The SRV has fallen and it can't get up

[CMDR Dumbfries]

Just want to start off by saying that the planets and terrain in 3.0 look awesome.
Great job.
The problem I'm having is that the SRV can't deal with the new elevation changes. On planets with gravity over 1G, it will not climb up what I would consider a moderate grade.
Can we give the little guy a bit more torque to deal with steep inclines please?

 

[mojonaut]

Just want to start off by saying that the planets and terrain in 3.0 look awesome.
Great job.
The problem I'm having is that the SRV can't deal with the new elevation changes. On planets with gravity over 1G, it will not climb up what I would consider a moderate grade.
Can we give the little guy a bit more torque to deal with steep inclines please?

Has anything changed wrt terrain? I thought that was a Q4 release

In the mean time try reversing up

 

[CMDR Dumbfries]

Has anything changed wrt terrain? I thought that was a Q4 release

In the mean time try reversing up

It seems like I'm finding planets with more rugged terrain, higher mountains, deeper valleys and canyons.
Reversing doesn't work. At first I thought i was driving with the cargo scoop deployed but that wasn't the case either.

 

[Dakron Nova]

Funny you should say that...I came across the same yesterday struggled to get up an incline, I just thought I was a bit rusty as hadnt played for a while.

 

[Chris Simon]

I don't seem to be having problems with anything up to 40°. Just like before. Anything steeper and one has to employ thrusters and momentum.
Maybe you just found a particularly annoying planet. I've had those. Some planets just don't want you driving over them. They will spin you, kick you and trap you in a hole in the ground, no matter what you do

 

[Cmdr Esteban]

Instead of driving straight up the incline, try zigzagging in a switchback fashion. It will take longer, though, obviously.

 

[CMDR Dumbfries]

I don't seem to be having problems with anything up to 40°. Just like before. Anything steeper and one has to employ thrusters and momentum.
Maybe you just found a particularly annoying planet. I've had those. Some planets just don't want you driving over them. They will spin you, kick you and trap you in a hole in the ground, no matter what you do

I've tried two planets so far. The first was 1G and the second was 1.4G. On a smooth incline the SRV will grind to halt and even start going backwards with 4 pips to engines and full throttle. I can't judge for certain but both appeared to be in the neighborhood of 45 degrees. The SRV has six wheel drive and should be able to handle it at slow speeds.
If you want a good laugh, shoot an outcrop on a hillside and watch the mats roll down. I feel like there should be Benny Hill music playing when I'm trying to collect them as they run away from my cargo scoop.

 

[Lightspeed]

Is it possible to boost the SRV with materials? Same as we can boost the hull strength?

 

[Chris Simon]

I've tried two planets so far. The first was 1G and the second was 1.4G. On a smooth incline the SRV will grind to halt and even start going backwards with 4 pips to engines and full throttle. I can't judge for certain but both appeared to be in the neighborhood of 45 degrees. The SRV has six wheel drive and should be able to handle it at slow speeds.
If you want a good laugh, shoot an outcrop on a hillside and watch the mats roll down. I feel like there should be Benny Hill music playing when I'm trying to collect them as they run away from my cargo scoop.

You can't use full throttle. It's like flooring a Viper on the snow - you won't get anywhere. The trick is to work with the throttle and NOT let the tires slip.
That being said, 45° MIGHT be too much on 1+G planet. You can't be unreasonable. It's still a car, not a mountain goat.

 

[SentineI]

Instead of driving straight up the incline, try zigzagging in a switchback fashion. It will take longer, though, obviously.

This works in real life too!

 

[Cmdr Esteban]

This works in real life too!

Whence came the idea

I got stuck up a nameless mountain on some god-forsaken planet once and suddenly remembered RL experience.

I'd previously been sceptical but it turned out that real life actually does have some uses after all.

 

[CMDR Dumbfries]

You can't use full throttle. It's like flooring a Viper on the snow - you won't get anywhere. The trick is to work with the throttle and NOT let the tires slip.
That being said, 45° MIGHT be too much on 1+G planet. You can't be unreasonable. It's still a car, not a mountain goat.

There is no slippage. The tires don't move and start rolling backwards. It's not a Honda Civic. It's a SIX wheel drive all terrain vehicle.
I'm using 45 degrees as a rough estimate, but it definitely stalls on grades less than 45. The problem is that planet surfaces received an upgrade, but the SRV didn't. There is also odd throttle behavior when starting and stopping on a flat surface with small ruts and hills less than one meter high. It seems to recognize that small terrain features are over a certain grade and the SRV says "nope, not gonna climb that" when they are so small you can clearly step over them.

 

[Bertrand Du Guesclin]

There is no slippage. The tires don't move and start rolling backwards. It's not a Honda Civic. It's a SIX wheel drive all terrain vehicle.
I'm using 45 degrees as a rough estimate, but it definitely stalls on grades less than 45. The problem is that planet surfaces received an upgrade, but the SRV didn't. There is also odd throttle behavior when starting and stopping on a flat surface with small ruts and hills less than one meter high. It seems to recognize that small terrain features are over a certain grade and the SRV says "nope, not gonna climb that" when they are so small you can clearly step over them.

Did you try using the Drive Assist? The one situation in which I turn it ON is to get up some slopes. I usually activate it; and then go up the "gears" (more like cruise controle) to see which works best to drive up as quickly as possible without spinning the wheels.

In my experience the first "gear" has the most torque, but you move at a walking pace so going anywhere takes ages

 

[Ra'Kaan]

I havn't tried this in a long time so it may not work, but try less pips to eng, or zero pips.

It used to work like a granny gear and made it up many inclines that 4 pips could not.

 

[Vasco Sapien]

[video=youtube;bQlpDiXPZHQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlpDiXPZHQ[/video]

 

[CMDR Dumbfries]

I havn't tried this in a long time so it may not work, but try less pips to eng, or zero pips.

It used to work like a granny gear and made it up many inclines that 4 pips could not.

I'll have to give that a go next time. Never thought fewer pips act as low gears.
I also tried the drive assist. Couldn't tell if that was an improvement or not.

 

[Taturo]

Uhhh guys, I hate to bring you the news...


The SRV had it's weight doubled to 4t.

 

[DeathFish]

I've tried two planets so far. The first was 1G and the second was 1.4G. On a smooth incline the SRV will grind to halt and even start going backwards with 4 pips to engines and full throttle. I can't judge for certain but both appeared to be in the neighborhood of 45 degrees. The SRV has six wheel drive and should be able to handle it at slow speeds.
If you want a good laugh, shoot an outcrop on a hillside and watch the mats roll down. I feel like there should be Benny Hill music playing when I'm trying to collect them as they run away from my cargo scoop.

For what it is worth, I have found turning off flight assist makes the SRV much better. Quite why I know not.

 

[Chris Simon]

For what it is worth, I have found turning off flight assist makes the SRV much better. Quite why I know not.

Because with Assist on, throttle position=certain speed (like cruise control), while with assist off throttle position=simply throttle position, therefore much finer control over power transfer?

 

[Ra'Kaan]

I'll have to give that a go next time. Never thought fewer pips act as low gears.
I also tried the drive assist. Couldn't tell if that was an improvement or not.

So yeah, I did a bit of mountaineering today, although admitadly I didn't find the steepest incline possible hehe

I used a technique I called "bounding" where you can "surf" on the moguls using thrusters and skimming across high points and brushing your tires at various controllable bursts to fling your SRV up the incline.

You can do this going up/down hills or across a mellow plain. It's a really fun technique when mastered!

I made a video, if I ever get around to uploading =P

I totally forgot to test the lower pip climbing method lol

as far as drive assist, yeah they operate differently, and i think assist was backward in beta 3 - the biggest difference is your wheels keep rolling at zero throttle while DA/oN they skid when you zero throttle. This distinction alone causes the buggy to operate very differently, but doesn't really change a hill climb.

Uhhh guys, I hate to bring you the news...


The SRV had it's weight doubled to 4t.

Is THAT what changed? ? It would explain a great many things!

I'll have to check some SRV livery screens