Do frontier still play their game?

Oaktree

Oaktree
Do you guys expect that Devs when they go home, they go play Elite Dangerous? I wouldnt if i were them!

Im an IT Technician. I fix computers, maintain servers, networks, etc... When i'm in my free time i hate it when someone asks me to fix their laptops or whatever. I'm lazy even to fix my own PC where i play Elite to relax.
 
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Riverside

Riverside
Oaktree said:
Do you guys expect that Devs when they go home, they go play Elite Dangerous? I wouldnt if i were them!

Im an IT Technician. I fix computers, maintain servers, networks, etc... When i'm in my free time i hate it when someone asks me to fix their laptops or whatever. I'm lazy even to fix my own PC where i play Elite to relax.
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'Mechanics Car' syndrome ;)
 

Hanerib

Hanerib
Of course they do... Yet I'm not quite satisfied on the matter until I see Edward doing some conflict zone with fixed weapons on board.
 

Baton

Baton
Hanerib said:
Of course they do... Yet I'm not quite satisfied on the matter until I see Edward doing some conflict zone with fixed weapons on board.
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With x-box controller and reading what is on a chat on his laptop? I don't think so :)
 
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Dbrn47

Dbrn47
I know the Community Team definitely plays. Not sure if the Dev Team does. Seems hard to tell sometimes.

kofeyh said:
Random internet person, what are you even on about. Like, at all. This is a discussion forum. People will discuss. Not all of it will be agreeable discussion. In other news, water is defined as being wet.
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[video=youtube;ugyqOSUlR2A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugyqOSUlR2A[/video]
 

Delilah

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CMDR Karrde Sun said:
I'm more curious about the mounting evidence, not any conclusions or judgements:

David Braben has given up, evidence:
- He certainly hasn't flown a type 10. Any sane boss with 1/2 a care to anything ranging from public image of quality and ownership of their baby would have sent that back and said not good enough (to the external model).
- Related, he hasn't bought and equipped a cosmetic store ship kit either. These are pretty janky at best, and yet are proposing to earn the premium microtransaction revenue. If my business was selling something, id be more interested in making sure the good/premium/expensive offering had a bit more care.
- Both those points are guess are examples of recent new output at a lower quality than usual.
- The beige balls from the last patch probably imply he hasn't played in even longer (or decided himself to wait for the fix before starting again).

Sandro Sammarco doesnt, evidence:
- He's already started a few times the design is done to (requirements document) bullet points.
- All the issues that have come up with anything in the beta are to do with lack of consideration of GAMEPLAY (past and future). Makes so much sense.

Edward Lewis doesnt, but thats forgiven by standard industry practice, i can't think of any company online stream rep that claims to be a player of the game they're mc'ing.

I haven't seen enough of them, but Dav Stott and Steve Kirby have spoken like they do play the game. Much respect.

Ending: overall i don't have any issues with frontier overall, once overthinking stops they are the best developer in the industry in this temporal moment. But it makes you wonder sometimes.
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Your points are well taken and the evidence in Elite's design and implementation is quite clear.

Even if Frontier employees do play at times, there is something larger at work. That is a culture of mediocrity where good enough and a minimally viable product is delivered.

Clearly the devs are talented, and Frontier has done some things very well -- the physical simulation, visual and auditory effects, flight and combat. Support is amazing. And as has been shown with Dove Enigma, a praiseworthy heart.

But something is deeply wrong in the corporate culture when powerplay, engineers, multicrew, missions, mining, exploration, the economy, storage, etc. is so deeply flawed as a matter of choice.

Saddens me.
 

AsukaZ

AsukaZ
Sorry this is off-topic but I did want to respond to this -

MarkAusten said:
Like many things you do not have the be an accredited "expert" to know something. I do not need to have a Doctorate in physics to know how gravity works and to use it, nor do I have to be a doctor of medicine to know when someone is drunk or has a cold, I do not need to be a time-traveller in order to be a historian, and so on.
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I'm not sure why you quoted the word "Expert", sounds to me like you have little regard for them.
Yes you do need to be an expert to know these things to any degree of certainty.

Conditions that mimic drunkenness include -
- Diabetes
- Epilepsy
- Traumatic brain injury
- Alzheimers
(source)

Conditions that mimic a cold -
- A great many !
(source)

Same goes for armchair diagnosis of psychiatric disorders. As I understand it it takes many sessions with a patient and getting to know them intimately before any diagnosis can made with any degree of certainty, not just a few posts on a forum likely overshadowed by personal opinions.
 
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