The Python is annoyingly good for its price. Its the answer for every question in the mid-game.

Uh no. Python is a jack of all trades, master of none. If i'm doing combat, I want a combat ship. A python simply can't hang in PvP and in PvE there are scenarios that easily overwhelm it. For cargo, there's no reason to go to an outpost. Stations offer more amenities and better payout. 200 million to buy and A rate a ship that doesn't do anything well is over priced. I'd rather take that money buy a FDL and a Type 9 or and run circles around the python in cargo and combat. The jump range on the Python isn't good, so it's not a good bubble taxi or explorer. Frankly, it's 1 of only 3 ships I've ever sold that I would never buy again due to the fact I have at least 1 ship that outperforms it in every single function.

As for new palyers, if you want to run cargo and can't afford a type 9, get a type 7. It's quicker hauls as much cargo and is much much cheaper. Python gets so much hype, but it seems all the hype comes from players who have never flown other ships. They've only flown multirole ships, or they try to turn a non-multirole ship into a multirole ship and think the ship is flawed. As noted by your "The fdl can't haul cargo" comment. Combat ships aren't for hauling cargo.

I specifically said I was talking about players who are in the mid game and still trying to earn money and ranks.



If you don't have Big 3 money and are still trying to get to that level of financial success the Python is EASILY the best option because it does EVERYTHING (except maybe exploration. I can say since I don't explore)


Yes there are things that do ONE SINGLE THING BETTER than the Python but it does EVERYTHING WELL. Which was my entire point. Those ships will do that one job just fine, but can't do anything else. Meanwhile the Python can do that SAME JOB and do it just fine, BUT CAN STILL DO OTHER THINGS.



Which is what you need in the mid game. You need flexibility. Because most players at that point are still getting used to the game and its various nuances. It gives them the ability to try out a little bit of everything rather than just shoehorning themselves into a single thing.


Plus the Fer De Lance is not a mid-game ship. Its for someone who has experienced the game and has done combat and knows thats all they wanna do and know they don't want to be able to do ANYTHING ELSE because the FDL CAN'T do anything else unlike the Python which is in roughly the same price range and has a multitude of uses.



Let it be, they already nerfed it and honestly I think it needs a rebuff (That pitch rate, eugh). I respect anyone who PvPs in one because it's big and slow, with so few util-slots for something so big and slow.

It has a USP, medium pad, big cargo hauler. Let it be.. Don't kill it anymore.

I am not asking that it be nerfed?


I specifically stated that this thread was not a knock on the python.
 
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It's outclassed by the FDL in combat, outpriced in trading by the T-7, outjumped and outpriced by the ASP in exploration, outjumped for passenger missions by the Orca. It's a great ship and all, but calling it OP is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.
 
The Python is a good ship, but its not as great when you compare it to other ships near its price point. 50Mil is a lot of money for a ship that's OK at everything.

Shipping: Type-7 carries just as much for 30mil less.
Combat: FDL is one of the best in the game for the same price. Fed ships offer similar performance for much less.
Passenger: Orca is faster to escape combat, Beluga is bigger, carries more, and has an SLF.
Pirate/Crime: Clipper is faster and cheaper.
Exploration: Lot of ships are less expensive and offer similar or better jump range.

The Python can do everything, but its not OP at all when specialized ships cost less than half the price. The only real reason to use the Python is if you ship a lot to medium pads or want a solid multi-purpose ship. Otherwise, there are better options in every category.
 
The Python is the BGS runners dream ship. Running missions is easiest to do with it because it can land at medium platforms...

As a trader it also beats the T7, because IIRC the T7 is limited to large pads....

It's not bad as a fighter but the Chieftain now fill that role best at the medium size.
 
Let me be clear. By mid-game I am talking about players who are in between the lowers ships like Cobra, T-7, T-6, Clipper etc etc and the Big 3. They have more than enough for cheaper ships, but not enough for any of the Big 3.



So I am not so much saying that there are no ships that are as good as the Python in specific roles. I even said in the OP there are certain exceptions and ships that are better than the Python in certain roles.



I am saying that for a player who is in between the low level ships and the Big 3 there is no better option than the Python when it comes to doing pretty much everything.
 
Except the thread title specifically calls out the ship being "annoyingly" Over Powered. Click bait, or?

I said at the end of the OP


This is not a knock on the Python itself. Its a fantastic ship that is a godsend for players that don't have the money or ranks for any of the Big 3, but it is definitely a knock on all of the other ships.



Meaning I do not have any issue with the python itself. Its more directed at the other ships in the game that are either only a bit better or the same as the Python in their various roles. Meanwhile for a bit more you could have the Python which will do a bit less or maybe even a bit more for just a increase in cost while also being able to do ALOT MORE in other roles than those ships.


I am saying that I feel like dedicated ships like the T-7 or the Orca shouldn't just be as good as or a bit better than the Python in their roles, but should be MUCH BETTER than the Python in their respective roles. So that there isn't even a discussion or a debate. Right now the Python is close enough to them that there is room for debate and I feel like that shouldn't be the case.


So I am actually arguing for a buff of the other ships. Not a nerf of the Python.
 
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You're calling the python OP in the title, but you don't want it nerfed?
Lol, ok. Must be April 1st.

Is it OP when compared to other ships of a similar size and price range? Yes.


Do I want it nerfed? No.



Do I want the other ships in the game adjusted so they can better compete with the Python so its not as strong in comparison? Yes.



I even explain why in the OP. I am not sure what is so confusing to you people. Its perfectly possible that you can think something is super strong without actually wanting it nerfed.
 
The only thing OP with the Python is its Mass Lock Factor (MLF or :p). In no reality should anything "mass lock" another thing which is heavier than itself. Edit: IMO
 
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OP, as with most of the other posters, I totally don't agree.

Thats fine. Everybody is entitled to their opinions. I am certainly not standing on a stage demanding people agree with me. I just wanted to get how I felt out there. I don't actually care whether people agree with me or not on this particular subject.
 
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Is it OP when compared to other ships of a similar size and price range? Yes.


Do I want it nerfed? No.



Do I want the other ships in the game adjusted so they can better compete with the Python so its not as strong in comparison? Yes.



I even explain why in the OP. I am not sure what is so confusing to you people. Its perfectly possible that you can think something is super strong without actually wanting it nerfed.

Not only is the python OP, you find it "annoyingly OP".
It seems to be causing you actual emotional distress.
If something was causing me emotional distress I would probably want it nerfed also.
 

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I agree. Its existence means that many new Commanders are seduced by her large... Cargo racks.

They're missing out on the younger, hotter and much faster Cobra Mk III, which also has a great rack.
 
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