I would love a NPC Helmsman

[Jex =TE=]

So.... Why exactly do you want to go way out past the bubble?

That's up to each individual and not anyone's concern. So they should stop telling people how they should play the game and what the "point" of the game is because they're wrong. Being "exclusively" in another part of the galaxy isn't a thing except for them.

 

[Jex =TE=]

I'd suggest making a nice drink and watching this..



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz3nhCykZNw

Pity isn't not really working that well then!

 

[777Driver]

Pity isn't not really working that well then!

You have to be more specific, what exactly is not working? Have you actually watched the video?

 

[Jex =TE=]

It is pretty simple, auto pilot would not scan or scoop for you. And it would only be able to travel as far as your fuel limit. So I dont know why people keep saying going to Sag A or Colonia would be easy and it would ruin exploration. You plot the maximum amount of jumps from your fuel then hit autojump, if you want to scan or scoop, you will have to engage manually. Rinse and repeat.

Someone's already made an AP that can scan and scoop for you. People are already using it and look how it hasn't affected your game in the slightest.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Someone's already made an AP that can scan and scoop for you.

I was under the impression that that sort of thing was against the terms of service.

 

[Vasea Azure]

I would totally accept optional hyper jump autopilot, I dont get any sense of achievement or scale by pressing J like a monkey over and over. To be honest its my least favorite part of the game at this point.

I was under the impression that that sort of thing was against the terms of service.

Sadly its true and I dont think you can download it anymore.

 

[Jex =TE=]

You have to be more specific, what exactly is not working? Have you actually watched the video?

No, I don't have time but I'm going to guess in their PG algorithms they've added in things like nebulae and other things. It's not working because it's a feature nobody cares for. The game gives you zero reasons for making huge journeys because there's nothing to do in the game.

Give players a reason to go out there.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

I would totally accept optional hyper jump autopilot, I dont get any sense of achievement or scale by pressing J like a monkey over and over. To be honest its my least favorite part of the game at this point.

I like the idea of 'auto jump on alignment'. Solves the 'having to hit the button each time' aspect while keeping the 'hands on the controls' aspect.

 

[Vasea Azure]

I like the idea of 'auto jump on alignment'. Solves the 'having to hit the button each time' aspect while keeping the 'hands on the controls' aspect.

Yeah I think it would make both sides of the argument somewhat happy.

 

[Riverside]

No, I don't have time but I'm going to guess in their PG algorithms they've added in things like nebulae and other things. It's not working because it's a feature nobody cares for. The game gives you zero reasons for making huge journeys because there's nothing to do in the game.

Give players a reason to go out there.

There are probably more explorers than any other demographic in the playerbase. Are you sure it isn't just something you aren't interested in?

 

[Jex =TE=]

If you're on autopilot jump, what are you going to do in the meantime?
If you're doing something else in the game then I can see a point, so if walking about comes to light then you fix systems etc.

If its watch netflix then you're not really playing the game, so might as well not bother.

But pressing J you're not really playing the game either. What is the gameplay? Where is the gameplay? What are you getting out of it?

 

[Valorin]

I also really love the scale and travelling time in Elite, so making jumps farther and SC times shorter would be a bad thing in my opinion, but jumping by autopilot... I'd take that.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

Yeah I think it would make both sides of the argument somewhat happy.

The more I think about it the more I like it. When you're making 400 jumps (as I am on the PS4 currently) it's not the 'hitting the hyperspace button' that's the challenging bit, it's the 'doggedly staying at the controls and piloting your ship' bit.

 

[V'larr]

I somewhat-humbly submit the proposition that it's not an auto-jump-navigation system we need, we simply need to reduce the amount of time spent with every jump watching timers. (Link to my thread on the topic is in my signature.)

edit: I'll admit though that second thoughts are showing up in my head, about whether it would be so bad to have auto-navigation tools ingame....

 

[Jex =TE=]

*shrug* Like I say, I have no objection to a pretty much full autopilot within the bubble. But if you want to remove one of the few aspects of exploration that you have to do yourself then I'm going to disagree.

So don't use it then. Also, it's not up to you to tell the rest of us how to play the game. We don't care if you disagree and think we have to slog it somewhere because you think we should do it. If one of the few "aspects" of exploration is doing the simplest most minimalistic actions you could ever do then keep it yourself. You don't have to use it if you don't like it.

Every argument thus far against the AP has been users here arguing how it would ruin their game and give no argument other than how they don't like it. Nobody has actually provided any kind of robust argument against an AP.

Presumably all those against the AP are also vehemently against the Docking Computer as well, right?

 

[Riverside]

edit: I'll admit though that second thoughts are showing up in my head, about whether it would be so bad to have auto-navigation tools ingame....

I'm the same. I still wouldn't support an autopilot for supercruise but the game has evolved, and travelling (rather than actually exploring) is now more of a thing.

 

[GreyAreaUK]

So don't use it then. Also, it's not up to you to tell the rest of us how to play the game.

Why not? You are.

We don't care if you disagree and think we have to slog it somewhere because you think we should do it. If one of the few "aspects" of exploration is doing the simplest most minimalistic actions you could ever do then keep it yourself. You don't have to use it if you don't like it.

Oh, come off it. This is equal parts entitlement and self-victimisation.

Stop trying to make the game pointlessly easier. If you want to go to Beagle Point then damn well fly there yourself. Everyone else has.

Edit: oh, and to expand on the "you don't have to use it" bobbins - if there was a 'give me a billion credits' button then you wouldn't have to use that either, but that doesn't mean it would be good for the game.

 

[Jex =TE=]

I was under the impression that that sort of thing was against the terms of service.

What you do with your own PC is up to you, not some games company. altering the code of the game is against the licence but these don't alter the code.

I like the idea of 'auto jump on alignment'. Solves the 'having to hit the button each time' aspect while keeping the 'hands on the controls' aspect.

That gains nothing. Pressing J is the easiest part of the entire process. If you've done the mind numbing part already pressing J is even more trivial, isn't it?

 

[GreyAreaUK]

What you do with your own PC is up to you, not some games company. altering the code of the game is against the licence but these don't alter the code.

I'd be interested to hear FDev's view on this. To me, cheating is cheating, no matter how inventive you've been.

 

[Jex =TE=]

There are probably more explorers than any other demographic in the playerbase. Are you sure it isn't just something you aren't interested in?

Where's your data to support your claim. I don't believe you I'm afraid. I think there's more people hopping around the bubble than there are explorers. Even if your cliam is correct, that still doesn't address if they'd like an AP or not and since we've seen how easy it is, there's no reason not to have one.

I should add that if they added one right now, I wouldn't use it because there's still no gameplay. But bad arguments are bad arguments and there's no good arguement not to have an AP if people want it and there's no reason for FDev not to implement it because they've already been made and work. So easy to add and considering FDev have "more people than ever working on ED" then it's a really easy QoL thing.