You know what? I like that. Set your map filters to KGBFOAM and you should be good.
Yep. That's an AP implementation I can get behind.
I would love a NPC Helmsman
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You know what? I like that. Set your map filters to KGBFOAM and you should be good.
Yep. That's an AP implementation I can get behind.
How did you confuse my examples of flying with wanting exploration to be combat related - no, I want exploration to be like Star Trek TNG thanks with a little Serenity thrown in and occasionally some Apollo 13 along side some Mission to Mars
What would happen if the FR's didn't exists? I'm assuming you're stuck? Is there a self destruct for that event?
Hey, I've got news for you:
We were discussing features in the original 1984 game.
Right hand panel somewhere, I think?
Yes... Self destruct is under the Functions panel, Right hand side, in-cockpit menu.
At first I'm not for auto-pilots, though I understand Lysander lysan's concern. And I must say I'm totally for a hyperjump AP like the one you describe.
There isn’t any depth to how I play the game? I would absolutely love to argue that point against you. Unfortunately I can’t really come up with a compelling counterargument due to how anemic exploration mechanics truly are, lol.
Ah frack it, give me an autopilot too. Then at least I can pay more attention to the Netflix shows I watch while I explore!!!
When FDev implements new Exploration features in Q4 then there will be a downside to using auto-jump I bet. Sure while you are auto jumping through systems and the like you might miss some big things. Hell you could jump through a system that has an entire new alien mystery but you wont know that because Auto-Jump.
Exactly, ED doesn't have those Apollo 13 scenarios, that's the issue. Now, ask yourself, will AP solve that?
Could miss it at the moment though, couldn't you? I mean the game doesn't tell you things like "ALIEN SIGNAL DETECTED" on a honk (or does it?). So you'd jump in, honk - 34 NEW PLANETS DISCOVERED - align, and jump out; none the wiser to what hides on a little moon 350,000ls away.. resting in the shadow of it's parent Gas Giant.
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I like this. Call it a Standard Nav Computer and have it take up a size 1 slot.
"Allows automated frameshift jumps along a plotted course in all systems with a nav beacon. Diverts a large percentage of compute resources, rendering all discovery scanners unusable while active."
There's your downside - honking every 40 seconds can generate some credits on the side. You use this thing and you don't have the ability to do that anymore. Another idea - remove the nav beacon restriction, but greatly increase the time between jumps or the fuel requirement.
"Allows automated frameshift jumps along a plotted course with a 50% penalty to fuel usage and/or jump time"
It always kinda bugged me that in the future of Elite, humanity forgot about course-hold autopilot, the kind of which every plane in the 20th century has.
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Lets just say this: FD probably wanted to make a big galaxy and the only way to do that is to design game mechanics which force you to take time. By taking time I mean actually engaging with the game while travelling, which is exactly what AP eliminates, thus, the galaxy is now fairly small which defeats the purpose of my first point.
And for the nth time, exploration needs to change, even explorers get burned after a while but AP isn't a solution. Maybe beyond will bring proper gameplay to exploration.
After a system scan you get to see the celestial objects in the system map which might be of your interest. Since "interesting" is subjective, I wouldn't expect the computer to tell you that.
In a manner that is sheer, unadulterated drudgery for zero benefit to the player?
Friend, that isn't gameplay. That's a job. I know of assembly line jobs you can get paid for that are more stimulating.
You don't only click "j" when exploring or travelling, nontheless, it is the demand in time that matters. AP does in fact eliminate this as now I can just leave the computer playing itself while going to school. Essentially, your idea transforms travelling to waiting.
The only way to conceptualize size is by the time it takes you to get somewhere. Obviously ED doesn't inform you how many trillions of Kms you are away from something but it conpensates via the time it takes to travel through it.
Factually wrong, there are in fact places where certain stars are more common.
Its time, not the J key that matters.
Now, if you think there's nothing special beyond the bubble then why would you even want to exit it?
Not at all, you know why? Because it doesn't take time.
So, then there's no point to continue.
Is AP gameplay? Is allowing a player to progress by just sitting down and reading a book gameplay?
Boredom > Not boredom. If there's all to do when on a long distance haul, let's remove the pretense and stop pretending that humanity forgot about 20th century autopilot.
Besides - if you need that constant thwacking of the J key for immersion purposes, turn the autopilot off, plot your path by "economical" and go nuts. You do you.
You do realize that it's already literally 90% waiting, yes? Even with fuel scooping and white dwarves, it takes about 40 seconds per jump where your hands are off the controls and you're twiddling your thumbs while the computer does its thing.
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Lets just say it is bad gameplay but AP is no gameplay, besides, don't do it if you don't like it, easy.
Oh, and that's not all there is to do, especially if you use neutron stars.
ED is not build on the original one, but from a sum of all of them plus more of its own.
So are you ok with the 'one fuel tank range, no auto-scooping' proposal?
Well not asking for this buuuut.....
[video=youtube;iH6R7QE9_tg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH6R7QE9_tg[/video]
I'm fine with;
No auto refueling
No auto exploring
No auto combat
No auto rest stop
No auto are we there yet
No auto [insert something]
As longs as it's auto star jump and line up!
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