T-9 New Trade King?

Vurosia

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So I heard the big ole boat T-9 got a fairly significant buff, and I mean like, insane game altering buff.

It can now haul up to 756 Tons with a shield. And I was able to get the max laden jump range to 20 LYS, 31 unladen.

How many people are going to even invest the time to get a Cutter now? Really the only appeal was the immense cargo space, which is now obtainable for a fraction of the price and MOST IMPORTANTLY NO RANK LOCK.

How many of y’all are switching back to the old faithful?
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
Vurosia said:
So I heard the big ole boat T-9 got a fairly significant buff, and I mean like, insane game altering buff.

It can now haul up to 756 Tons with a shield. And I was able to get the max laden jump range to 20 LYS, 31 unladen.
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Proof that we'll never walk around inside our ships, because one does not arbitrarily add an insane amount of volume to the inside of a ship without changing the outside unless, A) It's the TARDIS, or B) ship stats are exactly that, just stats on a spreadsheet. That's fine, at least I know not to hold my breath for those coveted "space legs".
 

mbar

mbar
Lecitron said:
It born nerfed, it was insane that t9 carried less tons that combat ships
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^this.

The T-9 has been gimped from the beginning. MLF made no sense. Max cargo even less so. I'm glad the T-9 being reworked to fit into the game universe more sensibly.
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
Vurosia said:
So I heard the big ole boat T-9 got a fairly significant buff, and I mean like, insane game altering buff.

It can now haul up to 756 Tons with a shield. And I was able to get the max laden jump range to 20 LYS, 31 unladen.

How many people are going to even invest the time to get a Cutter now? Really the only appeal was the immense cargo space, which is now obtainable for a fraction of the price and MOST IMPORTANTLY NO RANK LOCK.

How many of y’all are switching back to the old faithful?
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How many people are going to even invest the time to get a Cutter now? Really the only appeal was the immense cargo space, which is now obtainable for a fraction of the price and MOST IMPORTANTLY NO RANK LOCK.
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I think you are misunderstanding the Cutter and its fans.
For starters... it is a beautiful ship.
It is very fast and can jump quite well.
It is excellent for bulk hauling.
It is good at exploration.
It can be turned into a very powerful warship.

So... the Cutter will still be a favourite of many cmdrs.

Having said that... I will now definitely re-acquire the T9 for large volume trading and hauling .
The T9 has become very interesting again.
 
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Iskariot

Iskariot
Old Duck said:
Proof that we'll never walk around inside our ships, because one does not arbitrarily add an insane amount of volume to the inside of a ship without changing the outside unless, A) It's the TARDIS, or B) ship stats are exactly that, just stats on a spreadsheet. That's fine, at least I know not to hold my breath for those coveted "space legs".
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That is a very odd conclusion and based on... nothing at all.

It has been said many times that the T9 always had room to spare to begin with.
Some people even created graphics to demonstrate this very convincingly.
A lot is possible when designing the interiors of the ships. Creativity plays a huge part in this.
All kinds of technical interior props can easily be designed in such a way that a T9 would look filled to the brim with 500 tonnes, but you can also make it so that 800 tonnes will fit in with ease.
 

Vasious

Vasious
Old Duck said:
Proof that we'll never walk around inside our ships, because one does not arbitrarily add an insane amount of volume to the inside of a ship without changing the outside unless, A) It's the TARDIS, or B) ship stats are exactly that, just stats on a spreadsheet. That's fine, at least I know not to hold my breath for those coveted "space legs".
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It isn't a Type 9 internal volume discussion without this

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Bdragon4

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The Cutter fits between the Anaconda, Corvette and T9. It's got lots of cargo space, solid defenses, decent jump range, and is the fastest large ship in the game. The Anaconda is usually considered the best multipurpose ship, but you can really only gear to do extremely well in one activity at a time. The Cutter can do everything well all at once. It was never supposed to be just a trading ship. The T9 should've been the king of traders. That's the only thing it's ever been good for.
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
It's true. They removed the crew lounge, swimming pool (how does that even work in 0-g?), and zero-g basketball courts to make room for a second class-8 slot.

This crowns the Type-9 as the King of Mining Ships. Suck on that, Imperial Cutter ;-)
 

Iskariot

Iskariot
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Iskariot

Iskariot
Old Duck said:
Why build a huge ship that's mostly empty?
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In real life that would indeed be a very impractical approach.
In this game it is all about balance.
I think FDev just was very careful with the stats of the T9.
My guess is they themselves still have to find out what will be the definitive stats of many of the ships.
The game has changed considerably over time. Many ship stats have changed.
It is a dynamic design process and FDev listens to our input.
 

Starbreaker

Starbreaker
Iskariot said:
I think you are misunderstanding the Cutter and its fans.
For starters... it is a beautiful ship.
It is very fast and can jump quite well.
It is excellent for bulk hauling.
It is good at exploration.
It can be turned into a very powerful warship.

So... the Cutter will still be a favourite of many cmdrs.
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This.

Cutter is the ship I use the most, heavy multipurpose. The T-9 buff saves me the trouble of swapping internals and frees up some much needed module storage since I've used 2-3 different loadouts for the Cutter while the T-9 was fixed in the mining role, soon to be replaced by the T-10 for that purpose.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
I love the cargo enhancement on the Type-9. Now it really feels right per the size of the ship. Hopefully the Type-10 gets the same improvements. Staying away from populated areas, going with Solo and knowing how to avoid NPC interdictions it is now a serious trader with a lot lower risk and cost. Some may now decide never to go for the Cutter but consider it's abilities.

The Cutter has a little more cargo, excellent jump range, serious weapons, great maneuverability using it's drift, awesome boost and with the right pilot very few will defeat a Cutter in combat. Forget the specs on an Anaconda, Corvette and Cutter. A great pilot overrides them all. Still expert PvP combat pilots in wings will take it out as they spent time working on solutions. NPCs are not an issue. As a combat ship it will mass lock every other ship in the game preventing them from jumping out. PvPers love this ability using the Cutter and Clippers in a wing to take out PvP ships. NPCs are just annoying not even putting a serious dent in even lower class 6A shields as the Cutter delivers the cargo to the next destination. Yawn...

These are qualities a Type-9 cannot compete with. The Type-10 with probably the most hardened hull in the game so far will compete a lot better but perhaps nowhere close to engaging the enemy with the maneuverability and firepower of a Cutter with a pilot who knows what they are doing. It will cost 700 mil to outfit the Type-10 which is much better invested in a Cutter. I would never take a Type-10 into PvP for now without a lot more testing. Not so much a big deal with an armored shielded Cutter at the same cost and my skills with a lot of experience knowing what it can do.

What I miss with the Type-9 was it's much lower cargo capacity when I was going up through the ranks trying to get to a Cutter. It is a lot easier now in the game that other players will not have to deal with. I have no regrets and wish the best for new pilots.

Still if a player quickly went to a Cutter without the combat skills to use it then they are target practice for even noobs who they will never lock their weapons on. It is not about what we fly but how well we fly it.

Regards

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Jukelo

Jukelo
mbar said:
^this.

The T-9 has been gimped from the beginning. MLF made no sense. Max cargo even less so. I'm glad the T-9 being reworked to fit into the game universe more sensibly.
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Back in the days, the Type 9 made perfect sense since credits were hard to come by. The Type 9 was a stepping stone on the way to the Conda. Of course since then people have whined and whined to the point Frontier started showering us with credits so the Type 9 has been sitting in the weird spot where anyone with the money to buy a Type 9 can just as well spend a couple extra hours farming the latest exploit and buy a Conda instead.
 
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