Stuff made hard that *should* be easy...

[Zeeman]

Bit of a rant, just because, well, I do sometimes wonder at some decisions.

Skins - why can’t I get a skin change at *any* station? Regardless of whether it offers outfitting or not? There is no in game benefit apart from changing the colour of the ship. I’ve, more than once, I had to fly hundreds of light years simply to change a skin, becaause someone UA bombed a sation, or the station has no outfitting.

Really, if I can dock, I should be able to change my skin. I paid extra for the skins, let me use them easily, please.

SLF skins - if I can print a new SLF, surely, I can print it with a new (again, paid for) skin? Just sayin’.

Bobble heads - do I *really* need a mechanic that fits FSD’s and thrusters to attach a bobble head to my dash? If I’ve bought it, let me attach it any time, anywhere.

I’m not asking for this stuff to be top priority or anything, but just something to consider fixing over time, because, well, I suspect people would be more inclined to buy stuff they can actually more easily use.

Z...

 

[Darty]

I believe that you can enter livery directly from the station menu. It should be above the repair/restock options. I don't think you need to be at a station with outfitting to use this option.

 

[Zeeman]

I believe that you can enter livery directly from the station menu. It should be above the repair/restock options. I don't think you need to be at a station with outfitting to use this option.

Is this true? I’ve never seen this option (apart from via outfitting).


Will be super happy if this is so. Bobble head and SLF poit still stands, though.

Z...

 

[Riverside]

Can I add naming a ship to the list?
And painting SRVs too.

I can see an argument against changing paints while in flight but I agree, pretty well all cosmetic changes should be available at any dock (just go into the hanger just as with outfitting), many should be available in flight too.

 

[Zeeman]

Can I add naming a ship to the list?
And painting SRVs too.

I can see an argument against changing paints while in flight but I agree, pretty well all cosmetic changes should be available at any dock (just go into the hanger just as with outfitting), many should be available in flight too.

Totally with you on that one. On a side note, seeing as we can print SLF’s, I’d like to see SRV printing introduced, even if it is at the cost of a heavier module, or some form of time penalty (or combination of).

Z...

 

[Darty]

Is this true? I’ve never seen this option (apart from via outfitting).


Will be super happy if this is so. Bobble head and SLF poit still stands, though.

Z...

I don't know if it allows you to access livery if outfitting is not available, but I don't see why it shouldn't.

 

[CMDR Valleys]

I agree100% more useful for explores and could be a decision that looses FD money from that crowd. As you say it’s only cosmetic so why not.

Dont think it was a decision to make things hard, more as something believable.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Same with SLF pilots as well. Station in lockdown? Well, your copilot who magically transferred stations with you is now not available.... i dunno, they somehow got to a part of the station that isn't accessible to your ships... but if you then move to another station, they are magically there again!

Really is bizarre!

As for livery - I don't think it was a conscious decision by FD. Just they didn't consider it. Initially it was only available under outfitting. When they pulled the menu option up to the top level, they didn't change the ability to access it.

Still doesn't explain the crew lounge though.... grrrr....

 

[Sooden]

Bit of a rant, just because, well, I do sometimes wonder at some decisions.

Skins - why can’t I get a skin change at *any* station? Regardless of whether it offers outfitting or not? There is no in game benefit apart from changing the colour of the ship. I’ve, more than once, I had to fly hundreds of light years simply to change a skin, becaause someone UA bombed a sation, or the station has no outfitting.

Really, if I can dock, I should be able to change my skin. I paid extra for the skins, let me use them easily, please.

SLF skins - if I can print a new SLF, surely, I can print it with a new (again, paid for) skin? Just sayin’.

Bobble heads - do I *really* need a mechanic that fits FSD’s and thrusters to attach a bobble head to my dash? If I’ve bought it, let me attach it any time, anywhere.

I’m not asking for this stuff to be top priority or anything, but just something to consider fixing over time, because, well, I suspect people would be more inclined to buy stuff they can actually more easily use.

Z...

Was looking for something to be angry about today. ty
Sadly, some days, Fdev seem to be doing a good job and i find it hard to complain about stuff

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Still doesn't explain the crew lounge though.... grrrr....

well, if the Coffey machine's is offline, no ones going to work.

 

[Straker]

Same with SLF pilots as well. Station in lockdown? Well, your copilot who magically transferred stations with you is now not available.... i dunno, they somehow got to a part of the station that isn't accessible to your ships... but if you then move to another station, they are magically there again!

Really is bizarre!

As for livery - I don't think it was a conscious decision by FD. Just they didn't consider it. Initially it was only available under outfitting. When they pulled the menu option up to the top level, they didn't change the ability to access it.

Still doesn't explain the crew lounge though.... grrrr....

I find this absolutely maddening! It's sending me crazy.

My solution would be to use a special HUD displayed only when docked that shows on-HUD that you don't have an active co-pilot, and for other such things as limpets etc. There needs to be some way to remind us when switching between ships that we don't have an active co-pilot - yet nothing like a message box as that too would also be annoying for some situations.

 

[Jack Schitt]

I'd have to check the game to be certain but I'm reasonably sure that the direct Livery option is greyed out if the Outfitting is unavailable.

I agree about skins and names/nameplates though. I understand FD's desire to keep many game elements believable (even if other parts of the game are living in la-la land) but when you're dealing with things that cost real-world money I don't think there should be any limits on where you can apply them.

Aside from anything else, isn't this policy hurting FD's coffers? Long-range explorers who are thousands of ly into the deep and who know about the Outfitting limitation aren't going to buy any skins, kits or nameplates. And those who don't know about the limitation are only going to do it once before tearing their hair out in realisation. Maybe FD have looked at the metrics and there really aren't that many full-time explorers out there, but even if the numbers are small they're still potentially turning down a free source of revenue. I just don't understand it.

 

[Valorin]

I like that ship paintjobs are tied to outfitting, since also for painting a ship properly you need a workshop. I wouldn't bother changing bobbleheads, SRV and SFL paintjobs in midflight though.

I think what makes many things not really coherent is the fact that Frontier compromised immersion and logic in favor of convenient gameplay.
Like crew pilots being available at any station, like multicrew using telepresence, like 3D printing Fighters in your ship's bay. All these things make the lore center in my brain cringe and scream actually, though I understand why these choices were made.

I would be happy if we could only multicrew if we are docked at the same station. I would love crew staying at the station we dropped them off. I would be completely fine with shiplaunched fighters not being reproducable. Because: MA IMMERJUN!
I know that many other players think differently and that they deserve some convenience since this is, after all, a game. That's fine, but don't base other conclusions on these unimmersive decisions. Like, if my crew magically teleports to any port I dock, why can't [enter demand based on this logic]. Because the magical teleportation is already a gameplay choice that compromised the sim aspect of the game. No need to compromise that any more in my opinion.

 

[Mike Reacher]

Was looking for something to be angry about today. ty
Sadly, some days, Fdev seem to be doing a good job and i find it hard to complain about stuff



well, if the Coffey machine's is offline, no ones going to work.

Well, somebody has their priorities right. More than you can say about a lot of others!

 

[Achilles7]

well, if the Coffey machine's is offline, no ones going to work.

Yes Sir Boss...like the drink, only not spelled exactly the same [blah]

 

[Watcher]

I've been wondering about this recently as well.
I think it would make a lot of sense if you could at least make any interior mods you want when you want.
I think skins can be easily justified too, we say that the hull is covered with some sort of low-res adaptive film or something. It might still show wear and tear (which you would have to repair at a station, probably) but you can get it to change on request..

For me this became a frustration over Christmas, out exploring I couldn't put up the decorative lights over the holidays, I should be able to do that!

 

[Lily from anim.o.v.e]

Spray limpet module,

target ship gets paint pattern of choice at 100% ship paint.

I feel pity for all those explorers ships looking like having been away for centuries.

 

[zombieapocalypse]

Bobble heads - do I *really* need a mechanic that fits FSD’s and thrusters to attach a bobble head to my dash? If I’ve bought it, let me attach it any time, anywhere.

A lot of sophisticated tech goes into those bobble heads and, as such, should only be fitted and adjusted by an approved qualified professional.

I agree though, does seems a bit silly that livery isn't always available at stations (eg during lockdown) and that we can't just change our bobble heads at any time.

 

[Stealthie]

Seems like it should be possible to mess with the cosmetics of your ship from aboard your ship in the same way you can access holo-me.
It's a bit sad that you can, say, have bought (with real money) a heap of christmas-themed cosmetics but then can't use them if you happen to be off exploring at the time.

I'm not sure it could/should be possible to change a ship's name or ident unless you're at a station though.
Probably doesn't have any current significance in-game but that seems like the kind of thing which might require your ship to be "re-registered" officially.
With new update, the game can identify you by your ship's name or ident and it might confuse the game if you could change it on the fly.

 

[Ian Skippy]

Is this true? I’ve never seen this option (apart from via outfitting).


Will be super happy if this is so. Bobble head and SLF poit still stands, though.

Z...

The button is greyed out when no outfitting is present.

 

[Oss133]

I agree that paid-for cosmetics should be available at any time, if this is not already the case.

Can't test this right now as I am in a village tea shop having tea and a scone.

Sometimes, my Englishness surprises even me.