This was'nt fair

[kiario]

Had ilicit cargo on me.(from earlier mission)
Mission now to collect the black box from (2) unique uss
I find the blue uss
Drop to normal space
locate one black box
Suddenly two Anacondas and several other vessels enter and fire at my SideWinder destryoing it in 3 seconds

Is this fair and working as it should?
Had no chance to do anything.
It was a beginner mission since i did a save wipe.

Not salty, but is this the norm now?

 

[Bomba Luigi]

There always has a been a possibilty that enemy ships drop in on a salvage USS, expierienced that more then once. Alltough 2 Condas and some other ships seem unusal over the top for a new cmdr.

 

[Clifra Jones]

Had ilicit cargo on me.(from earlier mission)
Mission now to collect the black box from (2) unique uss
I find the blue uss
Drop to normal space
locate one black box
Suddenly two Anacondas and several other vessels enter and fire at my SideWinder destryoing it in 3 seconds

Is this fair and working as it should?
Had no chance to do anything.
It was a beginner mission since i did a save wipe.

Not salty, but is this the norm now?

My experience, if you have cargo, especially from other discovery/pickup missions you may get jumped by multiple NPC pirates. Happened to me 3 times in one trip collecting "secret" stuff. Barely escaped with one ring of shields at one USS.

I usually bring a limpet controller that will control 2 limpets and try and be as fast as I can. If you in a sidey I'd turn in the cargo after each time you find it.

Oh, and who said it was ever fair out there in the black! It's dangerous out there!

There always has a been a possibilty that enemy ships drop in on a salvage USS, expierienced that more then once. Alltough 2 Condas and some other ships seem unusal over the top for a new cmdr.

Would have to agree with you there. 2 Conda's against a low combat rank does seem a but harsh!

 

[kiario]

Done these missions many times when I dust of the game from the shelf and this over the top warm welcome has never happened before.

But thanks for the tips. Going to off load cargo in the future.

Just seems a bit off balance since it was a harmless mission . I was in a a sidey one of the pirates was expert viper.

 

[evanevery]

If you want (need) to fly unmolested (PVE), never carry any cargo or data missions or be wanted... Even if interdicted they will just leave unhappy.

I have an AspX "Space Taxi" which is stripped down and engineered for max range. It just gets me where I need to be very quickly. It doesn't have weapons and just enough shield to be able to land without hull damage. I never fly it with Cargo or Data Missions and I've never needed any weapons, shields, or defensive hardware...

"There is no crying in baseball" and "There is no cargo in "Space Taxi""...

 

[Wyaston Hypatia]

There's a strong suspicion over in the newcomers section that there's a bug in these mission. I had a similar experience with a new started commander, as have several others. There's a bug report in on it, if you want to add to it.

 

[UmbraRex]

this has been going on Since I started, admittedly not THAT long ago but...

Any salvage MSS has the possibility of spawning pirates.

Have an empty hold and they will leave you alone, make some comment about carrying gold next time and wake out. A high enough ranked one will even ignore low value cargo.

 

[Wyaston Hypatia]

this has been going on Since I started, admittedly not THAT long ago but...

Any salvage MSS has the possibility of spawning pirates.

Have an empty hold and they will leave you alone, make some comment about carrying gold next time and wake out. A high enough ranked one will even ignore low value cargo.

If you haven't done it in 3.0 please try this and see what happens. There has been a change. We are in a period of finding all the bugs. It's not a good idea to assume what was happening 2.4 is what happens in 3.0.

 

[evanevery]

Used to be they would jump you just for limpets but I think that was fixed not too long ago... However, 1 ton of biowaste and you could be toast!

Point is, if you are vulnerable, don't carry cargo any longer than absolutely necessary. Especially if its illicit cargo as now you have TWO problems. I've jumped out of a system to return illicit salvage only to have to jump back in and complete other missions I have had there (to avoid getting wanted in a system I frequently "work")...

If you haven't done it in 3.0 please try this and see what happens. There has been a change. We are in a period of finding all the bugs. It's not a good idea to assume what was happening 2.4 is what happens in 3.0.

I believe UmbraRex was saying the behavior you experienced was NOT new. What exactly would you like us to to try and what are you suggesting might have changed? Are pirates now attacking ships with empty holds? ('cause thats NOT what the OP was reporting - the OP had illicit cargo...)

 

[UmbraRex]

If you haven't done it in 3.0 please try this and see what happens. There has been a change. We are in a period of finding all the bugs. It's not a good idea to assume what was happening 2.4 is what happens in 3.0.

I've done a few salvage missions since 3.0 dropped with no issues, no pirates either.

I will keep an eye on them as I continue to run salvage missions.

 

[Wyaston Hypatia]

I've done a few salvage missions since 3.0 dropped with no issues, no pirates either.

I will keep an eye on them as I continue to run salvage missions.

Thanks, please keep looking, as it will be good to have more people give their view of the encounters.
I'd done several before any pirates turned up, then bam! As I'm playing Ironman with this account I'm reluctant to try again. I might give my second account a go tomorrow, but as it's not a new start the results might not be the same.

 

[evanevery]

So what are we looking for? Pirates? Pirates have ALWAYS spawned randomly at salvage points, USS, etc...

 

[Ziljan]

Had ilicit cargo on me.(from earlier mission)
Mission now to collect the black box from (2) unique uss
I find the blue uss
Drop to normal space
locate one black box
Suddenly two Anacondas and several other vessels enter and fire at my SideWinder destryoing it in 3 seconds

Is this fair and working as it should?
Had no chance to do anything.
It was a beginner mission since i did a save wipe.

Not salty, but is this the norm now?

Check the mission rank before you accept. If you are in a sidey, don't accept tough missions and you'll be fine. Also, these missions give you plenty of time to scoop and charge FSD before the the Pirates show up.

 

[Viscera]

Check the mission rank before you accept.

Agree, to me this sounds like you may possibly have taken on one of the elite level missions which will spawn this sort of stuff on you.

I too took 3.0 as a time to reset my save too, and have been having no issues, but the high (well higher) paying missions do tend to be for higher rankings.

 

[Sentenza]

Nothing unusual unfortunately. In my experience, about 1 recovery mission in 4 comes with an ambush. I ended setting up a dedicated Cobra for these missions.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

Other users are experiencing this issue. You may want to write up a ticket.

As much as we've tried to pick through the details, they way these other folks have described it sounds unreasonable. I agree that ambushes are normal, but the way it has been described there is no chance for escape.

I plan on testing the scenario this weekend to see if I come across the same thing. Will build a stock cobra and go around pulling recovery missions.

 

[GG7]

There always has a been a possibilty that enemy ships drop in on a salvage USS, expierienced that more then once. Alltough 2 Condas and some other ships seem unusal over the top for a new cmdr.

If you stack missions, there is a good chance that MULTIPLE NPC will converge on you at some point from different missions. Each running off their own mission instructions. Salvage Missions almost always involve a 3-4 ship enemy dynamic that activates a few minutes after leaving port.

You are expected to destroy these ships one at a time. But if you have several open salvage missions going, this will multiply the number of ships coming after you.

I bet the OP and others who are complaining about this are stacking multiple missions of the same type, thus 2 Anacondas or more is totally something to be expected.

Rule #1 -- READ the MISSION DESCRIPTION before accepting.

Rule #2 -- Don't Ignore Your "Mission Critical Message" announcements, which will often inform you of incoming enemy ships related to a mission.

Rule #3 -- If you can't handle multiple Threat Level 3-4 ships at one time, avoid stacking these mission types.

Consider your experience part of the learning curve. And if all you have is a Sidewinder, stop stacking missions that can include enemy ship engagements. You are going to loose money more than you will be making any.

 

[BDelacroix]

What rank level was the mission? Game lets you take missions outside your league.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

What rank level was the mission? Game lets you take missions outside your league.

Newcomer reported last night that his mission was Pioneer, which is pretty high. Still, he was saying "seconds". We challenged him on it and gave him some guidance, and he said it didn't help.

Then another guy claimed the same, and another.

Think it's worth a test, myself.

 

[cmdrrdmc]

Hey, fairly new elite player here (~100 hrs), adding another data point on the issue. Black box salvage missions were my bread and butter before 3.0. With the factions I had high rep with, I was getting about 300-500k per mission, and I never once got ambushed upon arriving. After 3.0, I'm getting the same issue you are. Even low value, low rank missions (~150k) result in me showing up, 3-5 massive ships appearing nowhere, blasting me to smithereens in seconds. This happens over half the time, with my admittedly limited data set (~10 mission attempts since 3.0). Thought something was up. I've since stopped doing the missions because they were no longer worth it. Even in my pretty well outfitted cobra mkiii, I have zero chance of getting away before they destroy me. 1 or 2 hits and my shield is gone.