6 Hours searching for Military Supercapacitors - Zero Found! 90 Military Grade Alloys found instead!

[Aashenfox]

Oh, the whole "Twice nothing is still nothing" was the very first thing that crossed my mind when I read that

It does feel as if something has changed with regards to these drops, though I can't exactly say what. Just feels different. In the week or so before the 3.0 drop, I was hitting these pretty hard so as to make use of the mat traders, and the reliable methods were quite reliable.

Since 3.0, it seems to be very much feast or famine in just getting them to drop, period, to say nothing about what they actually contain. As you noted, I think I too have only found one in a shipping lane. Anecdotally, it seems as if degraded signal sources are far more common now than they ever were before, and while there may possibly be more USS spawns, the percentage of HGE I have found seems to be down over all.

I concur, it's a gut feeling, but it's a strong one.

 

[Muetdhiver]

Brilliant. Freemium game without the premium part is good way to classify ED.

 

[GG7]

OK - Thanks! I had missed that one. So HGEs can now pop up pretty much anywhere... I'm not convinced that is an improvement. Does this dilute the number of HGEs to be found elsewhere?

One thing I have noticed is that the bulk of my HGEs at Nitikudi were near planets. This was despite the lack of seeing SHIPPING LANE displayed on the lower left info panel of your cockpit. Since the patch notes mentioned both Shipping Lanes and "Near Planets", I think my positive results at NitiKudi was down to the latter change.

But despite all that...I think we should all still lobby Frontier to increase the spawn rates of HGEs even higher. Too much is riding on Manufactured G5 mats now to have them continue to be this illusive to so many players.

 

[lovely lovely]

Well 1 hour and just the 1 HGE - MGAs at that too. Plenty of Degraded, a few Encoded (that had lots of goodies to sweep up, more frequent Convoy ones (and at > 2000ls) and Weapons fire detected (didn't get any of these earlier)
Weird is influence for all factions in system has gone up! Not sure how that could be unless there's rounding of numbers going on as the total <100%

logging out and back in to see if the instance gods are to be kind.

 

[Susanna]

Not done it scientifically at all yet, because I knew things would change in 3.0 (I was planning to do a huge engineering and materials gathering guide back in 2.4), but then with engineering no longer requiring any thought process, I thought I'd wait for the dust to settle on materials gathering then write something solely about that.

I thank you for prompting me to get started on data gathering as of now-ish.

As the saying goes... Good luck with that!

 

[Pendergast]

I'm getting a lot of convoy dispersal ss in deep space, that must be a bug right?

 

[CMDR Dreamstate]

The RNG in this game is dreadful. Most games learned these lessons 10 years ago and have developed much better mechanics to make it pleasant and less of a bore and have good progression.

Unless you trade down in a single trade tree, the Brokers are horrific.

 

[Susanna]

The simple fact that this thread exists is depressing.

And a perfect example with everythign wrong with the signal source "gameplay".

Imagine....

You entre SC, you see 6 different signals in your contact list in different part of the system. Even better, you know which types...
Imagine you can drop in the distress one, get back to SC and then drop into the salvage one you spoted earlier.
Better still, interesting missions that integrate HGE's (for example) in their path...*

*For example recovering experimental medicines from a wreck that *also* contains PI's. Arrive while pirates are starting to loot the medicine.
See, not that hard to come up with *anything* better than RNG based SS spawns.

Oh I totally agree with you that even a drunk three legged newt, wearing lederhosen and whistling Deutschlandlied and flicking DB in the ear could come up with a better game mechanic than HGE spawning!!!

I quite like your sig too by the way can I pinch it for a bit?

 

[John Xenir]

Finally home

I've checked and if I introduced some confusion, I apologize.
The HGE I've encountered were actually not around, but in Ceti 54. Terribly sorry, I couldn't remember where it was until I had a look at the screenshots taken.

First HGE:

Seconds later, of course:

Jumping back into the game after quick router reboot:

Interestingly, I've encountered the first one in the trade lane, as shown in the screenshot.
I know it probably doesn't help much in establishing what to do to successfully find HGE, but maybe someone else has luck in 54 Ceti.

EDIT: digging through player journal, I've also found the other system name: Laukas HGE popped up around Laukas C, it seems.

 

[Aashenfox]

I'm getting a lot of convoy dispersal ss in deep space, that must be a bug right?

If you're still getting them more than 3000ls from any other body, then yes. Generally, inside about 1500ls of any body in any system, they're common, both in shipping lanes and deep space. At least, this was the case in 2.4.

 

[Jimmy Joe]

They way I see the brokers are nothing more than bandage on an gaping wound (RNG). RNG needs to be removed from the engineers completely, since we are achieving the same G5 levels I see no reason why some rolls take 10 times and others 5.

 

[Maka Gucci]

My understanding was that HGEs DO NOT spawn in shipping lanes... Are you saying this perceived wisdom is wrong?

You can be in the shipping lane, the USS doesn't spawn in the shipping lane.

 

[lovely lovely]

Well hour number 2 only got me 2 HGEs - so I guess was well lucky earlier with the RNG. Gonna pop into the CZ in the system see what comes from there.

 

[Straha Yeagar]

You can be in the shipping lane, the USS doesn't spawn in the shipping lane.

As of 3.0, they do now.

 

[GG7]

Well hour number 2 only got me 2 HGEs - so I guess was well lucky earlier with the RNG. Gonna pop into the CZ in the system see what comes from there.

Why don't you try another system in the same state? If I am in a system specifically for HGEs and I am not getting what I think I should be getting in terms of spawn rate, I pull up the GMAP and use the "STATE" filter to find another system in that same state.

It does make a difference a lot of times... Moving somewhere else. Give that a try.

I am also not 100% convinced that there isn't a bug in the current code that stops making these just before the system state changes. When I say just before, I am saying that this might be happening as early as 12 hours before the state officially changes to something else.

I noticed this kind of diminishing returns when my home system went from Outbreak into Boom. When the state first changed to Outbreak I was getting a lot of PIs popping up. But as time went on, they seemed to be diminishing, until eventually I couldn't find any.

The system was still listed as being in Outbreak, but less than 12 hours later it flipped into Boom and "Proto Heat Radiators" started showing up pretty frequently.

Just a hunch... To explain the possible disparities we see from one player to another. And unless you just happen to be in a system that changes state, I don't believe there is any way to know how long a system has been in any particular state when you get there.

As of 3.0, they do now.

And they are favored over Deep Space now as well.

 

[lovely lovely]

Why don't you try another system in the same state? If I am in a system specifically for HGEs and I am not getting what I think I should be getting in terms of spawn rate, I pull up the GMAP and use the "STATE" filter to find another system in that same state.

It does make a difference a lot of times... Moving somewhere else. Give that a try.

I am also not 100% convinced that there isn't a bug in the current code that stops making these just before the system state changes. When I say just before, I am saying that this might be happening as early as 12 hours before the state officially changes to something else.

I noticed this kind of diminishing returns when my home system went from Outbreak into Boom. When the state first changed to Outbreak I was getting a lot of PIs popping up. But as time went on, they seemed to be diminishing, until eventually I couldn't find any.

The system was still listed as being in Outbreak, but less than 12 hours later it flipped into Boom and "Proto Heat Radiators" started showing up pretty frequently.

Just a hunch... To explain the possible disparities we see from one player to another. And unless you just happen to be in a system that changes state, I don't believe there is any way to know how long a system has been in any particular state when you get there.



And they are favored over Deep Space now as well.

May just move on, gutted I had to go out and shutdown as I was getting fab HGE hit rate. Ah well live and learn.
It's not bad now - although just managed to get my ASP out of a conflict zone with 2% hull - I will let collector limpets collect things after a kill whilst being attacked after all :-D

 

[Aashenfox]

And they are favored over Deep Space now as well.

Source?

 

[C64Fan]

I think there’s a difference from platform to platform. I’m on PS4 and I got more than 80 Supercapacitors in 3 hours some days ago. In general I have no problems getting HGE’s to spawn at all.

This happens sometimes:

Remember that higher population = higher spawnrate of HGE’s. It means a lot. I can’t stress that enough. I use EDDB.io to find a system in the right state and with the highest possible population. I gladly travel hundreds of light years to get to a high population system. It’s worth it.

 

[Jimmy Joe]

@C64Fan How long ago was this? Can you please specify the system?

 

[C64Fan]

@C64Fan How long ago was this? Can you please specify the system?

I got the 80 Supercap. in Slatus, but I have no idea if it is still good. Some days ago as I said. I think it was 3/3. But this is not a unique system. It’s just a high population system that happened to be in the right state at the time. Also remember that both the system and the controlling faction has to be in the same state for it to be really good.

As I said - I think there’s a difference from platform to platform. I don’t doubt (now) that they just won’t spawn for some people - maybe entire platforms.