? How about her instant ability to speak Wookie, and her bloody annoying insistence on translating for Luke. How many Wookies did you see on Jakku?
Or take the opposite approach. What is her weakness? Where can her character develop? Is there anyone in the entire story arc who doesn't instantly love her, or who doesn't take her seriously? Even the space alien walrus's took an instant shine to her!
She couldn't be any more OP if Matthew Ward himself had written her. Tbh I think her missing parents might be Kaldor Draigo and one of the 5th edition Sisters Of Battle!
Look, if an orphan from the Sudan stepped into the Western World tomorrow, after spending her entire life salvaging scrap in Darfur, it would be reasonable to expect her to be smart and resilient. She might even be able to get a motorbike or jeep working. But it would be completely unreasonable to believe she could fix and fly helicopters, operate hi tech weapons, converse in languages she's never even heard before and be loved and adored by everyone she meets.
I know it's fiction, but she's not a strong female character, or a tough heroine. She's a Disney Princess with a lightsabre- sugar and spice, all things nice. No weaknesses, no flaws, no real issues beyond the Disneyeske babe in the woods origin story.
Or take the opposite approach. What is her weakness? Where can her character develop? Is there anyone in the entire story arc who doesn't instantly love her, or who doesn't take her seriously? Even the space alien walrus's took an instant shine to her!
She couldn't be any more OP if Matthew Ward himself had written her. Tbh I think her missing parents might be Kaldor Draigo and one of the 5th edition Sisters Of Battle!
Look, if an orphan from the Sudan stepped into the Western World tomorrow, after spending her entire life salvaging scrap in Darfur, it would be reasonable to expect her to be smart and resilient. She might even be able to get a motorbike or jeep working. But it would be completely unreasonable to believe she could fix and fly helicopters, operate hi tech weapons, converse in languages she's never even heard before and be loved and adored by everyone she meets.
I know it's fiction, but she's not a strong female character, or a tough heroine. She's a Disney Princess with a lightsabre- sugar and spice, all things nice. No weaknesses, no flaws, no real issues beyond the Disneyeske babe in the woods origin story.
Nah, Jason, that's complete tosh. Her back story is that she's a tinker. Tough as nails? Sure. Good with a sword? How? Has she even seen one before? How about the amazing starship repair skills she has? Where does a tinker stealing scrap from crashed ships learn how to maintain hi tech equipment? How about her amazing piloting skills? Where did they come from? How about her instant ability to speak Wookie, and her bloody annoying insistence on translating for Luke. How many Wookies did you see on Jakku?
Or take the opposite approach. What is her weakness? Where can her character develop? Is there anyone in the entire story arc who doesn't instantly love her, or who doesn't take her seriously? Even the space alien walrus's took an instant shine to her!
She couldn't be any more OP if Matthew Ward himself had written her. Tbh I think her missing parents might be Kaldor Draigo and one of the 5th edition Sisters Of Battle!
Look, if an orphan from the Sudan stepped into the Western World tomorrow, after spending her entire life salvaging scrap in Darfur, it would be reasonable to expect her to be smart and resilient. She might even be able to get a motorbike or jeep working. But it would be completely unreasonable to believe she could fix and fly helicopters, operate hi tech weapons, converse in languages she's never even heard before and be loved and adored by everyone she meets.
I know it's fiction, but she's not a strong female character, or a tough heroine. She's a Disney Princess with a lightsabre- sugar and spice, all things nice. No weaknesses, no flaws, no real issues beyond the Disneyeske babe in the woods origin story.
Jeez Bill, I think you're taking it too seriously. No character in any Star Wars movie ever would withstand that particular line of reasoning.
Goose4291
Banned
I can see where you're coming from, but I kind of think it's justified in this situation, particularly if you compare her with the original strong female in Sci-Fi that is Ripley.
I disagree with you here bud (shocking I know, but this isn't a PvP/PvE thread
). There is a lot wrong with Rey as a character that makes her into a Mary-Sue as much like the original one, her amazing powers cover all the character arch-types of the movie.I really like Ridley as an actress (I find she's really good at physical comedy. The whole 'reach out' thing in this movie, and her "Oh mai Guuurd. Are you Han Solo, is this the Millenium Falcon! Squee!" fangirl schtick in the last was equally hilarious) but I genuinely regard the character as a Mary-Sue of the highest order (but still nowhere near as bad as Mara Jade was).
As beautifully shot as it was, someone living in the belly of a wrecked AT-AT who's never been off-world shouldn't be able to jump into the cockpit of the Falcon and do a quasi Death Star II run through the belly of a wrecked Star Destroyer
Anyone of this age, who takes any MOVIE this seriously, probably deserves to have it ruined for them, imho.
"Movie took it's toll on me emotionally .. and physically" .. hahaha
Yeah that's ridiculous. It's just a movie. It's ok to be disappointed or even angry at such a waste, but some folks get overly dramatic over things.
