The nerf was overnerfed, as usual

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Nerf the skimmers, nerf the passengers, nerf the mining... FD, don't you think you have overnerfed the living daylights out of this thing?

So what's left? Just looking at a massacre mission... Bit over 3 million for 144 ships. No no no, it's not a system at war, so you can stack a few and go to a local conflict zone, oh noooo. It's killing pirates, so you'll have to "Try searching local res sites, nav beacons and signal sources to find your targets." That's from the mission description.

Seriously, FD? Do you even play this game? Do you play ANY game? Do you even have any idea why anyone plays games? IT'S FOR FUN, AND THIS ISN'T FUN.
 

Vorxian

Vorxian
But is removing something a nerf?

I thought a nerf was to 'down-tune' something? Utterly removing something leaves nothing to get nerfed lol.

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Vorxian

Vorxian
Hey it's Papa Nerf!

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It's been a long day, and I need to get home :eek:
 

Artemis257

Artemis257
Vorxian said:
But is removing something a nerf?

I thought a nerf was to 'down-tune' something? Utterly removing something leaves nothing to get nerfed lol.

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actually, denial is the ultimate nerf. you can't potentially exploit what you can't do. [haha]
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
So what's left? Just looking at a massacre mission... Bit over 3 million for 144 ships.
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It is a wing massacre mission. I think it was already ack about that it is too low payout. In fact it isn't nerfed. It was too low since beginning.
 

Clifra Jones

Clifra Jones
+Mikie said:
Nerf the skimmers, nerf the passengers, nerf the mining... FD, don't you think you have overnerfed the living daylights out of this thing?

So what's left? Just looking at a massacre mission... Bit over 3 million for 144 ships. No no no, it's not a system at war, so you can stack a few and go to a local conflict zone, oh noooo. It's killing pirates, so you'll have to "Try searching local res sites, nav beacons and signal sources to find your targets." That's from the mission description.

Seriously, FD? Do you even play this game? Do you play ANY game? Do you even have any idea why anyone plays games? IT'S FOR FUN, AND THIS ISN'T FUN.
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And Pirate missions are a complete waste of time. 1.5Mc to find and kill 16 pirates. Ok, not bad. 1 hour spent (while watching Babylon 5 on Gp90) and I found 4. 2 of them were in wings of 3 where only 1 was an actual mission target. I gave up. I can make that trading in far less time.

Also the # of combat targets in massacre missions is now way to high for the value. I would just as well go to the CZ and fight for just the combat bonds.

FD, not all of us are teenagers with unlimited time to play. I have about 2-3 hours on a weeknight to play and there are considerably more missions now that I have to turn down as they are just not likely to be finished before I have to stop and I cannot be sure I will be able to play the next day.

How about combat missions that do not expire. You sign a mercenary mission that does not expire and you get paid by the kill. 100c / kill + combat bonds. Contract is valid until the war is over.
 

Clifra Jones

Clifra Jones
Cmdr Eagleboy said:
It is a wing massacre mission. I think it was already ack about that it is too low payout. In fact it isn't nerfed. It was too low since beginning.
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I have seen massacre missions with just over a 2Mc payout, single mission requiring 92 kills. Not worth it. Maybe if you have Covette and you just park it and let the turrets fore away but some of us like to fight in smaller ships or we don't have them. I am Combat Deadly with nothing larger than my Python. I just don'r have time to kill 92 targets in one evening.
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
Clifra Jones said:
I have seen massacre missions with just over a 2Mc payout, single mission requiring 92 kills. Not worth it. Maybe if you have Covette and you just park it and let the turrets fore away but some of us like to fight in smaller ships or we don't have them. I am Combat Deadly with nothing larger than my Python. I just don'r have time to kill 92 targets in one evening.
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That's definitely too low. Rebalancing and number shuffling always happen close after release so as always, I will just keep my cool :)
 

Ziljan

Ziljan
Gotta agree, the massacre missions seem to so out of proportion and are in effect impossible to complete. Even with a wing. I am a highly skilled pilot and very capable when it comes to bounty hunting (NPCs rarely last longer than 10 seconds) but I think I've maybe completed 1 massacre mission in my whole career. The rest were all auto-failed because I couldnt locate even two dozen NPCs from the target faction. Now they want us to kill over 200??? Not even in the game's best possible wing of the 4 best Elite players would I ever attempt such a grossly futile mission.
 

Vasco Sapien

Vasco Sapien
+Mikie said:
Nerf the skimmers, nerf the passengers, nerf the mining... FD, don't you think you have overnerfed the living daylights out of this thing?

So what's left? Just looking at a massacre mission... Bit over 3 million for 144 ships. No no no, it's not a system at war, so you can stack a few and go to a local conflict zone, oh noooo. It's killing pirates, so you'll have to "Try searching local res sites, nav beacons and signal sources to find your targets." That's from the mission description.

Seriously, FD? Do you even play this game? Do you play ANY game? Do you even have any idea why anyone plays games? IT'S FOR FUN, AND THIS ISN'T FUN.
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Fixing a glitch isnt a nerf.
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Fun in a game is also in the challange it presents. 100's of millions an hour isnt a challange.

 
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