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jasonbarron said:
I think it's far too early to consider jumping ship. My advice would be only consider AMD if you are already in the process of acquiring parts for a new pc build (and I probably wouldn't even then), and if you have an existing Intel chip just sit still and see how this all shakes out.

No way no how are consumers going to take a significant performance hit and Intel's going to just go "Welp, sorry folks!" Plus, it doesn't really even sound like it's going to be a noticeable problem for gamers and casual users anyway.

Still too early to get overly excited.
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Also sound advice. Like I said, I'm only asking questions.

And I make no secret that I'm experiencing some not so entirely justified hyperbole.

There's definitely some irrational panic in my head right now.
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
Un1k0rn said:
Also sound advice. Like I said, I'm only asking questions.

And I make no secret that I'm experiencing some not so entirely justified hyperbole.

There's definitely some irrational panic in my head right now.
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Don't worry, you're not alone. Plenty of people are wondering where this leaves them. But, if you already have a computer you might as well just see what happens before you consider spending any money. Personally I just finished up building my fancy new PC with an i7 7820x Intel chip and Asus Prime x299 Deluxe mobo & 1080 ti just a few weeks ago, so you have to know that I'm highly interested in this story myself:)
 

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jasonbarron said:
Don't worry, you're not alone. Plenty of people are wondering where this leaves them. But, if you already have a computer you might as well just see what happens before you consider spending any money. Personally I just finished up building my fancy new PC with an i7 7820x Intel chip and Asus Prime x299 Deluxe mobo & 1080 ti just a few weeks ago, so you have to know that I'm highly interested in this story myself:)
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Aye, you're right. I think the best thing I can do for now, to help my stress levels, (make no mistake, things like this cause me a lot of stress), the best thing I can do is put the keyboard and mouse away, forget about the computer for a few days, and go back to it when the patch is live, and see what happens then.

If I do that, and my performance does turn out to be gimped, I suspect a prior break will put me at ease. I'm a weird fellow. I do have to consider the stress these things cause me.

I think a few days on Xbox won't hurt. Whatever your opinion on consoles, it's hard to dispute that they are fairly foolproof. Which is why I like having one. When I'm in a delicate state, such as now, I need less delicate things to do.
 

-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
I only have an i5 2500k at the moment. It works, and it works in VR too, but I suspect that updating to a Ryzen 1600 would give me a much better experience in ED as ED would use all 12 of the thread. But I think I will wait until the the 400 series of mothernboard comes out and the slight updated processors come too. So it will be I assime the Ryzen 2600 but with a faster clock speed then the 1600 and hopefully better infinity fabric latency and better ram management.
 

Jon flint

Jon flint
Well, I've got til Friday to return my unopened 8700k+z370 gaming 7 motherboard (retailer has a 90day no quibble refund policy).

Going to wait and see what news we get tomorrow (thurs), if nothing good, I'm just going to grab a refund while I can and pull the trigger on the snazzy MSI board and an 1800x to fill the gap until the Ryzen refresh is launched. Only current concern is memory compatibility, by the looks of it I *might* get the 32gb kit I brought for the intel system working, bit probably not at it's 3200MHz speeds.. here's hoping it works at all, that ram was damn pricey!
 

-VR- Max Factor

-VR- Max Factor
Jon flint said:
Well, I've got til Friday to return my unopened 8700k+z370 gaming 7 motherboard (retailer has a 90day no quibble refund policy).

Going to wait and see what news we get tomorrow (thurs), if nothing good, I'm just going to grab a refund while I can and pull the trigger on the snazzy MSI board and an 1800x to fill the gap until the Ryzen refresh is launched. Only current concern is memory compatibility, by the looks of it I *might* get the 32gb kit I brought for the intel system working, bit probably not at it's 3200MHz speeds.. here's hoping it works at all, that ram was damn pricey!
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The ram should run at 3200 speeds now. Hopefully it's compatible.
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
Jon flint said:
Well, I've got til Friday to return my unopened 8700k+z370 gaming 7 motherboard (retailer has a 90day no quibble refund policy).

Going to wait and see what news we get tomorrow (thurs), if nothing good, I'm just going to grab a refund while I can and pull the trigger on the snazzy MSI board and an 1800x to fill the gap until the Ryzen refresh is launched. Only current concern is memory compatibility, by the looks of it I *might* get the 32gb kit I brought for the intel system working, bit probably not at it's 3200MHz speeds.. here's hoping it works at all, that ram was damn pricey!
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The more this story develops the more I think I would dump the Intel chip & mobo and go AMD if I were in your shoes. I don't see what you would have to lose, other than the time.

Max Factor said:
The ram should run at 3200 speeds now. Hopefully it's compatible.
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When I rebuilt my PC about a month ago (yes, I went with Intel lol) all I could afford was the 32 gigs of DDR4 running at 2000 mhz. Is there a noticeable difference climbing up to 3200 mhz?
 

dape

dape
jasonbarron said:
The more this story develops the more I think I would dump the Intel chip & mobo and go AMD if I were in your shoes. I don't see what you would have to lose, other than the time.



When I rebuilt my PC about a month ago (yes, I went with Intel lol) all I could afford was the 32 gigs of DDR4 running at 2000 mhz. Is there a noticeable difference climbing up to 3200 mhz?
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apparently Ryzen gets a bigger boost with faster RAM than Intel
 

-VR- Max Factor

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jasonbarron said:
The more this story develops the more I think I would dump the Intel chip & mobo and go AMD if I were in your shoes. I don't see what you would have to lose, other than the time.



When I rebuilt my PC about a month ago (yes, I went with Intel lol) all I could afford was the 32 gigs of DDR4 running at 2000 mhz. Is there a noticeable difference climbing up to 3200 mhz?
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There certainly will be for Ryzen CPUs. But faster ram in general will make a difference. Personally I would have gone for 16gig with higher speeds. 32 gig is a bit overkill unless you need it for something other than gaming.
 
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Space Dandy

Space Dandy
Not to be a debbie downer but I think AMD is getting patched too as it appears to be susceptible to spectre, what little I have read is that the patches will cover AMD machines aswell as intel machines.

Which systems are affected by Spectre?

Almost every system is affected by Spectre: Desktops, Laptops, Cloud Servers, as well as Smartphones. More specifically, all modern processors capable of keeping many instructions in flight are potentially vulnerable. In particular, we have verified Spectre on Intel, AMD, and ARM processors.
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https://meltdownattack.com/
 
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Jon flint

Jon flint
For those tracking the progress of the bug fix and it's performance impact...
[video=youtube_share;_qZksorJAuY]https://youtu.be/_qZksorJAuY[/video]
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
Less than 5% would be acceptable. But one thing which will remain indelible iwill be the Intel's reputation if the case is really serious
 

jasonbarron

jasonbarron
Patrick_68000 said:
Less than 5% would be acceptable. But one thing which will remain indelible iwill be the Intel's reputation if the case is really serious
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As the story develops it is becoming increasingly clear that Intel is not the only one with problems. Sounds more and more like pretty much every manufacturer is going to be effected.
 

the100thmonkey

the100thmonkey
Gaming performance doesn't seem to be affected, at least on Linux. Ars Technica are suggesting that gaming-in-general is likely to be unaffected, for all intents and purposes.

Just watched the video posted above - "desktop users, particularly gamers, really have nothing to worry about."

This disappoints me, as I was hoping to use the vulnerabilities and their patches to justify buying a Ryzen 7 CPU and MoBo, which I can now no longer do without lying.

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The Register have a rather amusing analysis of Intel's recent press release on the issue. It made me giggle more than once.
 
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jasonbarron

jasonbarron
the100thmonkey said:
Gaming performance doesn't seem to be affected, at least on Linux. Ars Technica are suggesting that gaming-in-general is likely to be unaffected, for all intents and purposes.

Just watched the video posted above - "desktop users, particularly gamers, really have nothing to worry about."

This disappoints me, as I was hoping to use the vulnerabilities and their patches to justify buying a Ryzen 7 CPU and MoBo, which I can now no longer do without lying.

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The Register have a rather amusing analysis of Intel's recent press release on the issue. It made me giggle more than once.
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That's an interesting statement, and the part I emboldened really caught my eye. I'm guessing that your wife is part of the decision making process when it comes to putting together your new PC?
 
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