What valid in-game activity can possibly prevent a charity from recieving donations outside of the game?
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Privateer’s Alliance Charity Event Targeted for Griefing
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What valid in-game activity can possibly prevent a charity from recieving donations outside of the game?
UA bombing has had balancing passes already it is no longer a safe space.Thanks to you who have offered to help the Privateers Alliance if they are UA bombed. That is both kind and good of you.
Still, let me make clear that I in no way represent the Privateers. I’m not a member and I haven’t had discussions with them. Rather my comments are focused on the malicious actions of a few griefers who use UA bombing and what might be done about it.
Those of you who point out that UA bombing is an intended mechanic and it can be countered through deliveries are correct. Please note, however, that I’m not claiming otherwise *and* that part of this discussion is not my point.
Rather I’m highlighting how UA bombing is an unintended safe space for griefers, and the community as a whole should want to stop that for the same reasons folks have called out seal-clubbing. This is especially obvious in the case of special events, like the Enigma Expedition or a charity fund raiser.
For that to happen, creative ideas about how to defend proactively instead of simply respond reactively are needed. I’ve suggested one. Imgram suggest pre-delivery of meta-alloys which is good, but doesn't help small players. Appeals can be made, but not all are heard. So too, as BigJay indirectly suggests, we need better mechanics of interdicting stations that are less likely to be abused by griefers.
I am particularly intrigued by how we might blockade stations without keeping or creating a safe space for griefers.
Plenty of "safe spaces" for griefers inside the BGS and power play. Just because someone decides to host a charity event inside a game(terrible idea, trust me I used to work with animal rescues in the trip state area, PA, NJ, and NY) where there is player agency doesn't mean the perfectly valid mechanic should change. It means that the organizers of the charity should plan better knowing stuff like this is out there. Write up an actual CG for meta alloys or make a very public appeal for MAs before hand to prevent it. Plenty more people will come to help than the turds UA bombing.
Goose4291
Banned
I didnt realise you were a BSGO player too!
You must have both been on Tauron. I remember that atrocious attempt to.turn the north into a carebear mining project
Actually. I think I remember you both now. Werent you Cylon Cap ship.pilots?
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Ban it so people can just carry on playing the game, yes.
Believe it or not, becoming a charity platform is not why this game exists.
And most people take these charity things way too personally.
If I were in charge, (I know I'm not), I'd just ban this so people can focus on the original point of the game.
To have fun.
Charity events and gaming are only a good idea if there's no online element whatsoever. Otherwise, someone gets salty.
Personally, I'd just cut out the tumour.
Deleted member 110222
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This. Last I checked, UA bombing doesn't affect PayPal.
This.
Ironic also that the threats and abuse are for the most part coming from those purporting to be the "good guys". Why is that?
I'd rep you again but can't, virtual +1 then.
You know what, you're actually right.
I don't think this topic, and what negative emotions it brings, is worth the bad taste in mouth.
DW2 seems like a far more effort-worthy idea to spend energy on.
I can appreciate our difference of opinions and move on, it's not like this whole thread is going to achieve much anyway.
Beers for you, Sir.
I didnt realise you were a BSGO player too!
You must have both been on Tauron. I remember that atrocious attempt to.turn the north into a carebear mining project
Actually. I think I remember you both now. Werent you Cylon Cap ship.pilots?
I think Red had an account on every server going including the ultra busy Kobol server.
I was Sagittaron only and played until I was perma-banned for trolling the chat and forums.
I think you underestimate a trolls capacity to think up new and exciting ways to circumvent game rules. See the boy Potter for examples.
Anyway isnt the game matra to blaze your own trail? As far as im aware the only thing done in this particular case was a commando using game mechanics to UA bomb a station/base/whatever that has had so far zero impact on the charity event and in fact has probably brought it more attention than it might have got in the first place.
Frankly if frontier start pandering to those easily upset and ban everything that makes them pout then they may as well shut the game down and carry on making Jurassic Park Skin Pack simulator.
Well said. Prop's and +1's for you
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As the energy and ideas in this thread are winding down, I want to thank you folks for this informative debate. We have a good list of suggestions for UA bombing pro and con, and have identified several larger issues of design, mechanics, and norms that inform if and how it ought to be used.
I was also somewhat surprised by the turn to whether charity events should be held or not in the context of Elite, but that related debate has also been informative.
I’ll take some time to summarize the main points and post these in the near future. It will be some time before Frontier gives UA bombing another balance pass, but in the meantime we might be able to offer a range of options that may improve the situation.
Good speed Cmdrs.
I was also somewhat surprised by the turn to whether charity events should be held or not in the context of Elite, but that related debate has also been informative.
I’ll take some time to summarize the main points and post these in the near future. It will be some time before Frontier gives UA bombing another balance pass, but in the meantime we might be able to offer a range of options that may improve the situation.
Good speed Cmdrs.
There seems to be a huge misunderstanding of what the charity event is. Elite isn't the platform, twitch is. Streamers are promoting the event while streaming what ever game they want, many are playing other games. UA bombing will have 0 effect on the event, to the point the wing leader replied several times to say just this. If reading a thread in the forums about it is too much, then maybe just ignore the thread and go play the game. There's no in game event to go along with the charity event. If people using video games for charity bothers you that much, I suggest you also aim your anger at Extra Life and other similar charities too.
This event is simply to coincide with heart month and spread donations to heart disease charities around the world. The best news of all for those that are very critical is that if you just ignore the threads and go play the game, instead of being a forum warrior, you'll not be bothered by this. Well that is unless you just can't handle that somewhere there is a streamer who might be playing elite while promoting charities for heart health. It really is that simple to not have to worry about this at all, just ignore the forum thread.
This event is simply to coincide with heart month and spread donations to heart disease charities around the world. The best news of all for those that are very critical is that if you just ignore the threads and go play the game, instead of being a forum warrior, you'll not be bothered by this. Well that is unless you just can't handle that somewhere there is a streamer who might be playing elite while promoting charities for heart health. It really is that simple to not have to worry about this at all, just ignore the forum thread.
I didnt realise you were a BSGO player too!
You must have both been on Tauron. I remember that atrocious attempt to.turn the north into a carebear mining project
Actually. I think I remember you both now. Werent you Cylon Cap ship.pilots?
Neither of us had the same names on there mate, we were both on Sagi. (I did do a bit of pewpew with Verm on the beta server though...) We were both Cylons although we both started as Colonials; I just binned my original account off at about level 30 and started over as a red because I got sick of being on the easy side whereas Leo (the other chap) faction switched during the second big faction switch for the same reasons - all of his wing switched and I joined them when they went red. He flew escorts, strikes and a carrier depending on mood, I was pretty much exclusively a strike player and and never that awful joke of a stealth ship either, proper strikes!
Tauron is about the only server I never had an account on; I'd probably have been a blue on there because I know that for a time it was the only server that was Cylon dominated. Frankly though, I think we caused enough chaos on Sagi; it would be fair to say my wing was 'well known'.
That drone event was hilarious. I spent a lovely evening beacon dropping the Basestar onto them in a Recon Raptor with some wing buddies, as well as pumping endless area effect nukes into them
As for the mining reference, it was all the blues on Sagi ever did during the year or so when they had a ridiculous numerical advantage; log on and sit hatching their big blue eggs all night or cruise around Hatir rock mining. For some reason they seemed to think we should just leave them alone to get on with it, didn't usually work out that way...
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That drone event was hilarious. I spent a lovely evening beacon dropping the Basestar onto them in a Recon Raptor with some wing buddies, as well as pumping endless area effect nukes into them
I think our wing was more concerned with killing each other in the attempt than getting any of the other players.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Yeah and some types of trading negatively affect a groups BGS so maybe trading should only be in open.. You cant make 1 activity open only unless you do it to all that negatively affects other players