HIGH YEALD SHELL... what is going on?

bladebss

bladebss
So i have an asp explorer with 4 overcharged cannons all exept one is high yeald shell.
(This is grandfathered ship and modules btw)

I log in and my stuff has been nerfed into the ground!

My cannons now do 7.8 dps or 17 dmg per shot! Grade 5 overcharged cannons! They did 34 dmg last time i loged in!



Hand off my grandfarther frontier!
Now can some one confirm if this is the case with new 3.0 high yeald cannons.. this must be a bug! I just want to know how big. And if its worth re-rolling.

[video=youtube_share;xQLJWKX_G2Q]Https://youtu.be/xQLJWKX_G2Q[/video]


Also have this sour taste in my mouth...


-----------------UPDATE:--------------------

After having a little cry and a moan. Taking yet another big boy breath and coming to play i decided to test the nerfed cannons i had on some local npcs... now its hard to verify anything but they seemed to still work prety good.. i killed an eagles hull in 2 vollys of long range class one.. that do 5.5dps or 11damage each.. didnt seem right but they could have been super soft.

I have ran out of time to test but i will catch a few hours tomorow evening and see if i can make shure this IS a nerf or just a dispalay error.

If any one else have any info that might shed some light please do tell.
 
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EvoBeardy

EvoBeardy
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...on-PA-thermal-load?highlight=High+yield+shell

There's a much less informative, but still confirmational segment regarding HYS in the Patch Notes, but the link above provides all the information you need to know. It's nothing to do with legacy vs new modules, it's a global change due to HYS being OP to hell. Again, read the linked post for information.

It's not useless, it's just not as insta-kill as it was.
 

Red Anders

Red Anders
Usually I don't bother picking up on spelling but seriously, the word 'yield' is actually on-screen in front of you in the video you uploaded, plus you've obviously been looking at it in-game right before posting to check that your cannons still had the effect applied, so how in the name of all that is holy can you possibly write it as 'yeald' three times in your post and thread title and also do it in the youtube video title?
 

bladebss

bladebss
EvoBeardy said:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...on-PA-thermal-load?highlight=High+yield+shell

There's a much less informative, but still confirmational segment regarding HYS in the Patch Notes, but the link above provides all the information you need to know. It's nothing to do with legacy vs new modules, it's a global change due to HYS being OP to hell. Again, read the linked post for information.

It's not useless, it's just not as insta-kill as it was.
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Stock cannons do 22 dmg... how is this not a massive nerf!
High yeald was only op realy in beta3.0


My long range cannon now does..
I now do 11 breach damage... 11!
And 11.6 dmg per shot... same breach chance!

Halving the damage of my wepon is not ok. It said in the patch notes the breach damage and range was nerfed not the whole thing!

Rail guns are untoached so why is cannons not the same?

Cmdr Ultra said:
Thanks for the video, I was curious about the changes.

Yeah, how do misspell Yield when your looking right at it.
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Im dyslexic i just make it up as i go lol some times i do different spelling for the same word in the same sentance.
 
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TheSisko

TheSisko
OP isn't wrong.

My 3C HYS Cannon now does 49.5% less damage compared to a 3C unengineered stock cannon. Yay?

3C HYS Cannon: 18.9 damage
Stock 3C Cannon: 37.4 damage

Yeah, I know why it was nerfed, but this strikes me as too far. Oh well, they looked useful for a week in beta, even if they were overpowered. Add to that that the radius of explosive damage caused by HYS has been reduced and you might as well file this blueprint under 'useless upgrade' and 'waste of time engineering them'.
 
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Cmdr Ultra

Cmdr Ultra
So the damage is reduced but the multiple modules damage remains.

Feels pretty wrong for High Yield to be weaker than Stock. Make them 25% stronger than stock at least.
 

Red Anders

Red Anders
bladebss said:
Im dyslexic i just make it up as i go lol some times i do different spelling for the same word in the same sentance.
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Haha fair enough mate and cheers for not being a about it, you probably did a better job of that than I did :D I did wonder after I wrote it actually, a couple of lads I know at work are dyslexic, I should have spotted it really.

I've always thought it's particularly ironic that dyslexia is such a hard word to spell...

dognosh said:
He could be dyslexic,so stop it guys...

edit : Ninja'd...
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I wasn't actually taking the p by the way, I think OP realised that at least.
 
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bladebss

bladebss
GODofDUTY83 said:
The grind I put in for those cannons and now theyre useless. Cheers.
Im done with engineers.
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I feel ya. Took me some BIG breaths to even log in today knowing the changes that awaited me and the MASSIVE amount of work i was going to have to do to get all my ships back up to spec. Super deflated now.. was going to legacy all my 2.4 ships in an act of defiance and just make new ones in 3.0 so i could remember the good old days of advanced engeneering.. but it looks like that dream had died... along with my motivation.

I will have to give it a couple of weeks or so untill i muster up the motivation to look at elite again i think.
 

TheSisko

TheSisko
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Lee Archer

Lee Archer
EvoBeardy said:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...on-PA-thermal-load?highlight=High+yield+shell

There's a much less informative, but still confirmational segment regarding HYS in the Patch Notes, but the link above provides all the information you need to know. It's nothing to do with legacy vs new modules, it's a global change due to HYS being OP to hell. Again, read the linked post for information.

It's not useless, it's just not as insta-kill as it was.
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Be nice oh techno guru.
Can you just sympathize with someone who finds their e’s messed with without a meta analysis.
Everyone’s a mr.knowitall, oh,
wait, I’m on the internet.

I’ll see myself out.
 

EvoBeardy

EvoBeardy
There's a decent chance they'll alter the stats upwards a bit, if it's proven to be too much of a knock down and outside of fairness.
Obviously the spread to internals needed to be thinned but maybe they went too far with the overall damage, until then either carry on using them or swap them for something else.

Bit silly to give up on ED just cos of a single weapon change, no matter the grind. We've all grinded for something.

Then again, sometimes a break is good. Best to you either way.

Lee Archer said:
Be nice oh techno guru.
Can you just sympathize with someone who finds their e’s messed with without a meta analysis.
Everyone’s a mr.knowitall, oh,
wait, I’m on the internet.

I’ll see myself out.
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Wuht?...
 
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NecasekO

N
This change doesn't make sense to me. As I read the patch release notes I thought the only change was reduced module damage and explosion radius, but now I see it also decreases shield and hull damage by half, on top of the 10% reduced rate of fire.

I actually was quite happy with the broken behavior in 2.4 where the weapon dealt decent damage to shields, good damage to hull and some extra module damage (very unreliable). Now this effect basically only does AOE module damage and is unusable as a general purpose weapon.
 
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