Hundreds of credits or millions of credits in bounties, y’all should’ve had the sand to face us in 2.4. At least then you had a chance.
Now you’ve none.
Now you’ve none.
New crime and punishment system sucks.
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Hehe, I was part of that wing hunting you (and had the KWS scanner). That was a total blast! Well played to you getting away.
There used to be, but they didn't want the forums turning into a popularity contest. Like Reddit.
It's the fun of the hunt and chase [big grin][big grin][big grin][big grin]
And yet people complain we are greifing when we hunt these wanted folk.
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I don't understand how you can bring half a system into the game.
The current Crime & Punishment System does not deserve this name, it is only punishment.
It also applies not only to PvP players, but also to PvElers. Currently you can build beautiful combat ships, but you can only use them to a limited extent. Has a developer really thought about it?
Any form of criminal play is pointless. Even offered illegal missions are pointless, which is especially due to the Notoriety system which effectively prevents to get rid of bountys, because you are not allowed to visit a IF
Introducing a punishment system without simultaneously bringing appropriate crime content is a serious mistake that will only cause other players to migrate again. This is a pity, because this update actually had the potential to win back "lost" players.
Elite is a space sandbox. Every playing style should be able to develop, because only through variety such a sandbox remains interesting.
Instead of "only punishment" there should be Risk & Reward
the fraction system with the current punishment system leads both the fraction system and Powerplay ad absurdum or into a dead end.
Anarchy systems should always have all Station services open.
I don't know what the intention behind this system was. Should it really be PvP? PvP only affects the fact that more and more players are turning their backs on the game.
Besides it affects PvE Players, which do not only want to follow repetitive and boring gameplay.
The current Crime & Punishment System does not deserve this name, it is only punishment.
It also applies not only to PvP players, but also to PvElers. Currently you can build beautiful combat ships, but you can only use them to a limited extent. Has a developer really thought about it?
Any form of criminal play is pointless. Even offered illegal missions are pointless, which is especially due to the Notoriety system which effectively prevents to get rid of bountys, because you are not allowed to visit a IF
Introducing a punishment system without simultaneously bringing appropriate crime content is a serious mistake that will only cause other players to migrate again. This is a pity, because this update actually had the potential to win back "lost" players.
Elite is a space sandbox. Every playing style should be able to develop, because only through variety such a sandbox remains interesting.
Instead of "only punishment" there should be Risk & Reward
the fraction system with the current punishment system leads both the fraction system and Powerplay ad absurdum or into a dead end.
Anarchy systems should always have all Station services open.
I don't know what the intention behind this system was. Should it really be PvP? PvP only affects the fact that more and more players are turning their backs on the game.
Besides it affects PvE Players, which do not only want to follow repetitive and boring gameplay.
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It really is. I don't even care about the size of the bounty.
This is me when my KWS reveals a fugitive criminal...
[video=youtube_share;zuqBcyB0cZI]https://youtu.be/zuqBcyB0cZI[/video]
Arguendo
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Wow. Westerns really are the new black.
Now, are you saying that the traders that are being scanned and killed, killed vin's friend? Or your friend? Or that they are the friends of the very people? There are so many references possible with that anecdote, but I can't make sense of any of them. Help me out here.
You noticed too, eh?
Arguendo
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Rafe Zetter
Banned
About time.
These "virtual muggings" are exactly the reason why C & P is being altered.
You want a payout for killing innocents, yet have no empathy for killing players who are just minding thier own business and lose credits for your "fun".
Sounds like this teen is a step away from a clocktower.
Also grammar, spelling and punctuation. Maybe spend less time killing innocents and believing you should be rewarded for it, and work on your written word skills.
You noticed too, eh?
Yep, I thought San Tu would be full of raggedy-asp rapscallions and hi-jinking cheeky pranksters.
Now I think going there would be like being backstage on RuPaul's Drag Race.
Rafe Zetter
Banned
RP Piracy with intent to steal cargo is fine - you've got PLENTY OF SUPPORT FOR PIRACY: blackmarkets, hatchbreaker limpets, and even entire systems to hide out in - I guess you missed those right? Or are you trying to claim that "murder without profit = piracy" because not even pilots who RP piracy will back that up.
These changes are trying to address the whole:
"I have no interest in any cargo you are carrying, I have no interest in "parlay" with you - the ONLY interaction I want to have with you is my shooting, and you blowing up - I'd even quite like it if you just cut engines and sat there while I do it, so I don't have to waste any more time than necessary on your sorry existence, and I can move onto my next victim."
"PS I also have no interest in any actual consentual PvP because that will probably mean the other guy has a PvP build of some kind, or he's a good pilot and thinks he still has a chance to kill me - I'm not interested in "fair", I just want to kill defenceless commanders and see my pretty 'splosions,"
"PPS - I think I should get paid for it."
OP I'm glad someone finally had the guts to come out and admit it.
Edit: another stone onto the heap of "FDev can you change the forum avatars so peoples ingame commander names are visible" - I think that would have a greater effect on keeping commanders from being DBag's ingame - because no right minded person would make a post like the OP's when we can all see who he is ingame.
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Wow. Westerns really are the new black.
Now, are you saying that the traders that are being scanned and killed, killed vin's friend? Or your friend? Or that they are the friends of the very people? There are so many references possible with that anecdote, but I can't make sense of any of them. Help me out here.
You noticed too, eh?
What I'm saying is that Unforgiven is the best movie ever.
Not sure, at my side of town we are full of glee you find something that clicks with you within framework of the game. So no complains here.
Rafe Zetter
Banned
You go right ahead HP - I never thought I'd say that, ever - but carry on bud.
PS - the shades help... a LOT, now you just look like an ageing rocker.
You know, up until this point I've generally found myself in agreement with you. But everyone knows that Blade Runner (the original, of course) is the best movie ever.
Arguendo
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Haha! That's why I didn't get the point. It was completely off topic! Damn, you had me stumped for minutes
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They did something wrong somewhere! Otherwise they wouldn't be flying around with a bounty on their head.
And a CMDR who doesn't head off to clean their bounties is either proud of their criminal status, or thinks that they are above the law. That's why bad men and women like me have been hired to go collect
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This reads like the equivalent of going up to someone on the street and punching them until they fight back or are rendered unconscious. The fact that the C&P system has been implemented suggests to me that some majority of players don't really see ED as galaxy wide deathmatch and aren't especially happy about some people flying about killing everyone else with impunity. That means you're in the minority here which is going to suck because it won't seem fair but that's just how it is. If you're going to stray outside the mechanics and kill people without bounties you're going to get bounties yourself and shouldn't expect to be rewarded. That's how it works because that's what most people seem to want.
Haha! That's why I didn't get the point. It was completely off topic! Damn, you had me stumped for minutes
Ok, so what I meant is somewhere a little closer to what Vin is saying below; these CMDR's are lawbreakers, some of them chronically so, and it's up to law abiding bounty hunters to bring them to justice. It's a well known fact that habitual parking violations & stop sign running are "gateway unlawful acts" that lead to progressively worse behavior if not nipped in the bud. If we don't stop these guys here in their criminal infancy, the next step for many of them will be to "accidentally" fire on unscanned NPC's or local security forces, and after that, well, I'm pretty sure I don't have to draw you a picture. It's pretty dark.
They did something wrong somewhere! Otherwise they wouldn't be flying around with a bounty on their head.
And a CMDR who doesn't head off to clean their bounties is either proud of their criminal status, or thinks that they are above the law. That's why bad men and women like me have been hired to go collect
You know, up until this point I've generally found myself in agreement with you. But everyone knows that Blade Runner (the original, of course) is the best movie ever.
Being a big fan of lovely, naked 50 foot tall women, I'm going to have to give the nod to Bladerunner 2049 for best in the franchise
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