The 8A Fuel Scoop Experience

Durden T.

Durden T.
Hooplah said:
Greetings,

Why would anyone purchase an 8A Fuel Scoop at 289 million credits when there are so many other very useful modules including the 8E 264 cargo rack at 3.8 million for my Imperial Cutter? Well I did! Why?

Being mostly a Trader I finally decided to get somewhat serious engineering my Cutter weapons. First up just for fun let's go with two of the 3D turret beams costing 19 million each, go with class 3 efficient and adding Thermal Shock and Thermal Conduit effects for PvE. Pro laser players may laugh at my decision but never being really serious about combat it might just fill the bill.

Now I have to collects mats, trade with Material Traders in a few systems then fly to WARD for the Engineering. A lot of jumping around so let's drop a cargo hold and put in a 8A Fuel Scoop.

OMG it is so fast! A short hop and upon flying around from the arrival star to the station I get the 'fuel scoop completed' voice message not even trying to scoop. Two max 30LY jumps (engineered FSD) with a star one cannot refuel in between and it fills the Cutter's huge tanks in less than 10 seconds! I wish that I had this on my long range explorer Anaconda! If a player is going to take a Cutter to the center of the galaxy this could certainly cut down on the scooping time and hours to get there.

So in the bubble I smile while moving around to complete my beam turret upgrades. As one can buy/sell equipment with no loss in credits I'm only renting the thing! Too bad that we cannot design our own paint work as I'd probably put a U-Hall Fuel Scoop rental logo on the Cutter.

UPDATE: After Engineering 3 pips to WEP and I never lose a bar firing the 3D turret beams constantly or any heat generation. Probably per my class 5 charge enhanced distributor. That gives me other choices with ENG and SYS. We'll see in ED combat...

Regards

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Nice one fellow Cutter commander...

Yo got the same effect with that scoop than the one I got in my ASP X Explorer and Matt collectorbuild (40 LY) with the 6A scoop (by the way, the same scoop class I have in my PvP shield tank Cutter).

With the ASP X and the 6A, I get full fuel in no time, without even having to think about it...

Makes it so much easier to travel big distances...

As for the beam turrets, I don't know if they'll be affective, but my oversized bursts with oversized mods just melt the shield as if they were butter, and can keep then firing forever with 2 pips....
 
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Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
Scooping with an 8A is a sensual experience.

My fuel scoop brings all the boys to the yard,
And they're like,
It scoops faster than yours,
Damn right its better than yours,
I can refuel you,
But I have to charge

I know you want it,
The thing that makes me,
What the Asps go crazy for.
They lose their minds,
The way I scoop,
I think its time

La la-la la la,
Warm it up.
Lala-lalala,
The Adders are waiting
 

tanman

tanman
meh, I rather have 68 light year jumps on my anaconda than to try flying the pig that is type 9 or rank grind for a cutter. besides, my tank has been downsized for jumprange and it takes no more than five seconds to fuel scoop.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
Rubbernuke said:
Scooping with an 8A is a sensual experience.

My fuel scoop brings all the boys to the yard,
And they're like,
It scoops faster than yours,
Damn right its better than yours,
I can refuel you,
But I have to charge

I know you want it,
The thing that makes me,
What the Asps go crazy for.
They lose their minds,
The way I scoop,
I think its time

La la-la la la,
Warm it up.
Lala-lalala,
The Adders are waiting
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I might be able to put music to this...Work on an iambic pentameter version.
 
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Hooplah

Hooplah
tanman said:
meh, I rather have 68 light year jumps on my anaconda than to try flying the pig that is type 9 or rank grind for a cutter. besides, my tank has been downsized for jumprange and it takes no more than five seconds to fuel scoop.
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Many fly an Anaconda to the boonies. Consider doing it in style with a Cutter!
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
Durden T. said:
Nice one fellow Cutter commander...

Yo got the same effect with that scoop than the one I got in my ASP X Explorer and Matt collectorbuild (40 LY) with the 6A scoop (by the way, the same scoop class I have in my PvP shield tank Cutter).

With the ASP X and the 6A, I get full fuel in no time, without even having to think about it...

Makes it so much easier to travel big distances...

As for the beam turrets, I don't know if they'll be affective, but my oversized bursts with oversized mods just melt the shield as if they were butter, and can keep then firing forever with 2 pips....
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I LOVE a good fuel scoop. For combat I'm a big fan of fixed PAs, rail guns and frag cannons. For a trading Cutter I just want the pirates to reconsider their options.
 

Crank Larson

Crank Larson
The 8A fuel scoop is why I'm considering turning my Cutter into an exploration vessel. It is awesome. :)

EDIT: Though with my AspX, due to the heat management, I can prime the FSD while still fuel scooping at full speed. I can't do that with the Cutter due to heat issues (I can't get away from the star before heat goes over 100%). So, I'll have to experiment a bit to see if the Cutter really will work.
 
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Dagwit

Dagwit
6A scoop on my long-haul cargo Cutter. It doesn't fill up as fast as I'd like but the cost in forgone cargo capacity for a bigger scoop is just too great.
 

Crank Larson

Crank Larson
Dagwit said:
6A scoop on my long-haul cargo Cutter. It doesn't fill up as fast as I'd like but the cost in forgone cargo capacity for a bigger scoop is just too great.
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I never use the 8A when cargo running, that would be silly. :) I only fit the scoop when I need to head off somewhere. When cargo running, I won't use a scoop at all. Mind you, I don't do long haul cargo - generally I can stick to runs that I can get to without needing to refuel.
 

Hooplah

Hooplah
Crank Larson said:
The 8A fuel scoop is why I'm considering turning my Cutter into an exploration vessel. It is awesome. :)

EDIT: Though with my AspX, due to the heat management, I can prime the FSD while still fuel scooping at full speed. I can't do that with the Cutter due to heat issues (I can't get away from the star before heat goes over 100%). So, I'll have to experiment a bit to see if the Cutter really will work.
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With an 8A fuel scoop in a Cutter there are no heat issues. Short hops the temp never gets above 60 percent. Two max system jumps and refueling it won't make 75 percent heat with a good pilot. Given the Cutter's excellent fuel tank it has totally nailed fuel scooping per long range exploration. As for other issues outfitting a Cutter to go into the boonies to each his own. Choose wisely.
 

777Driver

777Driver
Hooplah said:
With an 8A fuel scoop in a Cutter there are no heat issues. Short hops the temp never gets above 60 percent. Two max system jumps and refueling it won't make 75 percent heat with a good pilot. Given the Cutter's excellent fuel tank it has totally nailed fuel scooping per long range exploration. As for other issues outfitting a Cutter to go into the boonies to each his own. Choose wisely.
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I use an 8A on my deep space mining T9, also flew out to Colonia with a Cutter equipped with an 8A, tbh it is overkill. For long distance trucking I find 5A or 6A good enough, cutter and T9 both have 64 tonne tanks, can get to most places laden without stopping to refuel, the scoop is just for backup.

If I went back to Colonia I'd use the 7A. The insurance cost takes a massive hike when running an 8A
 
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Crank Larson

Crank Larson
Hooplah said:
With an 8A fuel scoop in a Cutter there are no heat issues. Short hops the temp never gets above 60 percent. Two max system jumps and refueling it won't make 75 percent heat with a good pilot. Given the Cutter's excellent fuel tank it has totally nailed fuel scooping per long range exploration. As for other issues outfitting a Cutter to go into the boonies to each his own. Choose wisely.
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I might buy another Cutter for an exploration build. My normal Cutter (used for trading and combat, and not heat efficient in the slightest) can't even scoop with a 6A without overheating. If I charge the FSD while in range of the star, I'm screwed. :)
 

Zenith

Zenith
The only reason for laying down that much for an 8A Fuel Scoop is extravagant luxury.
I prefer to use an 8C scoop on a Cutter because it has the suck rate of a 7A at a fraction of the price. I might upgrade that 8C to 8A on my DWE2 ship if/when I can justify the 245MCr.
 

Mars Starcruiser

Mars Starcruiser
On a side note, had the curious notion of partnering 8A scoop with class 8 fuel tank on lightweight engineered exploracutter. Can’t imagine the amount of jumps a cutter can go on 320 tons of fuel...omg! can still get 33.4lyr range with 926lyr before empty. Cutter doesn’t loose as much range with that tank as I expected.
 

GG7

G
The ships that I run long distance can't run an 8A, but I have several 7As installed across my fleet. I believe the Cutter is main big ship you can use that on? What other ships can run an 8A scoop that would actually benefit over a 7A?

I don't do enough long distance work with my Cutter beyond fuel tank range to justify radically cutting down on my storage capacity. (PowerPlay Hauler)

The other thing is Max Jump Range. My Cutter can hit 38.6Ly with a full tank, but loaded with 750t of cargo that is a different story. It is certainly not the ship I would choose for a run to Maia in either case. ;) So an 8A scoop kind of seems like a waste, when an Anaconda is so much better for long range travel with a 7A scoop.

In terms of the cost? Meh. I never even bother to look at how much anything costs when I make a shopping run to Shinrarta these days. :)

If you want it, and can afford it, then buy it.
 
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