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Lol, the game is going to fail because you only got 4000 hours out of it. Wow OP, you have some extreme expectations. There can't be too many games on the market that can provide that many hours of entertainment before becoming stale.
 
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4000 hours? 11 billion assets? And I'm supposed to just believe that? Sounds more like posing to give that whine more credentials.

ding ding ding, we have a winner. Nobody here really believes he played the game for 4000 hours and just then thought, "Wait a second! There's no story!" Come on man.
 
#1: You are satisfied with your transaction between you and FD.
#2: You are frustrated, but it's no big deal.
#3: There are levels in ED? Do you mean like Trade/Combat/Exploration ranks? Or something different? I have not once gotten a "level up" in Elite. I knew I was missing something...
#4: You want imagination, but then complain there is no story? When I want my kids to use their imagination, I don't spoon feed them a story... this seems like an oxymoron...
#5: You are sold this is a simulation, but then want it to be a game? Is it a sim or a game to you? You called it a great sim, said sims don't need story, but previously complained it needed a story... I'm probably as confused as you are...
#6: Grind is what you make of it. This is a completely subjective area of conversation.
#7: What has FD lied about? They hardly even say anything before it is happening, and I assume they do this so that they are not accused of lying when things don't work out their way.

In conclusion, you have spent an equivalent amount of time as somebody who works a full time job for 2 years (40 hours a week), playing a "sim" that you enjoyed. You are bored with it now, and are moving on. Cool. Enjoy the next game that brings you 4000 hours of joy.

Well said. +1 rep
 
Out of curiosity, what's the accepted window in which you're allowed to criticize the game without being shouted down? I've seen both

Some fanboy said:
You spent xxx hours in game? Well obviously you got your money worth!

Some other fanboy said:
You spent xxx hours in game? You haven't spent enough time to have an opinion!

It really makes it seem like y'all are really adverse to any kind of criticism.

#7: What has FD lied about?

Offline play during the kickstarter, dealing with combat loggers (in reality: tickets are closed without evidence being viewed)

Also, I'm going to guess that the OP hasn't actually spent 4K hours ingame. I bet they're looking at the time the launcher was open, which certain platform (*coughsteamcough*) treat as ingame time. Launcher doesn't close when the game does, so unless you willfully close the launcher, you'll rack up a ton of time.

And I would guess wrong in that instance!
 
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Cash $4,349,134,925
Ships $7,598,246,453

Time Played 19W 1D 12H 53M

I'll post the screen shot when I get home.

Poon
 
Out of curiosity, what's the accepted window in which you're allowed to criticize the game without being shouted down?

Everyone is free to criticise as much as he wants in every situation. But you should expect that your criticism gets criticised, since everyone is free to criticise.
 
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I used to play WoW, after maxing my characters grinding for raid gear got really boring for me.
I quit due to the boredom and haven't played in years, the end game is so boring in WoW the game must have folded by now because everyone else will have worked it out too.

True story by the way.
 
Everyone is free to criticise as much as he wants in every situation. But you should expect that your criticism gets criticised, since everyone is free to criticise.

I don't believe everyone should be free to criticize, though. Hell, I don't even believe everyone should be allowed to use the internet. :D
 
Reading this thread tells me the opinion seems to be:

* Playing for a long period of time means you can no longer complain about anything relating to content.
* Playing for a short time means you can't complain about anything.

Surely, after many hundreds of hours of playing, being told time and time again that 'things are coming' - only to find they don't - and then it's said again - and doesn't come... That justifies a reason to keep on playing. The Thargoid thing has been going since the game was officially launched, and even now, it's only just really starting - and that's taking a very, very long time.
 
Reading this thread tells me the opinion seems to be:

* Playing for a long period of time means you can no longer complain about anything relating to content.
* Playing for a short time means you can't complain about anything.

Surely, after many hundreds of hours of playing, being told time and time again that 'things are coming' - only to find they don't - and then it's said again - and doesn't come... That justifies a reason to keep on playing. The Thargoid thing has been going since the game was officially launched, and even now, it's only just really starting - and that's taking a very, very long time.

Indeed.

One thing that I have noticed of late, a pattern emerging if you will, is that the number of players that have thousands of hours in the cockpit, have got to the point where they find it hard to envisage going any further due to the grind, and have nothing but positive things to say in summary of the game play...

...are few and far between.

The positive reviews seem to come from those that enjoy the grind. Or indeed, enjoy the game without having gone through the mill and like pootling about in small ships.

All of those playing methods are equally as valid. I just find it interesting that the overwhelming pattern of those who play like the OP, is one of "was it worth it...probably not". Shows how much buy in the Elite brand presents in terms of the "Institution", and how much value this version seems to offer...

....thus far.
 
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I can't help but chuckle when people with hundreds and even thousands of hours complain about like of content or boredom or "teh grund".

I've been playing this game since 2015 and I love it.
 
Indeed.

One thing that I have noticed of late, a pattern emerging if you will, is that the number of players that have thousands of hours in the cockpit, have got to the point where they find it hard to envisage going any further due to the grind, and have nothing but positive things to say in summary of the game play...

...are few and far between.

The positive reviews seem to come from those that enjoy the grind. Or indeed, enjoy the game without having gone through the mill and like pootling about in small ships.

All of those playing methods are equally as valid. I just find it interesting that the overwhelming pattern of those who play like the OP, is one of "was it worth it...probably not". Shows how much buy in the Elite brand presents in terms of the "Institution", and how much value this version seems to offer...

....thus far.
The fact that people play for thousands of hours and create "game is bad" threads makes no sense to me. You'd think that if the game was as bad as they claim, they wouldn't have sank thousands of hours into it. To me, it just devalues the point they are trying to make with their threads (not that such threads have much merit to begin with). Or perhaps there is an epidemic of people being forced to play Elite against their will for years. [where is it]
 
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Indeed.

One thing that I have noticed of late, a pattern emerging if you will, is that the number of players that have thousands of hours in the cockpit, have got to the point where they find it hard to envisage going any further due to the grind, and have nothing but positive things to say in summary of the game play...

...are few and far between.

The positive reviews seem to come from those that enjoy the grind. Or indeed, enjoy the game without having gone through the mill and like pootling about in small ships.

All of those playing methods are equally as valid. I just find it interesting that the overwhelming pattern of those who play like the OP, is one of "was it worth it...probably not". Shows how much buy in the Elite brand presents in terms of the "Institution", and how much value this version seems to offer...

....thus far.

One of the things Sandro said in today's live stream was that things should require "effort".

When I ran that through the translator, the decrypt was something that I cannot post on this forum :(
 
One of the things Sandro said in today's live stream was that things should require "effort".

When I ran that through the translator, the decrypt was something that I cannot post on this forum :(

I've stopped watching those Live Streams for the same reasons I've stopped watching Question Time (UK Politics Panel Show), and stopped listening to Lave Radio on a regular basis.

Mutual backslapping gets nothing done.
 
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The fact that people play for thousands of hours and create "game is bad" threads makes no sense to me. You'd think that if the game was as bad as they claim, they wouldn't have sank thousands of hours into it. To me, it just devalues the point they are trying to make with their threads (not that such threads have much merit to begin with). Or perhaps there is an epidemic of people being forced to play Elite against their will for years. [where is it]

No disrespect, but I think maybe your laughter does a great dis-service to those that have stuck with it, hoping that a game play event on the horizon changes the enforced pace, or in that the targets a player needs to achieve in terms of credits to offset the grind, takes so long.

Moreover, once there, only to discover there's not much gained in terms of fun anyway. Even if you are able to fill your hanger with all the ships. It's evidently a disappointment to a meaningful number of Commanders.

Not so to others, who are happy not-being-bothered to grind for the big three, or have all the ships and end up fighting in Rez's in Belugas just for the craic.

Not sure it's worth laughing at. They should be applauded for sticking it out so long, for whatever their own reasons for doing so actually are. Although, there is the ability to just leave it for 12 months and see if anything has improved any.

I think the one huge point to make in all this, is that for the last 3 years, the answer to that might well be "not much at all". Many seem to be crossing their fingers that Beyond and 2018 will buck that trend. Others seem to be happy with having little or no expectations as it does not impact their playing styles.

Expectations, low or high, seem to be the guidance Commanders take when forming opinion over the game content or its current pace, or even its pace of progress.

While expectations that are too high, or bordering on apathetic are equally as negative, all wishes seem to be lumped into the two extreme categories as that's all we can do in the absence of having as much of a clue as to where it's all going.

And we all know that a binary culture is never constructive.

So don't laugh. Try understanding.
 
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