Quality of Life Improvement: Input LAT/LON Co-ords and have a Surface Waypoint appear, similar to the surface scan mission Waypoint.

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Virandar

Virandar
Ralph Vargr said:
Watch enough You Tube selfies of tough approaches, and you will see them flipping through all that data on their MFD's. I know of one moderator who is *still* stuck in the 1880's as far as acknowledging things have moved on. He calls himself a "pedant". There's another "p" word I would use, among others. :(
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I'd love to be stuck in the 1880's in Elite. That would mean I can actually have some navigational tools as opposed to "eyeballing it" :D
 

Zcorruption

Zcorruption
Genar-Hofoen said:
Nothing like this has been announced yet, so no.
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Well theyve announced theyre going to be making it easier for you to find locations on the surface of planets and to navigate whilst on the planet so i feel like that pretty much covers this.

I doubt we'll see any detail until mid year
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
Zcorruption said:
Well theyve announced theyre going to be making it easier for you to find locations on the surface of planets and to navigate whilst on the planet so i feel like that pretty much covers this.

I doubt we'll see any detail until mid year
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Indeed. And until such time as something definite arrives, there's no need to close the thread as you suggested :)
 

Mengy

Mengy
Zcorruption said:
Well theyve announced theyre going to be making it easier for you to find locations on the surface of planets and to navigate whilst on the planet so i feel like that pretty much covers this.
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Frontier has announced the Codex, which sounds like it will provide new ways to get coordinates for things, but they have never announced improved tools to actually find those coordinates. Like surface way points for example.

The game desperately needs this, and I can't fathom how Frontier doesn't acknowledge it.
 

Ralph Vargr

Ralph Vargr
Mengy said:
Frontier has announced the Codex, which sounds like it will provide new ways to get coordinates for things, but they have never announced improved tools to actually find those coordinates. Like surface way points for example.

The game desperately needs this, and I can't fathom how Frontier doesn't acknowledge it.
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I can. Someone wants to keep their job. :(
 

Judz

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I was doing one of them tip-off's yesterday, the long/lat it gave me, well, I cant remember offhand but it was something like 42.22. -131.44. Now If I went to the exact specified location (.22. and .44.) there was nothing there at all, if it went to .22 and .44 then I could not at all get to them, even using ED bearing and ED bearing calculator it went way off. Flying to set .22. and .44. would tell me to fly in a heading of 108 or 110 depending on which tool I used. I could get there and there was just dust and rock. If I went to .22 and .44 it would tell me to use a heading of 320..or was it 310. I could get to one set of co-ords but the other was not be reachable without the first/current set changing.

After 3 hours or so and getting a bit *d off I gave up and I headed back to the current CG. On the way I thought it would be easy enough for the dev's to implement the location by having an accept mission button and that would give us the location and heading on the Planet, like the current search location missions for crash dumps etc.

If this has already been mentioned then apologies.
 
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Nagual

Nagual
Mengy said:
Frontier has announced the Codex, which sounds like it will provide new ways to get coordinates for things, but they have never announced improved tools to actually find those coordinates. Like surface way points for example.

The game desperately needs this, and I can't fathom how Frontier doesn't acknowledge it.
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It's 'Pride'. They made a decision and are sticking to it regardless of peoples reactions to it. They have used every excuse they could think of to not implement something along these lines. Fdev were asked by a brave brave soul during a live stream about PPBs (player planetary bookmarks - yeah you're right the acronym sucks PAPBs?... anyway..) I was told there wasn't a compelling immediate need for them... Since that statement we have had a lot of 'things' and much 'stuff' added to the surface of planets, and yet there are still no announcements of PAPBs ( am going to keep using this until someone thinks of a better one. It's my choice and I'm sticking to it :) )

So possible reasons for not adding such a system:

It's beyond their skill to do so.
It's about "progression". You're own skill progression.
They honestly don't see it as a problem or issue.
Pride. Stubbornness, call it what you will.
It's not PewPew.

Yes there is a significant bit of tongue in cheek there with a few of those reasons. It's certainly not out of their skill set to create such a system, and make it good. As for the others well I think it's a mixture of them really.
 

Genar-Hofoen

Genar-Hofoen
Nagual said:
It's 'Pride'. They made a decision and are sticking to it regardless of peoples reactions to it. They have used every excuse they could think of to not implement something along these lines. Fdev were asked by a brave brave soul during a live stream about PPBs (player planetary bookmarks - yeah you're right the acronym sucks PAPBs?... anyway..) I was told there wasn't a compelling immediate need for them... Since that statement we have had a lot of 'things' and much 'stuff' added to the surface of planets, and yet there are still no announcements of PAPBs ( am going to keep using this until someone thinks of a better one. It's my choice and I'm sticking to it :) )

So possible reasons for not adding such a system:

It's beyond their skill to do so.
It's about "progression". You're own skill progression.
They honestly don't see it as a problem or issue.
Pride. Stubbornness, call it what you will.
It's not PewPew.

Yes there is a significant bit of tongue in cheek there with a few of those reasons. It's certainly not out of their skill set to create such a system, and make it good. As for the others well I think it's a mixture of them really.
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To be fair, it could also simply have been that dev time wasn't allocated to the 'niceties' - just get the basics working first and then flesh 'em out later, like Frontier has been doing since the game's inception.

I still have faith that Frontier will do something to add things like the QoL addition requested in this thread. Time will tell.

Regards
 

Nagual

Nagual
Genar-Hofoen said:
To be fair, it could also simply have been that dev time wasn't allocated to the 'niceties' - just get the basics working first and then flesh 'em out later, like Frontier has been doing since the game's inception.

I still have faith that Frontier will do something to add things like the QoL addition requested in this thread. Time will tell.

Regards
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While I respect that point of view, I cannot agree. If we were still only a few months or even a year after the introduction of planetary landings then perhaps. Given how much effort has gone into updates that are now not as widely used as perhaps they had hoped, lets say I think the overall design plan that they have internally is by far not doing the game or it's players any real favours. How long after 2.0 do we think they might add these things - maybe if we are lucky this year, but then the proposed changes to Engineering aren't exactly well thought out either so I'm not going to hold my breath, asphyxiation is a killer you know.
 

Khelder

Khelder
Nagual said:
It's 'Pride'. They made a decision and are sticking to it regardless of peoples reactions to it. They have used every excuse they could think of to not implement something along these lines. Fdev were asked by a brave brave soul during a live stream about PPBs (player planetary bookmarks - yeah you're right the acronym sucks PAPBs?... anyway..) I was told there wasn't a compelling immediate need for them... Since that statement we have had a lot of 'things' and much 'stuff' added to the surface of planets, and yet there are still no announcements of PAPBs ( am going to keep using this until someone thinks of a better one. It's my choice and I'm sticking to it :) )

So possible reasons for not adding such a system:

It's beyond their skill to do so.
It's about "progression". You're own skill progression.
They honestly don't see it as a problem or issue.
Pride. Stubbornness, call it what you will.
It's not PewPew.

Yes there is a significant bit of tongue in cheek there with a few of those reasons. It's certainly not out of their skill set to create such a system, and make it good. As for the others well I think it's a mixture of them really.
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I think you got it with "They honestly don't see it as a problem or issue". It wouldn't surprise me at all if this one is lodged firmly in the "working as intended" file. And that's one of the things that bothers me the most about Frontier and Elite Dangerous. It's not that they can't do it. They are a very talented team. Besides, this particular request isn't exactly difficult. It's just that it doesn't seem to fit in with the gameplay they want.

I remember reading a FD dev response once (I don't have a reference. It may have been on Reddit. Who knows now). Someone wanted a tiny little marker added to the middle of the blue power zone indicator whatever-you-call-it so that it was easier to see when you were in the sweet spot. A small thing. I couldn't see how that would harm anyone and probably a heap of novice players would find it really useful. FD response was basically that they wouldn't do it because it would take the "skill" out of combat flying. I am sure there are some diehard fanatics that would agree with that. Personally, I couldn't facepalm hard enough.

Along those lines, I'm pretty sure that FD are in the camp with those few players who insist that features like this aren't needed because it takes away the "skill" of navigation. Again, I couldn't facepalm hard enough.
 

Khelder

Khelder
Nagual said:
While I respect that point of view, I cannot agree. If we were still only a few months or even a year after the introduction of planetary landings then perhaps. Given how much effort has gone into updates that are now not as widely used as perhaps they had hoped, lets say I think the overall design plan that they have internally is by far not doing the game or it's players any real favours. How long after 2.0 do we think they might add these things - maybe if we are lucky this year, but then the proposed changes to Engineering aren't exactly well thought out either so I'm not going to hold my breath, asphyxiation is a killer you know.
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Agree on this. It's not like the idea is new. Requests for variations have been floating around for ages. My navigation software was demonstrated months after Horizons release and I find it hard to believe that they never looked at that. If they didn't want to spend time on a complicated solution, a simple solution like Genar's could have been knocked together at any time. I doubt it would have taken much more effort than other minor "features" like ship transport that were thrown in on the spur of the moment.

But no. No comments. No progress. Don't hold your breath.
 

BartV

BartV
Why bother playing a game when the most critical point of the game (landing on planets) isn't fully developed?

It doesn't matter anymore, I only hope this feature is fixed in the upcoming update. It's likely that Frontier has picked up this problem by now.
What do you guys think?
 
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BartV

BartV
Dear people at Frontier,

Can you confirm that you're working on this feature or not.

Thank you.
The community
 

Snarfbuckle

S
Yes please, to zig-zag for coordinates instead of using the nav computer that can let me travel across the galaxy and plot courses between stellar objects SHOULD be able to show me a grid-coordinate.
 

Cavindar

Cavindar
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