Possible to head off a pending outbreak by delivering medicines?
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Any of the movement or conflict ones will cancel an outbreak or famine if it tries to go active on the same day. (Or shorten it by overriding it if it goes active later)
Yeah I've seen lockdown do that too and clear the state if it goes active same day not sure if it overrides or bugs out as tends to not leave a cooldown. Expansion and retreat also override it.
Alright, giving my 2 credits worth of observation to the subject.
States can be divided into 3 categories: Low, Mid and High Tier ones.
Low: Boom, Bust, Civil Unrest, Famine, Lockdown, Outbreak.
Mid: Expansion, Investment, Retreat
High: Civil War, Election, War
The higher the Tier the more potent the States are. Meaning Mid Tier ones will cancel out Low ones, whilst High Tier do the same with any and all others. The only exception might be that a Pending: Expansion is stalled when a conflict goes live on it's 1st or 2nd pending day, but we personally haven't had that experience yet.
A pending Expansion can successfully be killed off if it goes live on the same day as a conflict.
Regarding Investment states I have zero knowledge since we're in densely populated space and will probably never have the opportunity to experience it (except if the Thargoids eat up the Systems around us that is...)
As for the Low Tier states - all of them can be stalled or even completely removed if worked against properly. This goes specially for Lockdowns.
In the 2+ years of the existence of our MF we've never had to deal even once with a Famine or Outbreak of any sort. But we're witnessing this with some of our BGS PMF neighbours. What we do differently then them I can't really tell.
States can be divided into 3 categories: Low, Mid and High Tier ones.
Low: Boom, Bust, Civil Unrest, Famine, Lockdown, Outbreak.
Mid: Expansion, Investment, Retreat
High: Civil War, Election, War
The higher the Tier the more potent the States are. Meaning Mid Tier ones will cancel out Low ones, whilst High Tier do the same with any and all others. The only exception might be that a Pending: Expansion is stalled when a conflict goes live on it's 1st or 2nd pending day, but we personally haven't had that experience yet.
A pending Expansion can successfully be killed off if it goes live on the same day as a conflict.
Regarding Investment states I have zero knowledge since we're in densely populated space and will probably never have the opportunity to experience it (except if the Thargoids eat up the Systems around us that is...)
As for the Low Tier states - all of them can be stalled or even completely removed if worked against properly. This goes specially for Lockdowns.
In the 2+ years of the existence of our MF we've never had to deal even once with a Famine or Outbreak of any sort. But we're witnessing this with some of our BGS PMF neighbours. What we do differently then them I can't really tell.
I would say that Boom and Bust were "Very Low", on that - the others seem to regularly override them.
So I guess we can add them in the 4th Tier version then. Thanks for the update!
When turning in missions I have seen comments stating that my action reduced the chances of famine. Maybe your PMF did enough of these types of missions to fill (empty?) the famine bucket.
This is anecdotal, not studied or documented in any way. I suspect that these were fetch food missions.
Maybe lots of sales of food to the controlling station helped also?
I think famines and outbreaks tend to happen if you have systems with low influence. Tend to see it on factions that have been fairly low influence.
Outbreak: own an Agricultural station in an even moderately busy area - that attracts Biowaste missions which increase destination Outbreak. Can be countered by running Biowaste missions from your faction to someone else's Agricultural.
Famine I've seen show up occasionally on the losing sides of wars, but not really otherwise.
We're flying pretty much everything including a truckload of Passenger missions. I guess some of them are quite useful to help with either Famine or Outbreak.
For reference: https://cdb.sotl.org.uk/missions
When looking at that it seems that the only way to preemptively avoid a Famine is to fly Bulk Passengers (Scientists). I am missing the entry Passenger: deliver VIP (Chief Scientist) though. These also help not getting a Famine state.
Next time I encounter one I post it.
I've got 16 factions in Famine at the moment, one is in its 25th day. Famines and Outbreaks come and go by themselves.
I think there is a slow trickle into the Famine and Outbreak buckets (and possibly Boom) as these states regularly pop up even in very isolated systems. If this is the case, it should be possible to head off these states - even before they become pending - by bringing in regular supplies of the appropriate commodities.
A Famine in an Agriculral system is interesting, but there's always a story to explain it.
Thanks. A lot of the VIP types are really rare around here, so I don't see them when I actually have cabins to do them with.
Got them a few times and I think I even posted one with CMDR Henry Sanlowe (the one who got me towards the linked site in the first place). Guess he didn't deliver the pic or I just imagined it sending to him. Oh well, going to be on the lookout regardless.