Open play trolls

[StiTch]

Apart from the petty satisfaction of destroying someone who probably didn't want (or deserve in the sense of not being wanted/not pledged to a Power/not carrying cargo) to get into Combat with you anyway...what's the difference?

Player A wants to UA bomb a station taking part in a charity CG.

Player B interdicts player A to stop them.

Player A combat logs, and proceeds to finish his delivery in PG.

Glad to know this is seen as acceptable behaviour by the PvE community. I'll bear that in mind for my future activities

There are even some people who used a cheat to give them G5 rolls for G1 mats - those people should of course be instabanned amiright?

Including the many many PvE players that took part in it, but didn't become the focus of attention because only PvP folk had the pineapples to reveal the exploit? An exploit that was fixed days later?

Still waiting on that CL fix though that FD have definitely been working on since, well, about the start of the game

 

[frostypaw]

You can cherry-pick all you want, but it doesn't negate my point.

Yes, yes it does.

It's ridiculous hypocritical and that's why it goes down this way. Not a hope of being taken seriously with that stance.

Glad to know this is seen as acceptable behaviour by the PvE community. I'll bear that in mind for my future activities

You were doing that anyway, you're fooling noone.

Do you people think everyone else is stupid and not going to spot this?!?!?!?

 

[Hellakitty]

Ah yes, because nothing says "active and welcoming Community" than stomping some poor new guy in a sidewinder in your g5 Engineered Corvette/Anaconda/FDL to give them the "the potential psychological effect of having your ship destroyed"

I was waiting for this.

Cue the armchair psychiatrists!

 

[jasonbirder]

You can cherry-pick all you want, but it doesn't negate my point.

I didn't realise it was a "substantive" point...I thought you were just saying "People foolish enough to Play in Open" (or "emergent content" as you'd no doubt describe them) deserve to suffer (rebuy/lost expo data/a somewhat "sinister sounding" Psychological Cost) for forgetting to log into solo/whatever Private Group their friends are on...

 

[frostypaw]

I was waiting for this.

Cue the armchair psychiatrists!

Nobody made any psychological judgements about anyone else there - can you show where they did?

Shortly after you back up your previous claim about "late-stage rabid, hyperbolic and highly unreasonable" posts that nobody else can see ideally.

 

[Marra Morgan]

That's a very flexible thing though. You'll find plenty of people ready to freak out at combat logging who are perfectly happy with board flipping for infinite cash or relogging at Dav's Hope for infinite mats.

FDev have explicitly called out Combat Logging as cheating. It's very straightforward to me.

 

[Deleted member 115407]

I didn't realise it was a "substantive" point...I thought you were just saying "People foolish enough to Play in Open" (or "emergent content" as you'd no doubt describe them) deserve to suffer (rebuy/lost expo data/a somewhat "sinister sounding" Psychological Cost) for forgetting to log into solo/whatever Private Group their friends are on...

That's fine. You're obviously mired in salt and are unwilling to recognize any mode or style of play outside of just meandering aimlessly and ineffectually through the game.

I'm not going to continue this discussion with you.

Yes, yes it does.

It's ridiculous hypocritical and that's why it goes down this way. Not a hope of being taken seriously with that stance.

You were doing that anyway, you're fooling noone.

Do you people think everyone else is stupid and not going to spot this?!?!?!?

Same goes for you.

I wonder if it hurts, deep down inside, to be so intellectually dishonest? No matter, though, that's your cross to bear.

 

[jasonbirder]

Player A wants to UA bomb a station taking part in a charity CG.
Player B interdicts player A to stop them.
Player A combat logs, and proceeds to finish his delivery in PG.
Glad to know this is seen as acceptable behaviour by the PvE community. I'll bear that in mind for my future activities

I must admit...I'd always assumed that UA bombing was carried out by PvP players...who'd managed to find a new way of "breaking the game" for everyone else...frustrated that they can't directly inflict "psychological suffering" on people who've chosen not to be their "Emergent Content"
But as the people (in the loosest possible sense) ALWAYS do it in Solo anyway...its a bit of a moot point...

 

[seko]

Come to Mobius, we have cookies lol.

biscuits !

 

[StiTch]

You were doing that anyway, you're fooling noone.

Do you people think everyone else is stupid and not going to spot this?!?!?!?

What an exceptional piece of flawless and well-founded logic that absolutely and definitely disproves my point.

You should really consider a career in law with that kind of ironclad argument up your sleeve

 

[Hellakitty]

Nobody made any psychological judgements about anyone else there - can you show where they did?

Shortly after you back up your previous claim about "late-stage rabid, hyperbolic and highly unreasonable" posts that nobody else can see ideally.

Your neckbeard is showing. This ain't reddit, son.

 

[frostypaw]

FDev have explicitly called out Combat Logging as cheating. It's very straightforward to me.

Of course it is

Of course it's also very straightforwards to other people - the question is whether you can accept that other people's opinions matter.

Your neckbeard is showing. This ain't reddit, son.

So no. You can't show any of what you claimed existed.

Your ForumPvP is not good. Don't entirely make things up or you end up with egg on your face

 

[jasonbirder]

meandering aimlessly and ineffectually through the game

Ah...my apologies, I didn't realise...unrealistic 1vs1 duels (frequently between peer-matched ships NOT conducting any kind of mission etc) is MEaningful Gameplay...
Everything else...meaningless and ineffectual...
My Bad...
Though if 1 vs 1 Combat, divorced from the wider Universe, in similar spec ships is SO important to Players and is the TRUE Gameplay Content of ELite Dangerous...why is CQC so quiet?

 

[Marra Morgan]

Of course it is

Of course it's also very straightforwards to other people - the question is whether you can accept that other people's opinions matter.

When it comes to what is and isn't cheating, only FDev's opinion matters.

 

[frostypaw]

Same goes for you.

I wonder if it hurts, deep down inside, to be so intellectually dishonest? No matter, though, that's your cross to bear.

That's hilarious

Discussion-logging at it's finest. You should learn from jason he just evaporates quietly which is much more graceful than flipping the board and stomping out

When it comes to what is and isn't cheating, only FDev's opinion matters.

And they've been perfectly clear

 

[Hellakitty]

So no. You can't show any of what you claimed existed.

Your ForumPvP is not good. Don't entirely make things up or you end up with egg on your face

As I thought.

Arguing with neckbeards, it's like playing chess with a pigeon; no matter how good you are at chess the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

 

[Wasp0]

Tbf, he struck lucky in your case!

I'll see you in the group then

 

[frostypaw]

As I thought.

Er.... but you're the pigeon.

You've been asked to cite evidence for two of your allegations - you've not done so and declared victory anyway.

Literally all you had to do was provide examples of what you said.

Oh dear.

 

[StiTch]

Er.... but you're the pigeon.

You've been asked to cite evidence for two of your allegations - you've not done so and declared victory anyway.

Literally all you had to do was provide examples of what you said.

Oh dear.

For Hellakitty's benefit, I thought I'd give an example of what a logical and constructive answer should look like:

Player A wants to UA bomb a station taking part in a charity CG.

Player B interdicts player A to stop them.

Player A combat logs, and proceeds to finish his delivery in PG.

Glad to know this is seen as acceptable behaviour by the PvE community. I'll bear that in mind for my future activities

You were doing that anyway, you're fooling noone.

Do you people think everyone else is stupid and not going to spot this?!?!?!?

I mean I am sure it is no biggie, but ya can definitely top this off by citing evidence of this, aye? Someone so hasty to require evidence be referenced for any point made would surely have their own facts in order with evidence on hand to back it up, so I am obviously not asking much of you. A simple task for a regular Shakespeare, surely

 

[Hellakitty]

Er.... but you're the pigeon.

You've been asked to cite evidence for two of your allegations - you've not done so and declared victory anyway.

Literally all you had to do was provide examples of what you said.

Oh dear.

So you can play a game of hunt and twist the semantics?

Nah thanks kidda, you're good on that one. Go find someone else to troll.