Legal Planetary Scan Missions

[Deleted member 115407]

I think legal scan missions should pay in the 100k-200k range.

You don't deserve a big payout if you aren't willing to get your hands dirty.

 

[Zenoe]

They should just add "This is considered illegal in some jursidictions" warning to scan missions

 

[GG7]

I think legal scan missions should pay in the 100k-200k range.

You don't deserve a big payout if you aren't willing to get your hands dirty.

I think 1.5 Mil as opposed to 3 Million would be better. You still have to basically do all the same amount of work. The only difference is not having to worry about paying off a 600CR bounty.

 

[Crank Larson]

They have always been illegal unfortunately, as far as I remember.

No, they weren't previously. I did loads of these while ranking up for my Cutter, and only a small percentage ended up getting me a bounty. I haven't done a mission recently, though, and certainly not since the new C&P came in.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

They should just add "This is considered illegal in some jursidictions" warning to scan missions

Or some titles and descriptions that sounds a little more "crimey".

I think 1.5 Mil as opposed to 3 Million would be better. You still have to basically do all the same amount of work. The only difference is not having to worry about paying off a 600CR bounty.

Nah, 1.5 is way to high. I'l go 600-800k, tops.

 

[ick]

My favorite scan missions are those ones where you have to go on to a bigger base, one that is a +++ security and get all the way up on top and find the mission data point.

I don't seem to get those very often. They are the most challenging. I actually had to re-stock my ammo on one of those!

 

[Deleted member 115407]

My favorite scan missions are those ones where you have to go on to a bigger base, one that is a +++ security and get all the way up on top and find the mission data point.

I don't seem to get those very often. They are the most challenging. I actually had to re-stock my ammo on one of those!

Dude, they are the naz.

Did one the other night... I love having to run away after the scan, while I shoot skimmers over the back of my SRV. Even better if you get a ship chasing you and you're able to have a good dogfight afterward.

Love those missions.

BTW, if you want to just go steal data, you don't need a mission. Any large base with "spotlight" beacon will have a core to steal.

 

[GG7]

Nah, 1.5 is way to high. I'l go 600-800k, tops.

Were you not around for the "original" versions that always sent you to a PUBLIC beacon and payed between 4-6 Million CR? A good chunk of my 5.8 Billion CR bank balance came from doing those back in the day!

 

[ChiefRedCloud]

I think 1.5 Mil as opposed to 3 Million would be better. You still have to basically do all the same amount of work. The only difference is not having to worry about paying off a 600CR bounty.

I agree ... though it may seem rather generous I do believe it's fare. But mainly there needs to be a clear delineation between hostile & friendly scans. At least from my prespective. And yes, I know, Elite IS Dangerous .... but it should also be defined clearly in most everything.

Are Thergoids hostile or not? Wellif they are shooting then you assume they are hostile. Defined ...

Chief

 

[Bomba Luigi]

while those data points you had to scan where previously most of the time public you could get a private one from time to time that gets you wanted. Not sure how exaclty it is now and if really all are private, only have done one so far today and yes that was a private one that got me wanted.

But dunno why that should be a problem, it was just some 500 credit bounty and the mission paid 3 mil. Didn't see any risk either.

 

[Suvi Anwar]

Scan missions do say that it's illegal if it's a rival faction you are being sent to scan, and with them its a 50/50 whether the data point will be public or private. However, the missions where the faction is sending you to their own facility still has that same 50/50 for a private data terminal, which is the broken part of the equation.

It's a teensy weensy little bounty.

Y'all are a bunch of goodie-two-shoes.

It's not the size of the bounty, it's the fact that it is a "bounty" and not a fine. Since it's a bounty, you have to spend asspain amounts of time searching for and going to an Interstellar broker to clear the stupid 400CR.

 

[GG7]

while those data points you had to scan where previously most of the time public you could get a private one from time to time that gets you wanted. Not sure how exaclty it is now and if really all are private, only have done one so far today and yes that was a private one that got me wanted.

But dunno why that should be a problem, it was just some 500 credit bounty and the mission paid 3 mil. Didn't see any risk either.

They are like 98% Private now and always cause you to incur a bounty. It isn't the bounty amount that is the hassle. Its the fact that the entire system you complete one of these in becomes off limits until you visit a Broker and clear the bounty or bounties, since you can often pickup multiple missions to the same planet/system.

It's a teensy weensy little bounty.

Y'all are a bunch of goodie-two-shoes.

Its obvious you don't do many of these. You wouldn't be throwing shade on everyone else if you did.

 

[UmbraRex]

No, they are not ALL illegal. There are some where you have to scan a 'Public' data point and doing so does not get you a bounty.

MOST however are private data points, have trespass zones, and WILL give you a bounty upon scanning, even if you didn't enter the trespass zone.

 

[GG7]

Scan missions do say that it's illegal if it's a rival faction you are being sent to scan, and with them its a 50/50 whether the data point will be public or private. However, the missions where the faction is sending you to their own facility still has that same 50/50 for a private data terminal, which is the broken part of the equation.




It's not the size of the bounty, it's the fact that it is a "bounty" and not a fine. Since it's a bounty, you have to spend asspain amounts of time searching for and going to an Interstellar broker to clear the stupid 400CR.

I have always considered the PRIVATE Local Faction versions to be bugged, since those should obviously be friendly installations and not make you Wanted for scanning a "friendly" comm beacon. That would mean those should always be PUBLIC, since I am not aware of another mechanic that differentiates between friend and foe.

No, they are not ALL illegal. There are some where you have to scan a 'Public' data point and doing so does not get you a bounty.

The percentage of those is so low as to almost not be worth even mentioning. I have 23 of these in my Transactions Panel as we speak. I have done over 200 of them in the last 7 days. 2 of them were Public.

TWO!

 

[Manticore]

I like surface scan missions and have done my fair share. I can make good credits from them when repped up with a faction.

As for the trespass bounties: I celebrate being lawless in this game.

My opinion(s).

 

[Bomba Luigi]

They are like 98% Private now and always cause you to incur a bounty. It isn't the bounty amount that is the hassle. Its the fact that the entire system you complete one of these in becomes off limits until you visit a Broker and clear the bounty or bounties, since you can often pickup multiple missions to the same planet/system.

Just make sure you don't pick a mission sending you to place controlled by the faction that is controlling the station you pick up the mission from (which they normaly don't do anyway) so you can keep dock there and access everything. I was flying around with that bounty for a while till another mission happend to send to place with a intersellar factor and then I paid the bounty.

If you get another scan mission sending you to the same place just do it while you have a bounty, its not a problem flying around there scanning some more with a bounty.

 

[SunnyD]

My take on these missions (which I love btw):

#1 - The RNG on them whether legal or not absolutely sucks. 90% of the time it's a private data point which means you get a bounty.
#2 - The search zone faction doesn't match the designated mission faction unless the designated mission faction just happens to be the system controlling faction. When you take the mission the mission states target faction is A, but when you get to the mission site it's actually faction B - which is the controlling faction for the system. This causes major issues with the C&P system.
#3 - Because of #2 you are never sure exactly what effect the mission has on BGS, if any effect at all.
#4 - The payouts are fabulous, along with the scan rewards.
#5 - There's a #5, but I'm not going to share it.
#6 - Also because of #2 you simply NEVER take planetary scan missions with targets in the same system you start in.

 

[Garand1987]

Yeah far as I can remember all scan missions have always been ‘illegal’. Even when the people sending you to do it own the installation in question. If you want some that won’t gain a bounty, check the system on your map before going and accepting the mission. If it’s in an anarchy system, it’s the lawless west. Sure it’s illegal, but who’s gonna tell? Scan away and mash those skimmers with impunity.

 

[Garand1987]

Also, with the new C&P system if you scan illegal points you’ll get a bounty and won’t be able to make port to cash in if the bounty is placed by the controlling faction of the station you need to return to. HOWEVER, bounties gained in the course of completing a mission task carry no notoriety points. Thus, you can scan, hop to a IF, pay immediately, then go cash in.

 

[GG7]

If you get another scan mission sending you to the same place just do it while you have a bounty, its not a problem flying around there scanning some more with a bounty.

I already do that. I often end up with several at the same planet, so I just go back into SC and back down to do the next one. Only problem with stacking like that is the mission will sometimes fail to complete and you have to do it again before moving on. (Same bug from 2.4, but not as common as before)

In terms of the Public/Legal versions... When I say I have only seen TWO, I am referring to only having TWO presented to me from the mission board over those 7 days. I know the difference. They just rarely come up. And when I say rarely, I am talking almost a "Hen's Teeth" level of rare.

I doubt many ED players have done as many of this mission type as I have. I know it like the back of my hand starting with the original versions, which worked great and paid double of what we get now. ALL but a tiny percentage were totally legal. Then came the infamous bug that allowed you to scan ONE beacon and suddenly every single scan mission you were holding was magically completed in one go!

That was very similar to the recent Skimmer debacle. They didn't remove the scan missions though... It took till the next update for that exploit to go away. It was at this point where the PRIVATE Beacons made their appearance in mass, the rewards were cut by 50% and most of the missions failed to complete after meeting all the objectives.

I obviously stopped playing them until 3.0 fixed the completion problem for the most part. But all the other nerfs remained in place. Including the total flip from Public to Private beacons.